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In Astronomy's February issue, they report that Russia has approved funding for the Phobos-Grunt mission. Design work has gone on since 1997, and the new design is scaled down to fly an a Soyuz rocket instead of the larger Proton. The main purpose is similar to Phobos-2, with the addition of a sample return. Also being discussed is the possibility of it carrying a few "meteorological stations" fof Mars itself. Generally, I have written this mission off as "never going to happen," but with the new Russian alliance with ESA, I wonder if they might be able to actually fly this thing. Also, with Putin's increasingly Soviet-style leadership, and with the likelyhood of lunar missions from China and India, Russian pride might drive this mission. If so, I have a concern. This mission sounds really, really ambitious. And the Russians have never even sent a fully successful Mars orbiter, and that is when they launched them in pairs or triplets. Still, if the mission flies, even if it doesn't bring back Phobos soil it might obtain some interesting results. Here is ESA's Phobos-Grunt page:
http://www.esa.int/SPECIALS/ESA_Permanent_...IJFW4QWD_0.html Also, ESA has another page on potential Russian programs, although this seem to be nothing but pipe dreams at the moment. Would be a cool mission though. http://www.esa.int/SPECIALS/ESA_Permanent_...0LFW4QWD_0.html And also a page on the only partially realized current Russian project, its program to put instruments on other's spacecraft, such as HEND on Odyssey. http://www.esa.int/SPECIALS/ESA_Permanent_...HMFW4QWD_0.html -------------------- |
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tedstryk Phobos-Grunt Jan 22 2005, 02:15 PM
SpaceListener My toughts are:
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Paolo From Lavochkin's website translated by Babelfi... Aug 2 2008, 05:42 PM
rlorenz Interesting picture - looks very confrontational -... Aug 3 2008, 09:35 AM
Paolo An image of the Phobos Grunt mission profile
And s... Aug 3 2008, 11:44 AM
Paolo Some info about the engine hardware on Fobos Grunt... Sep 9 2008, 06:29 PM
Phil Stooke There's some new information on Phobos from Ma... Oct 16 2008, 03:35 PM
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peter59 QUOTE (Phil Stooke @ Nov 6 2008, 03:49 PM... Nov 6 2008, 05:57 PM
SFJCody I wonder when (if?) Phobos-Grunt will get a delay ... Dec 5 2008, 10:56 PM
Paolo QUOTE (SFJCody @ Dec 5 2008, 11:56 PM) I ... Dec 8 2008, 04:41 PM
SpaceListener QUOTE (SFJCody @ Dec 5 2008, 04:56 PM) I ... Dec 8 2008, 06:14 PM
Paolo According to the most recent RKA news release (dat... Dec 8 2008, 06:39 PM
IM4 According to insiders, Phobos-Grunt will also be d... Dec 9 2008, 07:49 PM
Paolo According to this week's issue of French ... Dec 13 2008, 09:50 AM
Paolo Doubts doubts doubts...
I was wondering about the ... Dec 13 2008, 02:04 PM
mps QUOTE (Paolo @ Dec 13 2008, 04:04 PM) I s... Dec 13 2008, 08:31 PM
Paolo QUOTE (mps @ Dec 13 2008, 09:31 PM) It se... Dec 13 2008, 08:51 PM
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Paolo QUOTE (ugordan @ Dec 13 2008, 10:22 PM) I... Dec 13 2008, 10:01 PM

ugordan As far as I see, the present Fregat stage was deri... Dec 13 2008, 10:30 PM
IM4 QUOTE (ugordan @ Dec 13 2008, 10:22 PM) I... Dec 14 2008, 10:25 AM
ugordan I stand fully corrected! Dec 14 2008, 11:35 AM
Paolo QUOTE (IM4 @ Dec 14 2008, 11:25 AM) Boost... Dec 14 2008, 11:42 AM
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Zvezdichko There's something that disturbs me even more.
... Jan 3 2009, 12:15 PM
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Zvezdichko Yeah, TIM and DIAMOND may not fly at all
MetNet ... Jan 3 2009, 12:39 PM
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Hungry4info QUOTE (Zvezdichko @ Jan 4 2009, 08:36 AM)... Jan 4 2009, 07:52 PM
sci44 FULL INLINE QUOTE REMOVED - ADMIN
Ok, but its int... Jan 4 2009, 10:56 PM
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Zvezdichko http://www.vesti.ru/doc.html?id=244836&cid=10
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Paolo QUOTE (Zvezdichko @ Jan 23 2009, 12:05 AM... Jan 24 2009, 08:30 AM

