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El Dorado, The place formerly known as Ultreya
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post Dec 15 2005, 08:30 PM
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Steve has a new update:
http://athena1.cornell.edu/news/mubss/

And it looks like the official name for the Ultreya Abyss now is "El Dorado"

I looked up El Dorado and the poem is actually quite fitting smile.gif

by Edgar Allan Poe
(1849)

Gaily bedight,
A gallant knight,
In sunshine and in shadow,
Had journeyed long,
Singing a song,
In search of Eldorado.

But he grew old-
This knight so bold-
And o'er his heart a shadow
Fell as he found
No spot of ground
That looked like Eldorado.

And, as his strength
Failed him at length,
He met a pilgrim shadow-
"Shadow," said he,
"Where can it be-
This land of Eldorado?"

"Over the Mountains
Of the Moon,
Down the Valley of the Shadow,
Ride, boldly ride,"
The shade replied-
"If you seek for Eldorado!"


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post Dec 15 2005, 11:25 PM
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Although part of me was hoping Ultreya would somehow come through, I actually find Eldorado quite a suitable choice ...
From answers.com :
"El Dorado is used figuratively to mean any place of fabulous wealth, a utopian dream, or the land of desire."
Not bad, hey Ustrax ? smile.gif
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post Dec 15 2005, 11:29 PM
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It may be subtle and obscure, but there's a nod to the Ultreya phenomenon in there smile.gif

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post Dec 15 2005, 11:30 PM
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A couple of PanCam images from Sol693 are enhanced and stretched here (3x), showing the (probably) best Eldorado/Ultreya view up to now:
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post Dec 15 2005, 11:34 PM
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QUOTE (TheChemist @ Dec 15 2005, 11:25 PM)
Although part of me was hoping Ultreya would somehow come through, I actually find Eldorado quite a suitable choice ...
From answers.com :
"El Dorado is used figuratively to mean any place of fabulous wealth, a utopian dream, or the land of desire."
Not bad, hey Ustrax ?  smile.gif
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You have to admire the name choice, don't you? Both a reference to a "shadow" and a veiled reference to the hopes and dreams projected on this area. Color me impressed.
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post Dec 15 2005, 11:39 PM
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Wow Dilo,

I think TheChemists quote is on target for your image

" A place of fabulous wealth, a utopian dream, or the land of desire"
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post Dec 16 2005, 05:49 AM
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That semi-regular sand-ripple pattern texture in el Dorado is very similar to areas of the sand sheet on the northwest inside wall of Bonneville crater. Almost certainly much the same material and same processes, and about the same albedo, too.
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post Dec 16 2005, 06:42 AM
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Well I'll be damned! "El Dorado"

It may be a coincidence, but it sure does look like a veiled reference to Ultreya. smile.gif Far out. I've been a bit of a harsh critic in discussions of Ultreya's geologic characteristics in the past, but I must admit that I have always shared Ustrax's quixotic vision of exploration. He should be pleased.


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post Dec 16 2005, 06:55 AM
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It concerns me that Squyres says in his latest update that, after Comanche, they have time to check out either Allegheny or El Dorado, but not both, before they have to high-tail it over onto the north-facing slope of McCool Hill for the winter.

Does this mean they're NOT going to investigate Home Plate and the Pitcher's Mound?

I don't like the sound of that at ALL...

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post Dec 16 2005, 08:45 AM
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yes, now im cornfused, put-put around on part of mcCool hill for the winter? i though this was the one-mars-year anniversary, and just like splashdown one mars year ago, its prime-time to go exploring with many months of fall left to go... what did we do last mars year this time? we press onward to columbia hills, we didnt kick it on the north face of bonneville for the winter? am i missing something?
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post Dec 16 2005, 08:56 AM
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I was amused with the formal naming of this feature. Although some of the image interpretation was, uh, a bit off the wall at times, you do have to admire enthusiasm and persistence. I had grave doubts about the "abyss" part from the get-go, but it was clear that the Ultreya feature was interesting and possibly important.

El Diablo, the name fits and the legend continues... biggrin.gif

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post Dec 16 2005, 09:19 AM
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Ummm... El Dorado, Bill. Not El Diablo.

Although, maybe El Kabong would have been more appropriate...

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post Dec 16 2005, 09:44 AM
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QUOTE (djellison @ Dec 15 2005, 11:29 PM)
It may be subtle and obscure, but there's a nod to the Ultreya phenomenon in there smile.gif

Doug
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Let me just tell you that I am floating wieghtless in space with the choice of the name.
You are 100% correct Doug, there is a very strong nod to Ultreya in El Dorado...
I can tell you that, at this moment, reading the poem and some other words I received, that helped understand the election of the name, I feel an immense, IMMENSE joy.

El Dorado...We have arrived!
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post Dec 16 2005, 09:44 AM
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QUOTE (dvandorn @ Dec 16 2005, 06:55 AM)
... they have time to check out either Allegheny or El Dorado, but not both, before they have to high-tail it over onto the north-facing slope of McCool Hill for the winter.

SNIP

I don't like the sound of that at ALL...
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This should come as no surprise when keeping in mind this discussion from the end of August:

http://www.unmannedspaceflight.com/index.p...indpost&p=18384
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post Dec 16 2005, 09:48 AM
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QUOTE (atomoid @ Dec 16 2005, 08:45 AM)
what did we do last mars year this time? we press onward to columbia hills, we didnt kick it on the north face of bonneville for the winter? am i missing something?
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The shadow of Husband Hill is what makes the difference this time, IMHO.
(This is just a wild guess, I have no hard numbers to prove it, like sun angles etc...)
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