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Mepag Chair Report, A glimpse at future plans |
Nov 30 2005, 04:35 AM
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The Chair's report from the November meeting of the Mars Exploration Program Analysis Group is now online at http://mepag.jpl.nasa.gov/meeting/nov-05/index.html.
Here are some features on their draft exploration plan after MSL in 2009. 2011/2013 Scout and Mars Science Orbiter with telecommunications capability 2016 Mid-rovers or Astrobiology Field Laboratory 2018 Scout 2020 Planetary Evolution and Meteorology Network 2022 MSR Orbiter with Telecom 2024 Mobile MSR I'm not sure how fixed this is, or how much it dovetails with NASA HQ's plans, (pretty close, I'd guess) but it gives us something to chew on until Bruce's Astronomy article comes out. Note that the 2011 window is now shared with a new orbiter with "telecom capability" This sounds like the return of MTO, with science instruments added. Any ideas what instruments are at the top of the wish list for such an orbiter? If it launched in 2011, it could still play a big part in the MSL mission and be ready for the next rover in 2016. Remember by 2011 MRO will be six years old. The Astrobio lab is an MSL scale rover, while the "Mid-rover" is intermediate between MER and MSL. Mars Sample Return has been pushed out to 2022/24. This seems a pessimistic "who knows?" timeframe to me. A manned mission could be on the way by 2030, if the Vision for Space Exploration pans out. (A BIG "if", I know.) Sample return will have to be completed before humans go, I would imagine. |
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Dec 28 2005, 11:53 AM
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No, they don't, Bruce -- it just seems longer.
-the other Doug -------------------- The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right. -Mark Twain
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Redstone Mepag Chair Report Nov 30 2005, 04:35 AM
MahFL From the Nov 21 2005 MEPAG Chair's Report...
... Nov 30 2005, 01:20 PM
BruceMoomaw Aw. You gave away the ending...
OK, let me squea... Dec 1 2005, 05:12 AM
mars loon QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Dec 1 2005, 05:12 AM)Aw.... Dec 3 2005, 03:26 PM
BruceMoomaw They haven't got the money for that -- the pre... Dec 3 2005, 11:45 PM
gndonald QUOTE (Redstone @ Nov 30 2005, 12:35 PM) 202... Dec 23 2005, 01:50 PM
BruceMoomaw That's exactly what it is -- in fact, MEPAG... Dec 23 2005, 09:11 PM
JRehling QUOTE (Redstone @ Nov 29 2005, 08:35 PM)[...]... Dec 24 2005, 01:07 AM
nprev I wonder if some of the recent MSR recalcitrance i... Dec 24 2005, 01:38 AM
nprev ...plus, there's the whole planetary back-cont... Dec 24 2005, 01:44 AM
mike We've been hit by Martian debris for billions ... Dec 24 2005, 07:48 AM
nprev QUOTE (mike @ Dec 24 2005, 12:48 AM)We've... Dec 24 2005, 10:25 AM
BruceMoomaw Not according to Benton Clark, who took a thorough... Dec 24 2005, 08:22 AM
mike QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Dec 24 2005, 12:22 AM)If... Dec 24 2005, 09:15 PM