New Ocean This has to be one of the most daring missions in ... Jan 26 2009, 05:20 PM
Pavel QUOTE (Zvezdichko @ Jan 22 2009, 06:05 PM... Feb 4 2009, 12:06 AM
Zvezdichko USSR has experience in sample return missions. i r... Jan 26 2009, 07:06 PM
mps QUOTE (New Ocean @ Jan 26 2009, 07:20 PM)... Jan 26 2009, 07:43 PM
tedstryk QUOTE (mps @ Jan 26 2009, 08:43 PM) I sus... Jan 27 2009, 04:21 AM
elakdawalla Really? That would put Phoenix to shame, in te... Jan 27 2009, 05:59 PM
SFJCody QUOTE (elakdawalla @ Jan 27 2009, 05:59 P... Jan 27 2009, 09:15 PM
Enceladus75 And wasn't Magellan's main radio dish a fl... Jan 28 2009, 02:50 AM
dvandorn QUOTE (Enceladus75 @ Jan 27 2009, 08:50 P... Jan 28 2009, 05:28 AM
Geert Posted on request of James Oberg:
QUOTE Announcin... Feb 3 2009, 04:02 AM
mps A interesting article indeed. I think that the Uni... Feb 4 2009, 07:49 AM
Alex Chapman QUOTE (mps @ Feb 4 2009, 08:49 AM) A inte... Feb 4 2009, 08:37 PM
PhilCo126 Probably some of us read the story of a Russian Bi... Mar 6 2009, 03:20 PM
Zvezdichko http://www.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/phpBB2/...... Mar 18 2009, 11:36 AM
Zvezdichko http://www.spectrum.ieee.org/apr09/8527
Russia to... Apr 8 2009, 08:46 AM
tedstryk I am not sad about this. Given the rocket switch ... Apr 8 2009, 09:00 AM
Zvezdichko Yes, but if they don't launch this year, they ... Apr 8 2009, 09:15 AM
tedstryk Right, but better to let them get a little bored t... Apr 8 2009, 09:57 AM
Geert QUOTE (tedstryk @ Apr 8 2009, 05:57 PM) R... Apr 9 2009, 12:48 PM
remcook Don't worry, MetNet will be back, maybe sooner... Apr 9 2009, 01:46 PM
cbcnasa I think the public gets bored shortly after a miss... Apr 9 2009, 04:16 PM
Vultur I'd much rather have a 2011-launched success t... Apr 9 2009, 10:29 PM
Phil Stooke Nice pic of a mockup.
Phil
Apr 17 2009, 05:03 PM
andrea This article is not too positive:
http://www.spac... Apr 26 2009, 05:43 AM
Vultur So there's still no official statement of the ... Apr 27 2009, 05:58 AM
Zvezdichko Russia refutes rumors that Phobos-Grunt will be de... May 5 2009, 04:13 PM
SpaceListener QUOTE (Zvezdichko @ May 5 2009, 10:13 AM)... May 5 2009, 05:08 PM

Zvezdichko QUOTE (SpaceListener @ May 5 2009, 06:08 ... May 5 2009, 05:44 PM

ElkGroveDan QUOTE (Zvezdichko @ May 5 2009, 10:44 AM)... May 5 2009, 06:50 PM

tedstryk "What has appeared in a number of electronic ... May 5 2009, 07:50 PM

Vultur QUOTE (tedstryk @ May 5 2009, 07:50 PM) T... May 6 2009, 02:29 AM

centsworth_II QUOTE (Vultur @ May 5 2009, 10:29 PM) Let... May 6 2009, 03:16 AM
Paolo QUOTE (Zvezdichko @ May 5 2009, 06:13 PM)... May 5 2009, 05:20 PM
nprev From their lips to God's ears. We all want PG ... May 5 2009, 11:32 PM
Zvezdichko A friend of mine informed me that all threads abou... May 12 2009, 07:56 PM
monitorlizard http://www.planetary.org/blog
Guest blogger Alan ... May 19 2009, 12:14 PM
Phil Stooke A good summary from Alan, but (off topic for this ... May 19 2009, 12:22 PM
tedstryk QUOTE (Phil Stooke @ May 19 2009, 01:22 P... May 20 2009, 12:58 AM
remcook From the ESA ESLAB conference last week, the offic... May 19 2009, 02:37 PM
Phil Stooke I suppose that is possible, Ted. If so, my apolog... May 20 2009, 03:20 AM
tedstryk Here we go. Enceladus is 1.1× 10^20 kg^4, Vesta i... May 20 2009, 09:18 PM
Zvezdichko Novosti Kosmonavtiki announced that the Chinese su... May 27 2009, 07:06 PM
Zvezdichko http://www.spacedaily.com/reports/China_to..._prob... May 30 2009, 09:51 AM
SpaceListener I am still confused whether or not that Yinghuo-1 ... May 30 2009, 06:36 PM
redmoon Sorry for my bad English, so only this Link:
http... May 30 2009, 07:33 PM
tedstryk Yinghuo-1 will launch with Phobos-Grunt and ride t... May 31 2009, 08:07 PM
Zvezdichko http://www.roscosmos.ru/NewsDoSele.asp?NEWSID=6536... Jun 20 2009, 09:28 PM
redmoon You can read more about the bacteria-experiment he... Jun 20 2009, 09:38 PM
SFJCody Looks like there has been another update at russia... Jun 21 2009, 06:53 AM
Paolo No one seems to have commented on this, but the Fo... Jun 21 2009, 09:41 AM
Paolo A nice article about Yinghuo from China's Peop... Jun 23 2009, 06:53 PM
jsheff Apparently the CNES will receive soil samples from... Jun 29 2009, 09:44 PM
Paolo Yinghuo reportedly arrived in Moscow today Aug 6 2009, 03:08 PM
tedstryk Given that its orbit is so elliptical, maybe it wi... Aug 6 2009, 05:54 PM
lyford Either that photo caption is incorrect, or China... Aug 6 2009, 06:42 PM
centsworth_II RE: Phobos-Grunt Aug 6 2009, 08:47 PM
Paolo I am told Yinghuo actually arrived in Moscow on 17... Aug 7 2009, 07:26 AM
Paolo I have just received from a contact in China an in... Aug 8 2009, 10:09 AM
Zvezdichko Too bad they are so secretive. 200 m resolution do... Aug 8 2009, 10:38 AM
Paolo The presentation I was sent was intended for inter... Aug 8 2009, 11:10 AM
nprev QUOTE (Paolo @ Aug 8 2009, 04:10 AM) prob... Aug 8 2009, 05:19 PM![]() ![]() |
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