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Nuking Europa, Nukes and other 'futuristic' ideas for exploring Europa |
 Dec 5 2005, 07:45 PM
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Hi all! In my opinion, Europa explorer must be cheap and simple.
It must consist of 5 parts - 2 orbiters, 3 small and robust landers, and 3 nuclear and termonuclear bombs. I think that 10 Kt - 100 kt - 1 Mgt sequence is optimal. First orbiter is robust, high protected from radioactivity, armed device. On high orbite over Europe With simple and primitive long focused camera, laser-radar. It must to spectacle and record all nuclear explosion parametres. has also a radio recever from landers. second orbiter is orbiting low over the Europe. It must to fly over epicenter of nuke and drop lander to measure and see all. To defend more complex second orbiter from radioactivity rays of nuclear explosion, we struck and explode a nuke in another side of Europe Why nukes? Because it reveal all. First one, we"ll have a great quake of Europe. And can record all seismic infomation without landers. next one. we can to melt ice and see a clear water - just hollow in the crust!!! at 3 rd. We dont need a special lander. If we can melt great hollow in crust - we'll have a liquid water to catch our lander! We dont need airbags, rockets. Just an robust "lander" like small susmarine!! 4 th. we ll have great cloud of water vapour and ice to take from there any chemical information. |
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Dec 5 2005, 08:12 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 350 Joined: 20-June 04 From: Portland, Oregon, U.S.A. Member No.: 86 |
Nuclear bombs are complicated. Just use a giant sawblade and cut Europa in half. Then every layer will be exposed indefinitely and everything can be analyzed quite easily. If you really want to, you can also put a giant torch on the probe and melt the moon back together.
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Dec 5 2005, 08:25 PM
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QUOTE (mike @ Dec 5 2005, 11:12 PM) Nuclear bombs are complicated. Just use a giant sawblade and cut Europa in half. Then every layer will be exposed indefinitely and everything can be analyzed quite easily. If you really want to, you can also put a giant torch on the probe and melt the moon back together.  have you read this? :-) http://ned.ucam.org/~sdh31/misc/destroy.html |
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Apr 7 2006, 06:09 PM
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QUOTE (SergeyVLazarev @ Dec 5 2005, 01:25 PM) I skimmed through it. Wow. Simply...wow. 
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SergeyVLazarev Nuking Europa Dec 5 2005, 07:45 PM
Decepticon Bada BOOM Bada BING ehh!? Dec 5 2005, 07:51 PM dvandorn I have to admit, my first reaction to using thermo... Dec 5 2005, 08:05 PM
SergeyVLazarev I know, that my proposition is sounds like provoca... Dec 5 2005, 08:19 PM helvick Sergey,
