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tedstryk
post Jan 22 2005, 02:15 PM
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In Astronomy's February issue, they report that Russia has approved funding for the Phobos-Grunt mission. Design work has gone on since 1997, and the new design is scaled down to fly an a Soyuz rocket instead of the larger Proton. The main purpose is similar to Phobos-2, with the addition of a sample return. Also being discussed is the possibility of it carrying a few "meteorological stations" fof Mars itself. Generally, I have written this mission off as "never going to happen," but with the new Russian alliance with ESA, I wonder if they might be able to actually fly this thing. Also, with Putin's increasingly Soviet-style leadership, and with the likelyhood of lunar missions from China and India, Russian pride might drive this mission. If so, I have a concern. This mission sounds really, really ambitious. And the Russians have never even sent a fully successful Mars orbiter, and that is when they launched them in pairs or triplets. Still, if the mission flies, even if it doesn't bring back Phobos soil it might obtain some interesting results. Here is ESA's Phobos-Grunt page:
http://www.esa.int/SPECIALS/ESA_Permanent_...IJFW4QWD_0.html

Also, ESA has another page on potential Russian programs, although this seem to be nothing but pipe dreams at the moment. Would be a cool mission though.

http://www.esa.int/SPECIALS/ESA_Permanent_...0LFW4QWD_0.html

And also a page on the only partially realized current Russian project, its program to put instruments on other's spacecraft, such as HEND on Odyssey.

