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 Dec 20 2005, 01:07 AM
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Wreckage of Beagle found scattered in Mars crater
Talk about being unlucky assuming this is confirmed. |
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Dec 20 2005, 03:00 AM
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I didn't see one on the page linked by imram but the BBC has a picture.
I hope they have a 'before' shot, else I'm going to be more than a little skeptical. James -------------------- |
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Dec 20 2005, 05:15 AM
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QUOTE (jamescanvin @ Dec 20 2005, 03:00 AM) I didn't see one on the page linked by imram but the BBC has a picture. I hope they have a 'before' shot, else I'm going to be more than a little skeptical. James  The BBC image show exactly the same feature linked in ermar post, but negative/contrast-enhanced version. Below I made a resume poster of identification...
If identification is correct, there is a commonality between Opportunity and Beagle: both landed inside craters of similar sizes...! Howewer, looking to the high-res crater images, I'm very skeptical too. A promising elevated structure visible in original 1.5 m/pixel MOC view (lower inset) seems not visible in the cPROTO obtained in April 2004 (upper inset), obtained under similar illumination condition; the presumed "airbag" feature in the crater center doesn't convince me... -------------------- I always think before posting! - Marco -
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Dec 20 2005, 08:33 AM
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QUOTE (dilo @ Dec 20 2005, 05:15 AM) If identification is correct, there is a commonality between Opportunity and Beagle: both landed inside craters of similar sizes...! Well - to be fair, Oppy didnt land in a crater, it rolled into one  I just saw CP on BBC Breakfast News, and he was fairly cautious that Unless B2 broke up high in the atmosphere and burnt up, there should be SOMETHING on the ground. A new impact crater, or a parachute, or a parachute and some airbags etc etc depending on how far the whole thing got. Given how easily the MER chutes were spotted - SOMETHING should be visible, and this is as good a candidate as anything, so it gives a specific target for HIRISE, and given the HIRISE data flow, I'm going to be hooked on the data when it arrives Doug |
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imran Wreckage Of Beagle 2 Found? Dec 20 2005, 01:07 AM
ermar Unlucky? Seems pretty lucky for Pilinger if it ch... Dec 20 2005, 01:40 AM lyford Dr. Pillinger, Dec, 2003
QUOTE Professor Colin Pil... Dec 20 2005, 02:04 AM
odave Yep, shades of the false ID of MPL's remains e... Dec 20 2005, 03:31 AM
jamescanvin QUOTE (dilo @ Dec 20 2005, 04:15 PM)The BBC i... Dec 20 2005, 10:38 AM volcanopele QUOTE (jamescanvin @ Dec 19 2005, 08:00 PM)I ... Dec 20 2005, 08:31 PM deglr6328 Ohh yes! If I squint hard enough I can just ma... Dec 20 2005, 07:04 AM djellison Just had a thought - if the impact into the side o... Dec 20 2005, 09:38 AM Richard Trigaux Hmmmm...
So there was no error or malfunction of ... Dec 20 2005, 09:45 AM RNeuhaus QUOTE (Richard Trigaux @ Dec 20 2005, 04:45 A... Dec 20 2005, 03:16 PM Richard Trigaux QUOTE (RNeuhaus @ Dec 20 2005, 03:16 PM)I agr... Dec 20 2005, 05:33 PM djellison ORRrr....