Dramatic idea but it is too complex and y... Dec 5 2005, 09:03 PM SergeyVLazarev QUOTE The current estimates I've seen range fr... Dec 5 2005, 09:24 PM helvick QUOTE (SergeyVLazarev @ Dec 5 2005, 10:24 PM)... Dec 5 2005, 09:59 PM SergeyVLazarev not just for for fun, :-) but it can to help in 3 ... Dec 5 2005, 08:06 PM JRehling QUOTE (SergeyVLazarev @ Dec 5 2005, 12:06 PM)... Dec 5 2005, 08:31 PM ljk4-1 Why use a nuclear bomb, which would literally neve... Dec 5 2005, 08:57 PM SergeyVLazarev QUOTE The crust is far too thick for a hydrogen bo... Dec 5 2005, 09:01 PM JRehling QUOTE (SergeyVLazarev @ Dec 5 2005, 01:01 PM)... Dec 5 2005, 10:37 PM SergeyVLazarev QUOTE Not really. Ice can crack but it's actua... Dec 6 2005, 09:31 AM ugordan QUOTE (SergeyVLazarev @ Dec 6 2005, 10:31 AM)... Dec 6 2005, 01:49 PM SergeyVLazarev QUOTE I don't know if by "some quake... Dec 6 2005, 09:52 AM helvick QUOTE (SergeyVLazarev @ Dec 6 2005, 10:52 AM)... Dec 6 2005, 11:03 AM Richard Trigaux SergeyVLazarev,
I like very much your enthusiasm ... Dec 6 2005, 11:02 AM Richard Trigaux This post was duplicated/replaced in its proper co... Dec 6 2005, 11:20 AM SergeyVLazarev QUOTE I like very much your enthusiasm about using... Dec 6 2005, 12:37 PM Richard Trigaux QUOTE (SergeyVLazarev @ Dec 6 2005, 12:37 PM)... Dec 6 2005, 01:24 PM SergeyVLazarev QUOTE BTW for the record. The Tsar Bomba was restr... Dec 6 2005, 02:13 PM ugordan QUOTE (SergeyVLazarev @ Dec 6 2005, 03:13 PM)... Dec 6 2005, 02:28 PM ljk4-1 While I would prefer not to see the human race spr... Dec 6 2005, 02:56 PM SergeyVLazarev QUOTE The 50 Mt Soviet "Tsar Bomba" was ... Dec 6 2005, 02:52 PM ugordan QUOTE (SergeyVLazarev @ Dec 6 2005, 03:52 PM)... Dec 6 2005, 04:07 PM SergeyVLazarev QUOTE 1. The polygon WAS there to be bombed the he... Dec 6 2005, 03:11 PM JRehling Incidentally, in the case we would ever want to se... Dec 6 2005, 04:43 PM ljk4-1 Nuke Europa? You aren't thinking grand enough... Dec 6 2005, 05:59 PM Bob Shaw We *mustn't* nuke Europa.
The big oblong guys... Dec 6 2005, 09:40 PM RNeuhaus IMHO, it is not necesarry to use nuke on Europe bu... Dec 6 2005, 10:56 PM ljk4-1 QUOTE (RNeuhaus @ Dec 6 2005, 05:56 PM)IMHO, ... Dec 7 2005, 01:11 PM RNeuhaus QUOTE (ljk4-1 @ Dec 7 2005, 08:11 AM)Whe... Dec 7 2005, 03:36 PM tedstryk QUOTE (RNeuhaus @ Dec 6 2005, 10:56 PM)IMHO, ... Dec 7 2005, 02:43 PM ugordan QUOTE (tedstryk @ Dec 7 2005, 03:43 PM)I am d... Dec 7 2005, 02:47 PM mike Face it, nuclear explosions look really neat. All... Dec 7 2005, 12:56 AM ElkGroveDan Well I'm having a hoot reading this thread. A... Dec 7 2005, 03:45 AM edstrick "Face it, nuclear explosions look really neat... Dec 7 2005, 09:03 AM gndonald QUOTE (edstrick @ Dec 7 2005, 05:03 PM)... Dec 27 2005, 03:59 PM Bill Harris QUOTE second orbiter is orbiting low over the Euro... Dec 7 2005, 09:38 AM RNeuhaus Sorry. Translate: Europe to Moon of Europe.
Ro... Dec 7 2005, 03:28 PM ugordan QUOTE (RNeuhaus @ Dec 7 2005, 04:28 PM)... Dec 7 2005, 03:30 PM Omega Yeah, woo-hoo, nukes! EEEEERRRRRNNNNTTT!... Dec 7 2005, 05:05 PM ljk4-1 QUOTE (Omega @ Dec 7 2005, 12:05 PM)Yeah, woo... Dec 7 2005, 05:12 PM ljk4-1 I found this quote and I just had to add it here, ... Apr 7 2006, 04:12 PM GregM . Apr 7 2006, 06:17 PM Bob Shaw GregM:
You'd not want to pollute the precious... Apr 7 2006, 08:49 PM mchan GregM
That doesn't look like La Puta! Apr 8 2006, 01:56 AM edstrick Peace on Europa, Purity of Essence. Apr 8 2006, 10:12 AM mchan Hmm, I wonder what the fluoride levels in Europa... Apr 8 2006, 05:44 PM Richard Trigaux MAKE OBS, NOT WAR Apr 8 2006, 08:28 PM GravityWaves Let me also say I find the idea of exploring Europ... Apr 10 2006, 02:57 AM |
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