http://www.esa.int/SPECIALS/ESA_Permanent_...HMFW4QWD_0.html


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- tedstryk   Phobos-Grunt   Jan 22 2005, 02:15 PM
- - tolis   The plot thickens..apparently there is a statement...   Oct 29 2009, 09:06 PM
- - mps   Maybe the Zenit was considered powerful enough at ...   Oct 29 2009, 09:38 PM
- - tolis   That is quite likely. The majority of flight proje...   Oct 29 2009, 09:59 PM
- - Paolo   Anatoly Zak has an update on F-G, it seems like th...   Mar 10 2010, 06:29 PM
- - Hungry4info   Have they found a way around that? Maybe a mechani...   Mar 10 2010, 07:33 PM
- - Gsnorgathon   They'd pretty much have to harpoon Phobos in o...   Mar 12 2010, 12:26 AM
- - Explorer1   Rosetta's lander Philae has just that; a harpo...   Mar 12 2010, 12:36 AM
- - Paolo   A short release in Russian on the site of the spac...   Mar 12 2010, 08:03 PM
- - Paolo   Poland will apparently have a penetrator on Fobos-...   Apr 11 2010, 03:30 PM
|- - centsworth_II   QUOTE (Paolo @ Apr 11 2010, 10:30 AM) Pol...   Apr 11 2010, 04:01 PM
|- - rlorenz   QUOTE (Paolo @ Apr 11 2010, 10:30 AM) Pol...   Apr 11 2010, 11:26 PM
- - Phil Stooke   Paolo, check your own post just above! It...   Apr 11 2010, 04:11 PM
|- - centsworth_II   QUOTE (Phil Stooke @ Apr 11 2010, 12:11 P...   Apr 11 2010, 04:21 PM
- - Paolo   A rough translation from a Polish contact of mine:...   Apr 11 2010, 06:28 PM
- - Phil Stooke   No sign of METNET, the Finnish lander, either. Ph...   May 3 2010, 11:19 PM
|- - ElkGroveDan   QUOTE (Phil Stooke @ May 3 2010, 04:19 PM...   May 4 2010, 01:09 AM
- - nprev   RE: Phobos-Grunt   May 4 2010, 02:33 AM
- - Phil Stooke   Couldn't have put that better myself! Wha...   May 4 2010, 02:53 AM
- - elakdawalla   That's it. Dan, Phil, time outs for both of yo...   May 4 2010, 04:34 AM
- - ilbasso   Wow, Doug has barely been out of the country a wee...   May 5 2010, 12:23 AM
- - Phil Stooke   Sorry! Phil   May 5 2010, 03:20 AM
- - Phil Stooke   On a more serious note... Regarding the earlier P...   Jun 3 2010, 02:14 PM
|- - Paolo   QUOTE (Phil Stooke @ Jun 3 2010, 04:14 PM...   Jun 3 2010, 09:25 PM
- - tolis   A rather comprehensive update on Phobos-Grunt may ...   Jun 17 2010, 09:51 PM
- - Phil Stooke   Thanks for that. It's too bad that METNET can...   Jun 17 2010, 10:06 PM
- - Paolo   A picture of what appears to be FG's ascent st...   Jun 28 2010, 06:10 PM
- - Phil Stooke   Yes, they're getting ready to transport it to ...   Jun 28 2010, 06:15 PM
|- - ugordan   LOL!   Jun 28 2010, 06:20 PM
|- - Paolo   QUOTE (Phil Stooke @ Jun 28 2010, 08:15 P...   Jun 28 2010, 06:29 PM
- - jekbradbury   To tow the Lada!   Jun 28 2010, 06:45 PM
|- - ugordan   Now that's just silly. Everyone knows Lada is ...   Jun 28 2010, 07:14 PM
- - charborob   QUOTE (Paolo @ Jun 28 2010, 01:29 PM) and...   Jun 28 2010, 07:18 PM
- - Phil Stooke   Now people, could we please try to take this serio...   Jun 28 2010, 11:24 PM
- - Astro0   Article on the BBC website. http://news.bbc.co.uk/...   Jun 29 2010, 05:53 AM
- - Drkskywxlt   Not trying to be negative here, but just realistic...   Jun 29 2010, 01:45 PM
|- - ugordan   QUOTE (Drkskywxlt @ Jun 29 2010, 03:45 PM...   Jun 29 2010, 02:07 PM
|- - Drkskywxlt   QUOTE (ugordan @ Jun 29 2010, 10:07 AM) W...   Jun 29 2010, 03:13 PM
- - djellison   They started small. 50 years ago.   Jun 29 2010, 03:47 PM
|- - Drkskywxlt   full inline quote removed - admin Of course they ...   Jun 29 2010, 03:50 PM
- - djellison   Like it or not - they're doing this. And ...   Jun 29 2010, 03:54 PM
|- - Drkskywxlt   QUOTE (djellison @ Jun 29 2010, 11:54 AM)...   Jun 29 2010, 07:51 PM
- - charborob   Coming back to the picture on post 327, surely thi...   Jun 29 2010, 03:59 PM
- - hendric   In Soviet Russia, space probes put you in the box...   Jun 29 2010, 06:22 PM
|- - nprev   QUOTE (hendric @ Jun 29 2010, 10:22 AM) O...   Jun 29 2010, 08:05 PM
- - Hungry4info   @Drkskywxlt I know what you mean... they haven...   Jun 29 2010, 08:06 PM
- - Phil Stooke   Conditions are much better now than they were in t...   Jun 29 2010, 09:01 PM
- - Phil Stooke   And speaking of my book... here's a comparison...   Jun 29 2010, 09:36 PM
- - Phil Stooke   Can anybody help me with something...???? I would...   Jul 9 2010, 04:34 PM
- - Phil Stooke   Speaking of Phobos sample return, here's an il...   Aug 11 2010, 02:34 PM
