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Cassini Tour Tweaks - Titan >950 Km
edstrick
post Dec 16 2005, 06:51 AM
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tallbear: "....However, the Cassin Tour will be altered in early 2006 and these opportunities may go away while others may appear.....

Uh... Say WHAT?....is this a branch to an entirely different series of encounters than the second half of the primary mission that they've been designing in (necessarily) obsessive-compulsive detail for the last decade? Did they have to retarget to make a close flyby of a Vogon Mothership? Or did they find a spinning blue telephone call-box floating in Saturn orbit? <grin!>
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edstrick
post Dec 28 2005, 09:55 AM
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Actually, rings folk really want to be in the ring plane... in the rings....

But that requires a Prometheus-Class nuclear/electric Ring Rendezvous Mission.

I have a xeroxed article, probably from Journal of Spacecraft and Rockets, maybe from 15 years ago, describing such a mission. Spiral inwards, reach the rings, tilt the ion-engines out of plane and levitate about 10 km above the rings, continuing to spiral inwards. Mission to end 1,000 km above Saturn's equator. There was various discussion on ways to lower probes directly into the ringplane without risking the main spacecraft.

I want... I want... <whimper>
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- edstrick   Cassini Tour Tweaks - Titan >950 Km   Dec 16 2005, 06:51 AM
- - ugordan   QUOTE (edstrick @ Dec 16 2005, 07:51 AM)tallb...   Dec 16 2005, 08:19 AM
|- - pat   QUOTE (ugordan @ Dec 16 2005, 09:19 AM)Maybe ...   Dec 16 2005, 03:42 PM
|- - TritonAntares   QUOTE (pat @ Dec 16 2005, 05:42 PM)The Cassin...   Dec 16 2005, 04:15 PM
|- - ugordan   QUOTE (pat @ Dec 16 2005, 04:42 PM)The Cassin...   Dec 16 2005, 04:28 PM
|- - elakdawalla   QUOTE (ugordan @ Dec 16 2005, 08:28 AM)Yes, b...   Dec 16 2005, 04:30 PM
||- - EccentricAnomaly   QUOTE (elakdawalla @ Dec 16 2005, 09:30 AM)Ma...   Dec 17 2005, 06:17 AM
|- - tallbear   QUOTE (ugordan @ Dec 16 2005, 09:28 AM)Yes, b...   Dec 16 2005, 05:39 PM
|- - JRehling   QUOTE (ugordan @ Dec 16 2005, 08:28 AM)I keep...   Dec 16 2005, 07:13 PM
|- - AlexBlackwell   QUOTE (JRehling @ Dec 16 2005, 07:13 PM)I...   Dec 16 2005, 07:42 PM
|- - JRehling   QUOTE (AlexBlackwell @ Dec 16 2005, 11:42 AM)...   Dec 16 2005, 08:02 PM
- - volcanopele   I've moved all posts on the new tour, caused b...   Dec 16 2005, 06:06 PM
- - volcanopele   I guess I'll add my $0.02. Basically, be...   Dec 16 2005, 06:26 PM
|- - AlexBlackwell   QUOTE (volcanopele @ Dec 16 2005, 06:26 PM)I ...   Dec 16 2005, 06:39 PM
|- - canis_minor   The new flyby altitudes have been selected, the de...   Dec 16 2005, 07:10 PM
||- - volcanopele   QUOTE (canis_minor @ Dec 16 2005, 12:10 PM)Th...   Dec 16 2005, 08:22 PM
||- - EccentricAnomaly   QUOTE (volcanopele @ Dec 16 2005, 01:22 PM)No...   Dec 16 2005, 08:51 PM
||- - AlexBlackwell   QUOTE (EccentricAnomaly @ Dec 16 2005, 08:51 ...   Dec 16 2005, 11:59 PM
||- - EccentricAnomaly   QUOTE (AlexBlackwell @ Dec 16 2005, 04:59 PM)...   Dec 17 2005, 06:06 AM
