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post Dec 1 2005, 02:52 PM
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Voyager - A message from Earth

Saturday 19 November 2005

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Jon Lomberg is an artist who could be called portrait painter to the cosmos. He illustrated most of Carl Sagan's books and articles and his paintings and multi-media presentations of astronomy have made him well known around the world. He's talking about the message he designed which was sent on Voyager II from the people of Earth to whoever might hear it in space.

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http://www.abc.net.au/rn/science/ss/stories/s1505986.htm


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"After having some business dealings with men, I am occasionally chagrined,
and feel as if I had done some wrong, and it is hard to forget the ugly circumstance.
I see that such intercourse long continued would make one thoroughly prosaic, hard,
and coarse. But the longest intercourse with Nature, though in her rudest moods, does
not thus harden and make coarse. A hard, sensible man whom we liken to a rock is
indeed much harder than a rock. From hard, coarse, insensible men with whom I have
no sympathy, I go to commune with the rocks, whose hearts are comparatively soft."

- Henry David Thoreau, November 15, 1853

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post Jan 24 2006, 05:43 PM
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Well I prefer the Pioneer plaque ... Seeing the Voyager plaque I really needed some extra explanation about the signs on it, which are mostly directives how to play the 'record' ...
Superb initiative though by the late Dr Carl Sagan !
Talking about this, it remains 'strange' why the New Horizons didn't bare such a message, all beit some small electronic one ( simular to the names of Earthlings it carries ) ph34r.gif
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post Jan 26 2006, 05:12 AM
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Another good reason to have plaques and records on our space probes...
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"After having some business dealings with men, I am occasionally chagrined,
and feel as if I had done some wrong, and it is hard to forget the ugly circumstance.
I see that such intercourse long continued would make one thoroughly prosaic, hard,
and coarse. But the longest intercourse with Nature, though in her rudest moods, does
not thus harden and make coarse. A hard, sensible man whom we liken to a rock is
indeed much harder than a rock. From hard, coarse, insensible men with whom I have
no sympathy, I go to commune with the rocks, whose hearts are comparatively soft."

- Henry David Thoreau, November 15, 1853

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post Jan 27 2006, 01:42 AM
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QUOTE (ljk4-1 @ Jan 26 2006, 12:12 AM)
Another good reason to have plaques and records on our space probes...
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So I guess future spacecraft, in addition to a message of peace, should also include an apology.smile.gif

Some options for what happens with our spacecraft, in order of probability:
1) Never found, either drifting in the emptiness of space, or destroyed by various phenomena, such as stars.

2) Found by a race so advanced that they immediately recognize the nature of the spacecraft and are able to hand it over to a computer that can analyze and decipher it in a few minutes.

3) A chunk of it, most likely the RTG, survives entry through a planet's atmosphere. Primitive lifeforms, similar to homo erectus or Neanderthals in intelligence, find the object after seeing a ray of light from the sky fall to the ground. Perhaps the record even survives in the wake of the disintegrating high gain antenna. They become religious artifacts, and one or all of the symbols are determined to be holy, like the cross in Christianity. After many religious wars over which is the true holy object, the shiny record or the vaned RTG, they finally find Earth and obliterrate us all for causing so much death in their world. smile.gif

4) A race around our technological level finds it, and takes offense to the naked humans onboard, but they're never able to figure out any of the other symbols, only that the people from that place comprise a wholly obscene race. tongue.gif
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post Jan 27 2006, 09:57 AM
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QUOTE (Jeff7 @ Jan 27 2006, 01:42 AM)
4) A race around our technological level finds it, and takes offense to the naked humans onboard, but they're never able to figure out any of the other symbols, only that the people from that place comprise a wholly obscene race. tongue.gif
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More confusing is the Pioneer Plaque. Any observant alien can see that the probe was made by just two beings, each a separate species, working together. They might call them Shorts and Talls. Tall has what looks like a third manipulative organ, compared to Short. These species have some form of carapace on top of their sensory appendages (presumably to deflect harsh radiation from their home star), they breathe hydrogen, navigate on their world using pulsars, and use their solar system's largest planet to eject 70's-era space junk into the cosmos.

The aliens will find us, if only to discover what we look like from the back...

Andy G
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post Jan 27 2006, 03:31 PM
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5). A civilization of intelligent machines finds the probe, outfits it with a massive intelligence and sends it back where it arrives back to Earth in the 24th Century to ask the question "Why?". It is alternatively known as V'ger or P'neer depending on which probe is found. rolleyes.gif
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