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stevesliva
post Feb 1 2012, 01:33 AM
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I actually didn't read it as blaming anyone outside Russia. They're blaming whomever used a not rad-hard part, and it sounds like that someone's in Russia. If I poured Evian in my engine block, it wouldn't be an indictment of France if the engine blew up.

I would say that the level of blame being focused on just that issue, though, is scapegoating. There are clearly several fruitful branches on the fault tree. And the rush to promise that heads will roll isn't really mollifying, either.
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post Feb 1 2012, 02:58 AM
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All: it sucks that Phobos-Grunt is gone, and that it apparently never had a chance. And given the recent remarks of Russian officials, it's reasonable to suspect that there is some kind of scapegoating or whitewashing going on, and that this is an exceedingly rare situation where conspiracy theories such as those proposed above may have a little bit of merit. But none of this discussion is relevant to the narrow focus of this forum. And conspiracy theory discussions are explicitly banned by rule 1.9. There are several other forums where lively discussions about why Phobos-Grunt failed are taking place and will likely continue for some time, such as this one. But unless someone finds wreckage from the spacecraft, or unless a Phobos-Grunt 2 is actually being built, or unless someone publishes a paper about the planned Phobos-Grunt landing sites (which may happen, which is why I'm not closing this thread), we're probably done discussing Phobos-Grunt at unmannedspaceflight.com. It's over, and it produced no data or any deep-space adventure to discuss.


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marsophile
post Feb 1 2012, 04:23 PM
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I would like to add just one more insighful article by James Oberg, analyzing potential technical reasons for the Phobos-Grunt loss.

http://www.thespacereview.com/article/2016/1
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post Feb 2 2012, 11:26 AM
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Perhaps it's best that the P-G did fail. It was foolish and risky to send active biological samples to Mars.

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post Feb 2 2012, 11:46 AM
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1. Please re-read Emily's comment above.
2. Sorry all, but unless something dramatic occurs, it's time to close this topic. Discussion over.
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