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post Dec 15 2005, 08:30 PM
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Steve has a new update:
http://athena1.cornell.edu/news/mubss/

And it looks like the official name for the Ultreya Abyss now is "El Dorado"

I looked up El Dorado and the poem is actually quite fitting smile.gif

by Edgar Allan Poe
(1849)

Gaily bedight,
A gallant knight,
In sunshine and in shadow,
Had journeyed long,
Singing a song,
In search of Eldorado.

But he grew old-
This knight so bold-
And o'er his heart a shadow
Fell as he found
No spot of ground
That looked like Eldorado.

And, as his strength
Failed him at length,
He met a pilgrim shadow-
"Shadow," said he,
"Where can it be-
This land of Eldorado?"

"Over the Mountains
Of the Moon,
Down the Valley of the Shadow,
Ride, boldly ride,"
The shade replied-
"If you seek for Eldorado!"


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post Dec 16 2005, 10:14 AM
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I'm still waiting for Erebus to be renamed to Albert, but hey smile.gif

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post Dec 16 2005, 11:29 AM
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Dear forum participants, followers of Ultreya saga...
I see the naming of the feature as El Dorado as a reference to all of us, who have been following this incredible mission with passion and will to learn and discover, so I believe that Steve Squyres won't mind if I transcribe here the explanation he gave for the choosing of such an inspiring name for generations to come.
And, let me add, never a poem fitted so well...

So, directly from the man in charge, here it is why:

'Hello: A couple of months ago, when I was in England, I had a talk with a gentleman named Doug Ellison in which he told me that you had suggested the name "Ultreya" for a dark feature on the south side of Husband Hill, and that the name had caught on among a community of Mars enthusiasts on the Internet. I subsequently took a look at the online forum that Doug started, and I read some of the posts there by you and others. I wanted to let you know that while we have used our normal process for assigning a name to this feature, the name that we chose -- El Dorado -- was in part inspired by your posts.

The name was partly taken from a poem by the American poet Edgar Alan Poe that seemed particularly relevant to our current strategic situation with the rover. But I also got the sense that Ultreya had become something of a symbol of hope for future exploration for you and for others in the Internet community. And El Dorado is a name that I intended to be similar in its implications. To quote from the Wikipedia article on El Dorado: "El Dorado is also sometimes used as a metaphor to represent an ultimate prize or 'Holy Grail' that one might spend their life seeking. It could represent true love, heaven, happiness, or success. It is used sometimes as a figure of speech to represent something much sought after that may not even exist, or at least may not ever be found." To me, that sounded very similar to the meaning that you've ascribed to Ultreya.

So, I'm sorry that we didn't use your name, but I hope you'll be pleased that you helped inspire the name that we gave it. I admire the enthusiasm and the spirit of exploration with which you've been following the mission.

Best wishes,

Steve Squyres'


Here, among us...This is a great day, isn't it?... rolleyes.gif


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post Dec 16 2005, 11:42 AM
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Amazing!!!!!! smile.gif smile.gif smile.gif smile.gif smile.gif smile.gif smile.gif smile.gif smile.gif
Ustrax where did you get this text from???

You received a PM from Steve Squyres or what ???


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post Dec 16 2005, 11:44 AM
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QUOTE (Toma B @ Dec 16 2005, 11:42 AM)
Amazing!!!!!! smile.gif  smile.gif  smile.gif  smile.gif  smile.gif  smile.gif  smile.gif  smile.gif  smile.gif
Ustrax where did you get this text from???
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Steve sent it to me on e-mail...
Now I ask, did he had to do it?
No way!