JRehling QUOTE (mike @ Dec 24 2005, 01:15 PM)So we get... Dec 25 2005, 04:44 PM
tty QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Dec 24 2005, 10:22 AM)No... Dec 25 2005, 04:30 PM
edstrick Jrehling: "Has anyone ever waited for a new v... Dec 24 2005, 01:14 PM
lyford I almost hate to say it, but I am happy to wait. ... Dec 24 2005, 05:54 PM
ermar QUOTE (lyford @ Dec 24 2005, 05:54 PM)And as ... Dec 24 2005, 07:36 PM
tty QUOTE (lyford @ Dec 24 2005, 07:54 PM)And as ... Dec 25 2005, 04:16 PM
BruceMoomaw I'm sure the victims of the Spanish flu would ... Dec 24 2005, 09:49 PM
mike We're all going to kill ourselves anyway, Bruc... Dec 24 2005, 11:20 PM
dvandorn Two comments:
Emily -- you're spot-on! O... Dec 25 2005, 07:30 PM
nprev Good points, otherDoug (may I call you that?)
... Dec 25 2005, 10:11 PM
ljk4-1 Wouldn't the biochemistry of a truly alien lif... Dec 25 2005, 11:09 PM
JRehling QUOTE (ljk4-1 @ Dec 25 2005, 03:09 PM)Wo... Dec 26 2005, 11:05 PM
nprev QUOTE (JRehling @ Dec 26 2005, 04:05 PM)That... Dec 26 2005, 11:48 PM
ljk4-1 QUOTE (nprev @ Dec 26 2005, 06:48 PM)That... Jan 3 2006, 02:57 AM
nprev QUOTE (ljk4-1 @ Jan 2 2006, 07:57 PM)Did... Jan 3 2006, 05:52 AM
BruceMoomaw "We're all going to kill ourselves anyway... Dec 25 2005, 11:43 PM
nprev QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Dec 25 2005, 04:43 PM)Be... Dec 26 2005, 10:21 AM
tty QUOTE (nprev @ Dec 26 2005, 12:21 PM)I cringe... Dec 28 2005, 07:19 PM
BruceMoomaw To TTY: it depends on your definition of "rea... Dec 25 2005, 11:46 PM
ljk4-1 QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Dec 25 2005, 06:46 PM)To... Dec 26 2005, 06:41 AM
BruceMoomaw Hardly an adequate argument for letting plagues ge... Dec 26 2005, 09:26 AM
ljk4-1 QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Dec 26 2005, 04:26 AM)Ha... Dec 26 2005, 06:06 PM
ljk4-1 QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Dec 26 2005, 04:26 AM)Ha... Jan 3 2006, 03:18 PM
mike Some people are optimists and some people are pess... Dec 27 2005, 05:15 PM
BruceMoomaw Yep, and the pessimists usually live longer. Dec 27 2005, 10:29 PM
BruceMoomaw Personally, given Cruise's behavior last year,... Jan 3 2006, 07:40 PM
ljk4-1 QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Jan 3 2006, 02:40 PM)Per... Jan 3 2006, 07:43 PM
nprev QUOTE (ljk4-1 @ Jan 3 2006, 12:43 PM)It ... Jan 3 2006, 08:55 PM
ljk4-1 QUOTE (nprev @ Jan 3 2006, 03:55 PM)Purely ac... Jan 3 2006, 09:16 PM

nprev QUOTE (ljk4-1 @ Jan 3 2006, 02:16 PM)I d... Jan 3 2006, 11:51 PM
Bob Shaw QUOTE (nprev @ Jan 3 2006, 09:55 PM)Probably ... Jan 3 2006, 09:32 PM
BruceMoomaw Damon Knight got so fed up by the late and loony J... Jan 4 2006, 03:10 AM
ljk4-1 QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Jan 3 2006, 10:10 PM)Per... Jan 4 2006, 03:34 AM
BruceMoomaw Of course, there's also Poul Anderson's 19... Jan 4 2006, 03:17 AM
nprev Kind of like this topic we've drifted into....... Jan 4 2006, 04:41 AM
BruceMoomaw The trouble with "Nprev's theory" --... Jan 4 2006, 05:33 AM
David QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Jan 4 2006, 05:33 AM)The... Jan 4 2006, 06:19 AM
ljk4-1 QUOTE (David @ Jan 4 2006, 01:19 AM)Let me se... Jan 4 2006, 02:51 PM
Stephen QUOTE (ljk4-1 @ Jan 4 2006, 02:51 PM)The... Jan 5 2006, 01:34 AM
David QUOTE (Stephen @ Jan 5 2006, 01:34 AM)How are... Jan 5 2006, 02:19 AM
nprev FYI, I got the 400 billion from the last upward re... Jan 4 2006, 08:19 AM
Ames QUOTE (nprev @ Jan 4 2006, 09:19 AM)But, the ... Jan 4 2006, 01:07 PM
nprev QUOTE (Ames @ Jan 4 2006, 06:07 AM)But the se... Jan 4 2006, 08:11 PM
David QUOTE (nprev @ Jan 4 2006, 08:11 PM)Absolutel... Jan 4 2006, 08:26 PM
Ames Ok, I don't say we are close to achieving eith... Jan 4 2006, 09:03 PM
nprev Of course; implicit in all this is the need to dev... Jan 4 2006, 09:04 PM
BruceMoomaw QUOTE (nprev @ Jan 4 2006, 08:19 AM)Bruce, I ... Jan 4 2006, 10:10 PM
nprev QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Jan 4 2006, 03:10 PM)... Jan 4 2006, 11:01 PM
ljk4-1 QUOTE (nprev @ Jan 4 2006, 06:01 PM)"It ... Jan 4 2006, 11:04 PM

