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Mepag Chair Report, A glimpse at future plans
Redstone
post Nov 30 2005, 04:35 AM
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The Chair's report from the November meeting of the Mars Exploration Program Analysis Group is now online at http://mepag.jpl.nasa.gov/meeting/nov-05/index.html.

Here are some features on their draft exploration plan after MSL in 2009.

• 2011/2013 Scout and Mars Science Orbiter with telecommunications capability
• 2016 Mid-rovers or Astrobiology Field Laboratory
• 2018 Scout
• 2020 Planetary Evolution and Meteorology Network
• 2022 MSR Orbiter with Telecom
• 2024 Mobile MSR

I'm not sure how fixed this is, or how much it dovetails with NASA HQ's plans, (pretty close, I'd guess) but it gives us something to chew on until Bruce's Astronomy article comes out. smile.gif

Note that the 2011 window is now shared with a new orbiter with "telecom capability" This sounds like the return of MTO, with science instruments added. Any ideas what instruments are at the top of the wish list for such an orbiter? If it launched in 2011, it could still play a big part in the MSL mission and be ready for the next rover in 2016. Remember by 2011 MRO will be six years old.

The Astrobio lab is an MSL scale rover, while the "Mid-rover" is intermediate between MER and MSL.

Mars Sample Return has been pushed out to 2022/24. This seems a pessimistic "who knows?" timeframe to me. A manned mission could be on the way by 2030, if the Vision for Space Exploration pans out. (A BIG "if", I know.) Sample return will have to be completed before humans go, I would imagine.
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- Redstone   Mepag Chair Report   Nov 30 2005, 04:35 AM
- - MahFL   From the Nov 21 2005 MEPAG Chair's Report... ...   Nov 30 2005, 01:20 PM
- - BruceMoomaw   Aw. You gave away the ending... OK, let me squea...   Dec 1 2005, 05:12 AM
|- - mars loon   QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Dec 1 2005, 05:12 AM)Aw....   Dec 3 2005, 03:26 PM
- - BruceMoomaw   They haven't got the money for that -- the pre...   Dec 3 2005, 11:45 PM
- - gndonald   QUOTE (Redstone @ Nov 30 2005, 12:35 PM)• 202...   Dec 23 2005, 01:50 PM
- - BruceMoomaw   That's exactly what it is -- in fact, MEPAG...   Dec 23 2005, 09:11 PM
- - JRehling   QUOTE (Redstone @ Nov 29 2005, 08:35 PM)[...]...   Dec 24 2005, 01:07 AM
|- - nprev   I wonder if some of the recent MSR recalcitrance i...   Dec 24 2005, 01:38 AM
|- - nprev   ...plus, there's the whole planetary back-cont...   Dec 24 2005, 01:44 AM
- - mike   We've been hit by Martian debris for billions ...   Dec 24 2005, 07:48 AM
|- - nprev   QUOTE (mike @ Dec 24 2005, 12:48 AM)We've...   Dec 24 2005, 10:25 AM
- - BruceMoomaw   Not according to Benton Clark, who took a thorough...   Dec 24 2005, 08:22 AM
|- - mike   QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Dec 24 2005, 12:22 AM)If...   Dec 24 2005, 09:15 PM
||- - JRehling   QUOTE (mike @ Dec 24 2005, 01:15 PM)So we get...   Dec 25 2005, 04:44 PM
|- - tty   QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Dec 24 2005, 10:22 AM)No...   Dec 25 2005, 04:30 PM
- - edstrick   Jrehling: "Has anyone ever waited for a new v...   Dec 24 2005, 01:14 PM
- - lyford   I almost hate to say it, but I am happy to wait. ...   Dec 24 2005, 05:54 PM
|- - ermar   QUOTE (lyford @ Dec 24 2005, 05:54 PM)And as ...   Dec 24 2005, 07:36 PM
|- - tty   QUOTE (lyford @ Dec 24 2005, 07:54 PM)And as ...   Dec 25 2005, 04:16 PM
- - BruceMoomaw   I'm sure the victims of the Spanish flu would ...   Dec 24 2005, 09:49 PM
- - mike   We're all going to kill ourselves anyway, Bruc...   Dec 24 2005, 11:20 PM
- - dvandorn   Two comments: Emily -- you're spot-on! O...   Dec 25 2005, 07:30 PM
|- - nprev   Good points, otherDoug (may I call you that?) ...   Dec 25 2005, 10:11 PM
|- - ljk4-1   Wouldn't the biochemistry of a truly alien lif...   Dec 25 2005, 11:09 PM
|- - JRehling   QUOTE (ljk4-1 @ Dec 25 2005, 03:09 PM)Wo...   Dec 26 2005, 11:05 PM
|- - nprev   QUOTE (JRehling @ Dec 26 2005, 04:05 PM)That...   Dec 26 2005, 11:48 PM
|- - ljk4-1   QUOTE (nprev @ Dec 26 2005, 06:48 PM)That...   Jan 3 2006, 02:57 AM
|- - nprev   QUOTE (ljk4-1 @ Jan 2 2006, 07:57 PM)Did...   Jan 3 2006, 05:52 AM
- - BruceMoomaw   "We're all going to kill ourselves anyway...   Dec 25 2005, 11:43 PM
|- - nprev   QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Dec 25 2005, 04:43 PM)Be...   Dec 26 2005, 10:21 AM