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- dot.dk   El Dorado   Dec 15 2005, 08:30 PM
- - TheChemist   Although part of me was hoping Ultreya would someh...   Dec 15 2005, 11:25 PM
|- - mhoward   QUOTE (TheChemist @ Dec 15 2005, 11:25 PM)Alt...   Dec 15 2005, 11:34 PM
- - djellison   It may be subtle and obscure, but there's a no...   Dec 15 2005, 11:29 PM
|- - ustrax   QUOTE (djellison @ Dec 15 2005, 11:29 PM)It m...   Dec 16 2005, 09:44 AM
|- - Bert   QUOTE (ustrax @ Dec 16 2005, 09:44 AM)I can t...   Dec 16 2005, 10:12 AM
- - dilo   A couple of PanCam images from Sol693 are enhanced...   Dec 15 2005, 11:30 PM
|- - mars loon   Wow Dilo, I think TheChemists quote is on target...   Dec 15 2005, 11:39 PM
- - edstrick   That semi-regular sand-ripple pattern texture in e...   Dec 16 2005, 05:49 AM
- - CosmicRocker   Well I'll be damned! "El Dorado...   Dec 16 2005, 06:42 AM
|- - ustrax   QUOTE (CosmicRocker @ Dec 16 2005, 06:42 AM)W...   Dec 16 2005, 09:54 AM
- - dvandorn   It concerns me that Squyres says in his latest upd...   Dec 16 2005, 06:55 AM
|- - Bert   QUOTE (dvandorn @ Dec 16 2005, 06:55 AM)... t...   Dec 16 2005, 09:44 AM
- - atomoid   yes, now im cornfused, put-put around on part of m...   Dec 16 2005, 08:45 AM
|- - Bert   QUOTE (atomoid @ Dec 16 2005, 08:45 AM)what d...   Dec 16 2005, 09:48 AM
- - Bill Harris   I was amused with the formal naming of this featur...   Dec 16 2005, 08:56 AM
- - dvandorn   Ummm... El Dorado, Bill. Not El Diablo. Although...   Dec 16 2005, 09:19 AM
- - djellison   I'm still waiting for Erebus to be renamed to ...   Dec 16 2005, 10:14 AM
|- - ustrax   Dear forum participants, followers of Ultreya saga...   Dec 16 2005, 11:29 AM
|- - Toma B   Amazing!!!!!! ...   Dec 16 2005, 11:42 AM
||- - ustrax   QUOTE (Toma B @ Dec 16 2005, 11:42 AM)Amazing...   Dec 16 2005, 11:44 AM
|- - chris   QUOTE (ustrax @ Dec 16 2005, 11:29 AM)Here, a...   Dec 16 2005, 01:26 PM
||- - ustrax   QUOTE (chris @ Dec 16 2005, 01:26 PM)Ustrax, ...   Dec 16 2005, 01:40 PM
|- - djellison   QUOTE (ustrax @ Dec 16 2005, 11:29 AM)...when...   Dec 16 2005, 03:55 PM
- - Tesheiner   Ustrax, that's really impressive!!...   Dec 16 2005, 12:22 PM
|- - ustrax   QUOTE (Tesheiner @ Dec 16 2005, 12:22 PM)...   Dec 16 2005, 12:29 PM
|- - mars loon   QUOTE (ustrax @ Dec 16 2005, 12:29 PM)Teshein...   Dec 16 2005, 01:26 PM
- - Bill Harris   QUOTE Ummm... El Dorado, Bill. Not El Diablo. Now...   Dec 16 2005, 01:27 PM
- - RNeuhaus   Ustrax, Many congratulations to you! I am very...   Dec 16 2005, 02:48 PM
- - aldo12xu   Congratulations, Ustrax!! It is a special...   Dec 16 2005, 05:02 PM
- - Reckless   Well done Ustrax and thanks to Doug Ellison it...   Dec 16 2005, 05:22 PM
|- - ustrax   According to a very SSpecial update... Q: Now, a ...   Dec 16 2005, 09:26 PM
- - dot.dk   QUOTE (ustrax @ Dec 16 2005, 09:26 PM)Accordi...   Dec 16 2005, 09:38 PM
- - Bill Harris   QUOTE sort of an eolian cul-de-sac That is my fav...   Dec 16 2005, 10:10 PM