- - konangrit   QUOTE Mars probe blastoff in November Tuesday, Fe...   Feb 25 2011, 08:53 PM
- - Paolo   ***Edited*** apparently my source messed up and s...   Mar 21 2011, 05:45 PM
|- - tedstryk   This EGU 2011 abstract seems to contradict reports...   Mar 23 2011, 12:35 AM
|- - SFJCody   Yeah, I'm confused by the status of MetNet as ...   Mar 23 2011, 12:37 AM
|- - tedstryk   QUOTE (SFJCody @ Mar 23 2011, 01:37 AM) Y...   Mar 23 2011, 12:46 AM
- - Phil Stooke   "This EGU 2011 abstract seems to contradict r...   Mar 23 2011, 01:27 PM
|- - tedstryk   I dropped an e-mail to a contact of mine within th...   Mar 23 2011, 08:59 PM
|- - tedstryk   OK, my source tells me that MetNet will not fly on...   Mar 24 2011, 10:00 AM
- - konangrit   QUOTE Russian engineers have made significant impr...   Mar 29 2011, 05:36 AM
- - Paolo   the Lavochkin website has a short story (in Russia...   Jun 2 2011, 02:48 PM
- - tolis   An update on launch preparations at http://www.r...   Jun 13 2011, 10:07 PM
- - nprev   I hope that translation difficulties are responsib...   Jun 13 2011, 11:29 PM
- - Ron Hobbs   Got a chance to read a commentary by Frank Mooring...   Jun 19 2011, 09:07 PM
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- - Phil Stooke   At LPSC last year I spoke to Chinese scientists wo...   Jun 19 2011, 10:09 PM
- - elakdawalla   Does anybody know of an updated diagram of Phobos-...   Jul 29 2011, 07:33 PM
- - Paolo   it's not the same thing that you asked Emily, ...   Jul 29 2011, 08:06 PM
|- - rlorenz   There was just 15 mins ago a talk at the AOGS Conf...   Aug 9 2011, 06:39 AM
- - Paolo   for UMSFers who can read Russian, here is the late...   Aug 12 2011, 07:48 PM
- - Phil Stooke   New placenames in the vicinity of the landing site...   Aug 18 2011, 12:57 AM
- - DEChengst   Found this picture in a newsletter about MAKS 2011...   Aug 19 2011, 03:35 PM
- - Paolo   According to this RIA-Novosti release (in Russian)...   Sep 24 2011, 09:31 AM
- - JTN   This article on the IAC speculates that a 2011 lau...   Oct 4 2011, 08:50 PM
|- - GEmin1   QUOTE (JTN @ Oct 4 2011, 09:50 PM) I...   Oct 14 2011, 08:32 AM
- - Paolo   F-G has been airlifted to Baykonur today by an Ant...   Oct 17 2011, 07:41 PM
- - nprev   Whoo-hoo!!! That's a freakin...   Oct 17 2011, 09:46 PM
- - djellison   Thought has just occurred to me. I wonder if they...   Oct 17 2011, 10:20 PM
|- - GEmin1   QUOTE (djellison @ Oct 17 2011, 11:20 PM)...   Oct 18 2011, 01:42 PM
- - eoincampbell   The (2nd)video hints at this... visuals alone...   Oct 18 2011, 02:04 AM
- - Phil Stooke   I think I had read that they might operate it for ...   Oct 18 2011, 02:43 AM
|- - Paolo   QUOTE (Phil Stooke @ Oct 18 2011, 04:43 A...   Oct 18 2011, 06:53 AM
- - Astro0   If anyone wants to download those videos, the link...   Oct 18 2011, 02:51 AM
- - Paolo   F-G uncrated http://www.federalspace.ru/main.php?i...   Oct 18 2011, 11:10 AM
- - djellison   That's great news.   Oct 18 2011, 03:30 PM
- - hendric   Neat video. I like how the sample return capsule ...   Oct 18 2011, 03:31 PM
- - Paolo   most of the NASA (and ESA, and the old Soviet 5M) ...   Oct 18 2011, 07:37 PM
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- - nprev   Thank you, Gemin1. I am growing increasingly exci...   Oct 19 2011, 12:04 AM
- - konangrit   Less than a week to launch. http://www.federalsp...   Nov 3 2011, 06:32 AM
- - Phil Stooke   More information here: http://ms2011.cosmos.ru/c...   Nov 3 2011, 12:09 PM
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- - konangrit   http://www.federalspace.ru/main.php?id=2&nid=1...   Nov 5 2011, 07:42 PM
- - eoincampbell   "...interplanetary station..." Love the ...   Nov 5 2011, 09:27 PM
- - MERovingian   Is it me or, if I compare the Curiosity thread wit...   Nov 5 2011, 10:08 PM
|- - ugordan   QUOTE (MERovingian @ Nov 5 2011, 11:08 PM...   Nov 5 2011, 10:42 PM
|- - elakdawalla   QUOTE (MERovingian @ Nov 5 2011, 02:08 PM...   Nov 6 2011, 12:56 AM
- - nprev   It's a hopeful sign. NASA took literally decad...   Nov 6 2011, 01:10 AM
- - Greg Hullender   For a long time, I didn't think they were real...   Nov 6 2011, 02:48 AM
- - MERovingian   Just for fun, compare: The American way of doing ...   Nov 6 2011, 03:58 PM
- - ElkGroveDan   They certainly have "different" clean ro...   Nov 6 2011, 05:15 PM
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