|- - tty   QUOTE (nprev @ Dec 26 2005, 12:21 PM)I cringe...   Dec 28 2005, 07:19 PM
- - BruceMoomaw   To TTY: it depends on your definition of "rea...   Dec 25 2005, 11:46 PM
|- - ljk4-1   QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Dec 25 2005, 06:46 PM)To...   Dec 26 2005, 06:41 AM
- - BruceMoomaw   Hardly an adequate argument for letting plagues ge...   Dec 26 2005, 09:26 AM
|- - ljk4-1   QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Dec 26 2005, 04:26 AM)Ha...   Dec 26 2005, 06:06 PM
|- - ljk4-1   QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Dec 26 2005, 04:26 AM)Ha...   Jan 3 2006, 03:18 PM
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- - BruceMoomaw   Yep, and the pessimists usually live longer.   Dec 27 2005, 10:29 PM
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- - BruceMoomaw   Personally, given Cruise's behavior last year,...   Jan 3 2006, 07:40 PM
|- - ljk4-1   QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Jan 3 2006, 02:40 PM)Per...   Jan 3 2006, 07:43 PM
|- - nprev   QUOTE (ljk4-1 @ Jan 3 2006, 12:43 PM)It ...   Jan 3 2006, 08:55 PM
|- - ljk4-1   QUOTE (nprev @ Jan 3 2006, 03:55 PM)Purely ac...   Jan 3 2006, 09:16 PM
||- - nprev   QUOTE (ljk4-1 @ Jan 3 2006, 02:16 PM)I d...   Jan 3 2006, 11:51 PM
|- - Bob Shaw   QUOTE (nprev @ Jan 3 2006, 09:55 PM)Probably ...   Jan 3 2006, 09:32 PM
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- - nprev   Kind of like this topic we've drifted into.......   Jan 4 2006, 04:41 AM
- - BruceMoomaw   The trouble with "Nprev's theory" --...   Jan 4 2006, 05:33 AM
|- - David   QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Jan 4 2006, 05:33 AM)The...   Jan 4 2006, 06:19 AM
|- - ljk4-1   QUOTE (David @ Jan 4 2006, 01:19 AM)Let me se...   Jan 4 2006, 02:51 PM
|- - Stephen   QUOTE (ljk4-1 @ Jan 4 2006, 02:51 PM)The...   Jan 5 2006, 01:34 AM
|- - David   QUOTE (Stephen @ Jan 5 2006, 01:34 AM)How are...   Jan 5 2006, 02:19 AM
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|- - Ames   QUOTE (nprev @ Jan 4 2006, 09:19 AM)But, the ...   Jan 4 2006, 01:07 PM
|- - nprev   QUOTE (Ames @ Jan 4 2006, 06:07 AM)But the se...   Jan 4 2006, 08:11 PM
|- - David   QUOTE (nprev @ Jan 4 2006, 08:11 PM)Absolutel...   Jan 4 2006, 08:26 PM
|- - Ames   Ok, I don't say we are close to achieving eith...   Jan 4 2006, 09:03 PM
|- - nprev   Of course; implicit in all this is the need to dev...   Jan 4 2006, 09:04 PM
- - BruceMoomaw   QUOTE (nprev @ Jan 4 2006, 08:19 AM)Bruce, I ...   Jan 4 2006, 10:10 PM
|- - nprev   QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Jan 4 2006, 03:10 PM)...   Jan 4 2006, 11:01 PM
|- - ljk4-1   QUOTE (nprev @ Jan 4 2006, 06:01 PM)"It ...   Jan 4 2006, 11:04 PM
||- - nprev   QUOTE (ljk4-1 @ Jan 4 2006, 04:04 PM)Sci...   Jan 4 2006, 11:23 PM
||- - David   QUOTE (ljk4-1 @ Jan 4 2006, 11:04 PM)Ame...   Jan 5 2006, 12:21 AM
|||- - dvandorn   QUOTE (David @ Jan 4 2006, 06:21 PM)......   Jan 5 2006, 02:42 AM
|||- - Bob Shaw   QUOTE (dvandorn @ Jan 5 2006, 03:42 AM)So, th...   Jan 5 2006, 01:24 PM
||- - tty   QUOTE (ljk4-1 @ Jan 5 2006, 01:04 AM)Sci...   Jan 5 2006, 07:32 AM
|- - Bob Shaw   There have been studies which suggest that for hum...   Jan 4 2006, 11:10 PM
||- - ljk4-1   QUOTE (Bob Shaw @ Jan 4 2006, 06:10 PM)There ...   Jan 4 2006, 11:27 PM
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||- - lyford   QUOTE (Bob Shaw @ Jan 4 2006, 03:45 PM)'O...   Jan 5 2006, 12:03 AM
||- - dvandorn   QUOTE (lyford @ Jan 4 2006, 06:03 PM)Or ...   Jan 5 2006, 02:40 AM
|- - Stephen   QUOTE (nprev @ Jan 4 2006, 11:01 PM)"It ...   Jan 5 2006, 07:16 AM
|- - nprev   QUOTE (Stephen @ Jan 5 2006, 12:16 AM)Um, whe...   Jan 5 2006, 08:00 AM
|- - Stephen   QUOTE (nprev @ Jan 5 2006, 08:00 AM)I did mea...   Jan 5 2006, 09:43 AM
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|- - nprev   QUOTE (ljk4-1 @ Jan 5 2006, 07:58 AM)Hav...   Jan 5 2006, 11:23 PM
- - BruceMoomaw   QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Jan 4 2006, 05:33 AM)The...   Jan 6 2006, 04:39 AM
|- - nprev   Hmm...seems like this idea, like all great ones......   Jan 6 2006, 05:26 AM
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|- - nprev   QUOTE (dvandorn @ Jan 6 2006, 04:38 AM)Hmmm.....   Jan 6 2006, 11:49 PM
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- - BruceMoomaw   In the "MSL landing site" thread, I prom...   Jan 24 2006, 10:22 PM
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