- - djellison   I can well understand why Steve wouldnt want to vi...   Dec 16 2005, 10:19 PM
|- - dilo   This is another 3x stretch, now from NavCam mosaic...   Dec 16 2005, 10:55 PM
|- - ustrax   Bill Harris...That was my first supposition, but w...   Dec 17 2005, 01:46 AM
|- - mars loon   a looney request. while we ponder "El Dora...   Dec 17 2005, 02:08 AM
|- - ustrax   QUOTE (mars loon @ Dec 17 2005, 02:08 AM)a lo...   Dec 20 2005, 08:51 PM
- - Mizar   Hi there.. I'm a very newbie here... but I hav...   Dec 16 2005, 11:08 PM
|- - dilo   Welcome Mizar, beautiful words!   Dec 16 2005, 11:20 PM
|- - bergadder   Congratulations, Ustrax Been doing some serious l...   Dec 16 2005, 11:46 PM
- - Bill Harris   I dunno, but here's his blog: http://ultreyam...   Dec 17 2005, 02:58 AM
- - glennwsmith   Doug, Ustrax, and all -- I love it! And dot....   Dec 17 2005, 04:52 AM
- - dot.dk   QUOTE (glennwsmith @ Dec 17 2005, 04:52 AM)An...   Dec 17 2005, 05:35 AM
- - CosmicRocker   QUOTE (Bert @ Dec 16 2005, 03:48 AM)The shado...   Dec 17 2005, 07:24 AM
|- - general   QUOTE (CosmicRocker @ Dec 17 2005, 08:24 AM)S...   Dec 17 2005, 08:46 AM
|- - mars loon   QUOTE (CosmicRocker @ Dec 17 2005, 07:24 AM)S...   Dec 17 2005, 01:15 PM
- - mhoward   Here it is in all its glory, I guess: on the right   Dec 17 2005, 04:09 PM
- - stewjack   Comanche is big! From memory Comanche is ab...   Dec 17 2005, 08:46 PM
|- - stewjack   A glimpse of El Dorado? This flicker is composed ...   Dec 17 2005, 09:12 PM
|- - mars loon   QUOTE (stewjack @ Dec 17 2005, 08:46 PM)Coman...   Dec 18 2005, 02:00 PM
|- - stewjack   QUOTE (mars loon @ Dec 18 2005, 10:00 AM)Coma...   Dec 18 2005, 10:40 PM
|- - ustrax   Like I was saying on the Comanche thread...: With...   Dec 19 2005, 11:12 AM
|- - ustrax   El Dorado fully at sight! http://qt.explorato...   Dec 19 2005, 03:57 PM
|- - ustrax   QUOTE (ustrax @ Dec 19 2005, 03:57 PM)El Dora...   Dec 19 2005, 04:02 PM
|- - Tesheiner   QUOTE (ustrax @ Dec 19 2005, 04:57 PM)El Dora...   Dec 19 2005, 04:39 PM
|- - ustrax   Thanks A LOT Tesheiner... I was expecting that...   Dec 19 2005, 04:40 PM
- - Reckless   Two great flickers Stewjack Keep them coming. Rec...   Dec 17 2005, 10:21 PM
- - Gonzz   whoa, just read it, fantastico, parabens Ustrax, c...   Dec 18 2005, 04:26 AM
- - CosmicRocker   Regarding Home Plate. I'm still keeping my fi...   Dec 18 2005, 07:14 AM
- - RNeuhaus   From Commanche rock to El Dorado is very flat, per...   Dec 19 2005, 04:13 PM
- - djellison   I'd agree - it'd be the work of 2 sols at ...   Dec 19 2005, 04:20 PM
- - kanalje   I can only say, besides "Greetings", tha...   Dec 19 2005, 04:28 PM
|- - ustrax   http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v352/ustrax/rted...   Dec 19 2005, 04:36 PM
- - Burmese   I think it is a given that they will check out Hom...   Dec 19 2005, 04:50 PM