||- - The Messenger   QUOTE (EccentricAnomaly @ Dec 16 2005, 01:51 ...   Dec 28 2005, 01:54 AM
|- - AlexBlackwell   QUOTE (AlexBlackwell @ Dec 16 2005, 08:39...   Dec 15 2006, 08:24 PM
|- - volcanopele   QUOTE (AlexBlackwell @ Dec 15 2006, 01:24...   Dec 15 2006, 08:54 PM
|- - AlexBlackwell   QUOTE (volcanopele @ Dec 15 2006, 10:54 A...   Dec 15 2006, 08:58 PM
- - elakdawalla   I've posted updated Titan flyby altitudes in m...   Dec 16 2005, 08:18 PM
|- - Bob Shaw   If I remember correctly, some of the early(ish) EO...   Dec 17 2005, 12:54 AM
|- - EccentricAnomaly   QUOTE (Bob Shaw @ Dec 16 2005, 05:54 PM)If I ...   Dec 17 2005, 06:10 AM
- - BruceMoomaw   I would presume that another thing they'll wan...   Dec 16 2005, 11:42 PM
- - edstrick   A basic note regarding extended mission options. ...   Dec 17 2005, 06:58 AM
- - BruceMoomaw   Robert Mitchell told me flatly that insertion into...   Dec 17 2005, 08:29 AM
- - edstrick   The problem with aerocapture through repeated aero...   Dec 17 2005, 08:34 AM
- - tty   QUOTE Also interesting is that they're explori...   Dec 17 2005, 04:14 PM
|- - ugordan   QUOTE (tty @ Dec 17 2005, 05:14 PM)Is flying ...   Dec 17 2005, 04:19 PM
- - canis_minor   A few comments on recent posts. Propellant and ex...   Dec 19 2005, 08:15 PM
|- - AlexBlackwell   NASA Considering Extending Cassini Mission Through...   Dec 27 2005, 08:27 PM
|- - ugordan   It's nice to hear an official word on an exten...   Dec 27 2005, 08:43 PM
|- - AlexBlackwell   QUOTE (ugordan @ Dec 27 2005, 08:43 PM)That...   Dec 27 2005, 10:08 PM
|- - ugordan   Unless something completely surprising crops up in...   Dec 27 2005, 11:10 PM
- - volcanopele   I should point out that Cassini already flew throu...   Dec 19 2005, 08:17 PM
- - volcanopele   A few things I should note: first, in order to acc...   Dec 27 2005, 11:37 PM
|- - AlexBlackwell   QUOTE (volcanopele @ Dec 27 2005, 11:37 PM)A ...   Dec 28 2005, 12:04 AM
||- - Bob Shaw   One of the serendipitous aspects of even the curre...   Dec 28 2005, 12:19 AM
||- - nprev   QUOTE (Bob Shaw @ Dec 27 2005, 05:19 PM)One o...   Dec 28 2005, 12:45 AM
||- - AlexBlackwell   QUOTE (nprev @ Dec 28 2005, 12:45 AM)I hope o...   Dec 28 2005, 05:53 PM
|- - tallbear   QUOTE (volcanopele @ Dec 27 2005, 04:37 PM)A ...   Dec 28 2005, 08:27 AM
|- - volcanopele   QUOTE (tallbear @ Dec 28 2005, 01:27 AM)depen...   Dec 28 2005, 10:55 AM
|- - tallbear   QUOTE (volcanopele @ Dec 28 2005, 03:55 AM)BT...   Dec 28 2005, 05:54 PM
|- - AlexBlackwell   QUOTE (tallbear @ Dec 28 2005, 05:54 PM)BTW.....   Dec 28 2005, 05:59 PM
|- - tallbear   QUOTE (AlexBlackwell @ Dec 28 2005, 10:59 AM)...   Dec 28 2005, 11:21 PM
|- - AlexBlackwell   QUOTE (tallbear @ Dec 28 2005, 11:21 PM)EM re...   Dec 29 2005, 01:56 AM
- - BruceMoomaw   I pretty much take for granted that an extended mi...   Dec 28 2005, 01:41 AM
|- - AlexBlackwell   QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Dec 28 2005, 01:41 AM)I ...   Dec 28 2005, 08:21 PM
|- - Toma B   QUOTE (AlexBlackwell @ Dec 28 2005, 11:21 PM)...   Dec 28 2005, 08:46 PM
|- - ugordan   QUOTE (Toma B @ Dec 28 2005, 09:46 PM)What wo...   Dec 28 2005, 08:50 PM