Design them with the ability to navigat... Dec 20 2005, 10:05 AM djellison I went and found the orig MSSS image, got the IMG,... Dec 20 2005, 10:58 AM Bjorn Jonsson QUOTE (djellison @ Dec 20 2005, 10:58 AM)I we... Dec 20 2005, 02:35 PM edstrick It's a good candidate for the remains. Better... Dec 20 2005, 11:03 AM djellison Data from http://www.msss.com/moc_gallery/r16_r21/... Dec 20 2005, 11:47 AM tedstryk I am not buying it, although I will suspend judgme... Dec 20 2005, 06:36 PM Decepticon I bet it landed OK but did not function due to tec... Dec 20 2005, 01:29 PM Phil Stooke Nice image processing, Doug - or 'the other Ph... Dec 20 2005, 01:38 PM JRehling QUOTE (Phil Stooke @ Dec 20 2005, 05:38 AM)I ... Dec 20 2005, 05:25 PM mcaplinger QUOTE (Phil Stooke @ Dec 20 2005, 05:38 AM)I ... Dec 21 2005, 09:58 PM Sunspot I dont think you've read the news report corre... Dec 20 2005, 06:47 PM tedstryk QUOTE (Sunspot @ Dec 20 2005, 06:47 PM)I dont... Dec 21 2005, 03:56 AM ljk4-1 QUOTE (tedstryk @ Dec 20 2005, 10:56 PM)I am ... Dec 21 2005, 04:59 AM djellison I agree - it's not much and certainly far from... Dec 20 2005, 09:10 PM RNeuhaus I was not aware of Beagle 2 mission. After reading... Dec 20 2005, 09:24 PM BruceMoomaw This was always regarded by engineers before the l... Dec 20 2005, 09:58 PM AstronomíaOnline.com The Search For Beagle 2
http://www.beagle2.com
T... Dec 21 2005, 03:11 AM BruceMoomaw Given how close MER-A (I refuse to use that cornba... Dec 21 2005, 08:30 AM mcaplinger QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Dec 21 2005, 12:30 AM)I ... Dec 21 2005, 04:40 PM JRehling QUOTE (mcaplinger @ Dec 21 2005, 08:40 AM)I b... Dec 22 2005, 02:44 PM The Messenger QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Dec 21 2005, 01:30 AM)I ... Dec 22 2005, 09:01 PM ljk4-1 The news that Beagle 2 may have been spotted on th... Dec 23 2005, 01:31 AM mcaplinger QUOTE (The Messenger @ Dec 22 2005, 01:01 PM)... Dec 23 2005, 07:51 PM The Messenger QUOTE (mcaplinger @ Dec 23 2005, 12:51 PM)A c... Dec 27 2005, 04:37 PM Sunspot If i'm remembering this correctly, and it was ... Dec 21 2005, 10:29 AM djellison Unfortunately, only the data sets for EDL are out,... Dec 21 2005, 10:54 AM Nix Is it me or is there a radial pattern of dark stre... Dec 21 2005, 04:19 PM Sunspot QUOTE (NIX @ Dec 21 2005, 04:19 PM)Is it me o... Dec 21 2005, 06:14 PM Nix Also, every similar crater in the area doesn't... Dec 21 2005, 04:34 PM Nix Thanks Sunspot.
Nico Dec 21 2005, 08:29 PM ugordan If this crater indeed turns out to be Beagle's... Dec 21 2005, 09:38 PM Sunspot It was originaly suspected that the crater visible... Dec 21 2005, 10:35 PM mcaplinger QUOTE (Sunspot @ Dec 21 2005, 02:35 PM)The fo... Dec 21 2005, 10:44 PM Sunspot Take a look at slide 5 on the Beagle website:
Al... Dec 21 2005, 10:49 PM RNeuhaus I am still not convinced about the Beagle 2's ... Dec 21 2005, 10:53 PM djellison MRO will be able to identify the airbags if they a... Dec 21 2005, 10:56 PM djellison Helen just found this....
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/w... Dec 22 2005, 11:43 AM nprev QUOTE (djellison @ Dec 22 2005, 04:43 AM)Hele... Dec 23 2005, 04:24 AM djellison Dont forget the equiv. prop mass of the RAD and TI... Dec 22 2005, 02:48 PM BruceMoomaw Oh, gadfry, Messenger, are you still peddling that... Dec 23 2005, 06:46 AM ljk4-1 QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Dec 23 2005, 01:46 AM)An... Dec 23 2005, 03:26 PM RNeuhaus QUOTE (ljk4-1 @ Dec 23 2005, 10:26 AM)I ... Dec 23 2005, 04:45 PM BruceMoomaw I should add that the Polar Lander failure report ... Dec 23 2005, 06:49 AM edstrick Note that the Viking landers directly measured the... Dec 23 2005, 09:15 AM djellison Messenger's gravity 'thing' has appear... Dec 23 2005, 10:02 AM PhilCo126 Well, I cannot make up anything from the images an... Dec 23 2005, 10:56 AM RNeuhaus Thanks to The Messenger for the references which a... Dec 27 2005, 04:44 PM PhilCo126 Talking about spacecraft that kept working...
I be... Dec 27 2005, 04:47 PM tedstryk It would have been interesting, had MGS been in an... Feb 21 2006, 05:21 PM BruceMoomaw Yep. The rover was also programmed, if it didn... Dec 27 2005, 10:28 PM lyford Bruce, you just blew out my anthropomorphometer... Dec 28 2005, 01:42 AM Sunspot Just a hypothetical thought here - but say for exa... Dec 31 2005, 01:11 PM RNeuhaus It might be. However, up to now, we are not wearin... Dec 31 2005, 09:49 PM PhilCo126 Don't know if You all noticed the redesign of ... Feb 21 2006, 04:51 PM djellison Sojourner was on 459.7 MHz, and MGS Relay is on 40... Feb 21 2006, 08:47 PM |
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