nprev QUOTE (ljk4-1 @ Jan 4 2006, 04:04 PM)Sci... Jan 4 2006, 11:23 PM

David QUOTE (ljk4-1 @ Jan 4 2006, 11:04 PM)Ame... Jan 5 2006, 12:21 AM


dvandorn QUOTE (David @ Jan 4 2006, 06:21 PM)...... Jan 5 2006, 02:42 AM


Bob Shaw QUOTE (dvandorn @ Jan 5 2006, 03:42 AM)So, th... Jan 5 2006, 01:24 PM

tty QUOTE (ljk4-1 @ Jan 5 2006, 01:04 AM)Sci... Jan 5 2006, 07:32 AM
Bob Shaw There have been studies which suggest that for hum... Jan 4 2006, 11:10 PM

ljk4-1 QUOTE (Bob Shaw @ Jan 4 2006, 06:10 PM)There ... Jan 4 2006, 11:27 PM

Bob Shaw QUOTE (ljk4-1 @ Jan 5 2006, 12:27 AM)Oh,... Jan 4 2006, 11:45 PM

lyford QUOTE (Bob Shaw @ Jan 4 2006, 03:45 PM)'O... Jan 5 2006, 12:03 AM

dvandorn QUOTE (lyford @ Jan 4 2006, 06:03 PM)Or ... Jan 5 2006, 02:40 AM
Stephen QUOTE (nprev @ Jan 4 2006, 11:01 PM)"It ... Jan 5 2006, 07:16 AM
nprev QUOTE (Stephen @ Jan 5 2006, 12:16 AM)Um, whe... Jan 5 2006, 08:00 AM
Stephen QUOTE (nprev @ Jan 5 2006, 08:00 AM)I did mea... Jan 5 2006, 09:43 AM
ljk4-1 QUOTE (nprev @ Jan 5 2006, 03:00 AM)Maybe som... Jan 5 2006, 02:58 PM
ljk4-1 Science/Astronomy:
* Half a Dozen Stars Born in M... Jan 5 2006, 09:46 PM
nprev QUOTE (ljk4-1 @ Jan 5 2006, 07:58 AM)Hav... Jan 5 2006, 11:23 PM
BruceMoomaw QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Jan 4 2006, 05:33 AM)The... Jan 6 2006, 04:39 AM
nprev Hmm...seems like this idea, like all great ones...... Jan 6 2006, 05:26 AM
dvandorn Hmmm... species survival...
Yes, there is a bette... Jan 6 2006, 11:38 AM
nprev QUOTE (dvandorn @ Jan 6 2006, 04:38 AM)Hmmm..... Jan 6 2006, 11:49 PM
ljk4-1 The Doomsday Vault
The future of humanity could l... Jan 12 2006, 08:52 PM
ljk4-1 Science Analysis of the November 3, 2005 Version o... Jan 16 2006, 04:57 PM
BruceMoomaw That report actually raises all sorts of interesti... Jan 23 2006, 08:44 AM
BruceMoomaw In the "MSL landing site" thread, I prom... Jan 24 2006, 10:22 PM
AlexBlackwell MEPAG's Mars Scientific Goals, Objectives, Inv... Feb 15 2006, 01:29 AM![]() ![]() |
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