||- - volcanopele   QUOTE (ugordan @ Dec 28 2005, 01:50 PM)Six ho...   Dec 28 2005, 08:53 PM
||- - ugordan   Are there any prospects for Enceladus observations...   Dec 28 2005, 08:58 PM
|- - AlexBlackwell   QUOTE (Toma B @ Dec 28 2005, 08:46 PM)What wo...   Dec 28 2005, 08:56 PM
- - tasp   I'm not smart enough to do the math on this so...   Dec 28 2005, 05:49 AM
- - tasp   What the heck, might as well drop this one in too:...   Dec 28 2005, 05:56 AM
- - edstrick   I wouild assume a major science opportunity during...   Dec 28 2005, 07:22 AM
|- - tallbear   QUOTE (edstrick @ Dec 28 2005, 12:22 AM)I wou...   Dec 28 2005, 08:39 AM
- - edstrick   Actually, rings folk really want to be in the ring...   Dec 28 2005, 09:55 AM
|- - EccentricAnomaly   QUOTE (edstrick @ Dec 28 2005, 02:55 AM)Actua...   Jan 2 2006, 06:26 PM
- - BruceMoomaw   I've just found a very nice and very recent pa...   Dec 29 2005, 04:24 AM
- - BruceMoomaw   Make that "Large Flagship" level -- the ...   Dec 30 2005, 02:48 AM
- - tasp   I'm not afraid to post this, if it is dum, be ...   Dec 30 2005, 03:28 AM
- - BruceMoomaw   Uh-uh -- it would be HARDER to orbit Iapetus than ...   Dec 30 2005, 08:07 AM
|- - Holder of the Two Leashes   QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Dec 30 2005, 02:07 AM)...   Dec 31 2005, 01:31 AM
|- - EccentricAnomaly   QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Dec 30 2005, 01:07 AM)Uh...   Jan 2 2006, 06:10 PM
- - BruceMoomaw   2 to 2.5 km/sec is hardly "meager" -- th...   Dec 31 2005, 04:01 AM
|- - David   QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Dec 31 2005, 04:01 AM)I ...   Dec 31 2005, 04:14 AM
||- - mchan   QUOTE (David @ Dec 30 2005, 08:14 PM)Ah, but ...   Jan 2 2006, 01:30 AM
||- - dvandorn   Dewey lives! -the other Doug   Jan 2 2006, 01:46 AM
||- - nprev   QUOTE (dvandorn @ Jan 1 2006, 06:46 PM)Dewey ...   Jan 2 2006, 05:56 AM
|- - nprev   QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Dec 30 2005, 09:01 PM)2 ...   Jan 2 2006, 06:20 AM
- - edstrick   Bruce: ".... I suspect that the one finally ...   Dec 31 2005, 11:51 AM
- - edstrick   Nprev: "...never could figure out why they...   Jan 2 2006, 06:16 AM
- - BruceMoomaw   EcdentricAnomaly is, I believe, overlooking the po...   Jan 2 2006, 11:53 PM
|- - EccentricAnomaly   QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Jan 2 2006, 04:53 PM)Ecd...   Jan 4 2006, 01:08 AM
|- - EccentricAnomaly   Orbiting Phoebe might also me possible... but its...   Jan 4 2006, 01:09 AM
||- - nprev   QUOTE (EccentricAnomaly @ Jan 3 2006, 06:09 P...   Jan 4 2006, 01:47 AM
|- - AlexBlackwell   QUOTE (EccentricAnomaly @ Jan 4 2006, 01:08 A...   Jan 4 2006, 05:57 PM
- - tasp   IIRC, one of the many Pluto probe ideas floated in...   Jan 4 2006, 03:59 AM
|- - nprev   QUOTE (tasp @ Jan 3 2006, 08:59 PM)IIRC, one ...   Jan 4 2006, 05:11 AM
- - BruceMoomaw   There was never any chance of having the same craf...   Jan 4 2006, 05:35 AM
- - Decepticon   Didn't Russia want to add a "Zond" L...   Jan 4 2006, 06:50 AM
- - AlexBlackwell   QUOTE (Decepticon @ Jan 4 2006, 06:50 AM)Didn...   Jan 4 2006, 05:30 PM


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