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Dec 21 2005, 10:39 PM
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Acidic water or volcanoes / impacts? The debate is on! I kind of like this actually, for my birthday today (39 now, getting old)....
Updates regarding this today from Nature, CU and Space.com: The Waters Ran Shallow http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v438/...e051222-10.html Mars Region Probably Less Watery In Past Than Thought, Says Study http://www.colorado.edu/news/releases/2005/470.html New Studies Question Mars Water Assumptions http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/051221_mars_dry.html Regardless though of whether they are correct or not regarding the acidic sulphate deposits in these scenarios, the earlier clays are still another matter...! The Space.com article includes comments from Squyres (who it says was not contacted prior to the article being published): "Squyres said a deeper understanding of the situation came when Opportunity examined Endurance Crater, where observations were made of 25 vertical feet of rock outcrops. Those results were published just a month ago, after the two Nature papers had been submitted. Knauth, McCollom and Hynek "hadn't seen that stuff when they wrote their papers," Squyres said. The nature of the layering and grain sizes deeper inside Endurance Crater "is absolutely incompatible with a volcanic or impact origin," Squyres said. It is "completely compatible" with the idea of windblown material, and the upper meter or so "shows evidence for deposition of water. The chemistry varies with depth in a way that requires that subsurface liquid water interacted with the rocks after they were deposited." Squyres emphasized that his team has always thought the water was mostly underground, occasionally creating small surface lakes that evaporated quickly. Squyres also stressed that nobody has done anything other than good science with the data available. "It's always good to have alternative hypotheses," he said. "In the end, the best ideas win. It forces everybody to go back and sharpen their arguments. All of this is a good thing." |
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Mar 8 2006, 02:42 PM
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![]() Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 510 Joined: 17-March 05 From: Southeast Michigan Member No.: 209 |
I've been daydreaming along the same lines, that someday my great-grandchildren might hike the Spirit Interpretive Trail in Gusev Planetary Park. Hopefully they'll be able to keep the tacky tourist shops to a minimum. Though if I'm still alive, I wouldn't mind getting a "My Grandkids went to Gusev and all I got was this lousy T-Shirt" shirt
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paulanderson The Great Meridiani Debate Dec 21 2005, 10:39 PM
tty Volcanic ash layers I might believe in. But they w... Dec 21 2005, 11:31 PM
sranderson Odd that people are still wondering if there was e... Dec 22 2005, 04:17 AM
paulanderson QUOTE (sranderson @ Dec 21 2005, 08:17 PM)And... Dec 22 2005, 07:34 AM
BruceMoomaw I've been engaged in an E-mail exchange with B... Dec 22 2005, 06:14 AM
CosmicRocker AlexBlackwell started a similar thread in the Mars... Dec 22 2005, 06:17 AM
nprev I agree that it's both interesting and positiv... Dec 22 2005, 06:44 AM
nprev ...and on that last note, what do you think of per... Dec 22 2005, 06:49 AM
Sunspot Take a look at spacetoday.net, this new theory is ... Dec 22 2005, 09:43 AM
paulanderson QUOTE (Sunspot @ Dec 22 2005, 01:43 AM)Take a... Dec 22 2005, 06:28 PM
edstrick The sulfate enriched and altered rocks and the sul... Dec 22 2005, 10:54 AM
abalone http://www.spaceflightnow.com/news/n0512/21marswat... Dec 22 2005, 12:25 PM
dvandorn There has been a definite "movement" out... Dec 22 2005, 12:58 PM
abalone QUOTE (dvandorn @ Dec 22 2005, 11:58 PM)I... Dec 23 2005, 08:30 AM
nprev QUOTE (abalone @ Dec 23 2005, 01:30 AM)My rec... Dec 23 2005, 08:38 AM

nprev A little more on the post-volcanic freeze-out scen... Dec 23 2005, 08:53 AM
paulanderson QUOTE (abalone @ Dec 23 2005, 12:30 AM)My rec... Dec 23 2005, 09:48 AM
tty QUOTE (abalone @ Dec 23 2005, 10:30 AM)The gl... Dec 23 2005, 05:43 PM
nprev QUOTE (tty @ Dec 23 2005, 10:43 AM)Imagine th... Dec 24 2005, 01:28 AM
Bill Harris Ah, the side-road of the brine-splat speculation.
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CosmicRocker I just got the publications today, but I haven... Dec 23 2005, 06:10 AM
Burmese It must be a frustrating position to be in to prod... Dec 23 2005, 01:39 PM
helvick QUOTE (Burmese @ Dec 23 2005, 02:39 PM)It mus... Dec 23 2005, 02:06 PM
paulanderson I received an interesting e-mail this morning from... Dec 23 2005, 08:28 PM
tty These ASU people are positively dotty:
QUOTE Impa... Dec 23 2005, 11:02 PM
Bill Harris Looking at this data on a day-to-day basis we (her... Dec 24 2005, 12:24 AM
CosmicRocker I'm trying to keep an open mind, but it sure s... Dec 24 2005, 05:11 AM
paulanderson QUOTE (CosmicRocker @ Dec 23 2005, 09:11 PM)B... Dec 24 2005, 05:28 AM
CosmicRocker Oh man, I'm way behind on the clay stuff. Tha... Dec 24 2005, 05:41 AM
BruceMoomaw The important thing to keep in mind is that ALL th... Dec 24 2005, 08:11 AM
BruceMoomaw If you REALLY like irony: the landing site picked ... Dec 24 2005, 08:18 AM
Myran QUOTE CosmicRocker said: But the people who wrote ... Dec 24 2005, 09:15 AM
sranderson QUOTE (Myran @ Dec 24 2005, 03:15 AM)Sorry fo... Dec 24 2005, 08:42 PM
edstrick Note that from the Mariner 9 discovery of outflow ... Dec 24 2005, 10:12 AM
BruceMoomaw One -- but only one -- of the articles on MER-B... Dec 24 2005, 10:48 AM
AlexBlackwell QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Dec 24 2005, 10:48 A... Mar 8 2006, 12:11 AM
Shaka QUOTE (AlexBlackwell @ Mar 7 2006, 02:11 ... Mar 8 2006, 12:47 AM
AlexBlackwell QUOTE (Shaka @ Mar 8 2006, 12:47 AM) I ha... Mar 8 2006, 12:49 AM
CosmicRocker Yep. We have got to see more of the section. The... Dec 27 2005, 07:43 AM
BillyMER QUOTE (CosmicRocker @ Dec 27 2005, 02:43 ... Mar 8 2006, 12:52 AM
Shaka QUOTE (BillyMER @ Mar 7 2006, 02:52 PM) I... Mar 8 2006, 01:15 AM
BillyMER QUOTE (Shaka @ Mar 7 2006, 08:15 PM) Heck... Mar 8 2006, 01:46 AM
Shaka QUOTE (BillyMER @ Mar 7 2006, 03:46 PM) y... Mar 8 2006, 02:01 AM
Reckless I think debate might have some impact on the sampl... Dec 27 2005, 10:58 AM
Bill Harris We do need to see more of the section, but this is... Dec 27 2005, 11:10 AM
djellison I'd rather Spirit and Opportunity stayed over ... Mar 8 2006, 08:38 AM![]() ![]() |
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