- - djellison   Yes - I think the decision between El-D and the ot...   Dec 19 2005, 04:52 PM
|- - ustrax   QUOTE (djellison @ Dec 19 2005, 04:52 PM)Yes ...   Dec 19 2005, 04:59 PM
- - Burmese   Is there actually anyone here in favor of the ...   Dec 19 2005, 05:02 PM
|- - ustrax   QUOTE (Burmese @ Dec 19 2005, 05:02 PM)Is the...   Dec 19 2005, 05:08 PM
|- - ustrax   http://appl.nasa.gov/ask/issues/16/overvie...ector...   Dec 19 2005, 08:40 PM
- - atomoid   my person favorite shot so far of the Ultreya dust...   Dec 19 2005, 10:32 PM
|- - Nirgal   Hi all, I finally recovered from a computer crash...   Dec 19 2005, 10:36 PM
|- - mars loon   QUOTE (Nirgal @ Dec 19 2005, 10:36 PM)Hi all,...   Dec 20 2005, 05:09 AM
|- - dilo   Finally, you're back, Nirgal! I'm happ...   Dec 20 2005, 05:52 AM
|- - Zeke4ther   QUOTE (Nirgal @ Dec 19 2005, 06:36 PM)So here...   Dec 20 2005, 06:22 AM
|- - ustrax   QUOTE (Nirgal @ Dec 19 2005, 10:36 PM)Hi all,...   Dec 20 2005, 09:29 AM
- - Nix   glad you got your rig fixed to continue your work ...   Dec 20 2005, 09:25 AM
- - Tesheiner   Yesterday, when looking to those fresh sol 697 nav...   Dec 20 2005, 09:28 AM
|- - Nirgal   QUOTE (Tesheiner @ Dec 20 2005, 11:28 AM)Yest...   Dec 20 2005, 08:41 PM
|- - ustrax   QUOTE (Nirgal @ Dec 20 2005, 08:41 PM)Hi Tes ...   Dec 20 2005, 08:44 PM
|- - Tesheiner   QUOTE (Nirgal @ Dec 20 2005, 09:41 PM)Hi Tes ...   Dec 21 2005, 09:52 AM
- - Nix   QUOTE (kanalje @ Dec 19 2005, 06:28 PM)I can ...   Dec 20 2005, 09:33 AM
|- - kanalje   QUOTE (NIX @ Dec 20 2005, 09:33 AM)OR -maybe ...   Dec 20 2005, 04:21 PM
- - Toma B   Autostiched panorama : Sol 697   Dec 20 2005, 01:19 PM
|- - Tesheiner   QUOTE (Toma B @ Dec 20 2005, 02:19 PM)Autosti...   Dec 20 2005, 01:30 PM
|- - Toma B   QUOTE (Tesheiner @ Dec 20 2005, 04:30 PM)Toma...   Dec 20 2005, 03:35 PM
- - mhoward   RE: El Dorado   Dec 20 2005, 03:40 PM
- - djellison   I cant help thinking of a Mid '90's TV ser...   Dec 20 2005, 04:01 PM
- - sdavies   Hi. I'm a constant reader of y'all's c...   Dec 20 2005, 06:11 PM
- - lyford   Surf's Up! And this is where I first enco...   Dec 20 2005, 08:13 PM
|- - ustrax   QUOTE (lyford @ Dec 20 2005, 08:13 PM)Surf...   Dec 20 2005, 08:34 PM
- - Mongo   This is from today's update by Steve Squyres: ...   Dec 23 2005, 07:47 PM
- - RNeuhaus   Thanks Bill. Today Spirits' sol is 702. The ...   Dec 23 2005, 08:22 PM
|- - silylene   I wish we could get closer to the ElDorado dune ri...   Dec 26 2005, 05:25 PM
|- - djellison   QUOTE (silylene @ Dec 26 2005, 05:25 PM)I wis...   Dec 26 2005, 05:26 PM
- - Bill Harris   From Spirit's Sol 699 Pancam offering, here is...   Dec 23 2005, 09:22 PM
- - dvandorn   I can understand why they want to check out El Dor...   Dec 25 2005, 08:11 AM
- - Myran   QUOTE dvandorn said: I can understand why they wan...   Dec 25 2005, 03:52 PM
- - dvandorn   Exactly. And if mini-TES can give us a general id...   Dec 25 2005, 07:52 PM
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