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 Dec 24 2005, 01:24 AM
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Do they actually think they can SELL this? Even to this Congress? (Actually, I don't think they really do.) |
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David, the crews of American manned spacecraft *have* had more autonomous capacity to make decisions than you give credit for. As you pointed out, during lunar landing operations, there was a point that even Gene Kranz and Chris Kraft called "the place where control shifts from the ground to the spacecraft." This has also always been true during docking operations and EVA operations -- the crew on the scene has made the decisions, and informed Houston of them later.
Now, the Soviets (and later the Russians) have always had more of a control-freak mindset, starting with the lockout of manual controls on the early Vostoks and ending with the famous poster that hangs in Korolev Mission Control today, showing station crewmen as puppets being controlled by strings emanating from the flight control station. -the other Doug -------------------- “The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right.” -Mark Twain
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BruceMoomaw Nasa's New Budget Graph For The Bush Initiative... Dec 24 2005, 01:24 AM
nprev (sigh)....No, but wouldn't it be nice.... Dec 24 2005, 02:41 AM dvandorn I don't really know that NASA can sell this --... Dec 24 2005, 02:59 AM Tom Ames QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Dec 23 2005, 08:24 PM)ht... Dec 24 2005, 06:01 AM BruceMoomaw It's also bad for the human spirit to reduce p... Dec 24 2005, 07:58 AM
nprev QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Dec 24 2005, 12:58 AM)It... Dec 24 2005, 10:03 AM David QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Dec 24 2005, 07:58 AM)Pa... Dec 24 2005, 12:40 PM ElkGroveDan QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Dec 24 2005, 07:58 AM)It... Dec 25 2005, 11:03 PM
ljk4-1 QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Dec 24 2005, 02:58 AM)It... Dec 25 2005, 11:07 PM nprev The "boring as hell" aspect of the Moon ... Dec 24 2005, 10:34 PM David QUOTE (nprev @ Dec 24 2005, 10:34 PM)Apollo w... Dec 25 2005, 01:17 AM JRehling QUOTE (David @ Dec 24 2005, 05:17 PM)As it wa... Dec 25 2005, 03:50 AM ljk4-1 QUOTE (JRehling @ Dec 24 2005, 10:50 PM)In te... Dec 25 2005, 04:03 AM djellison I think it's quite obvious that NASA isnt goin... Dec 24 2005, 10:37 PM JRehling QUOTE (djellison @ Dec 24 2005, 02:37 PM)I th... Dec 25 2005, 04:05 AM BruceMoomaw I'll have to review the details; but Luna 15 w... Dec 25 2005, 04:22 AM BruceMoomaw It should also be noted that -- while they may hav... Dec 25 2005, 04:24 AM dvandorn A few comments...
Bruce and JRehling, most of the... Dec 25 2005, 07:34 AM ljk4-1 QUOTE (dvandorn @ Dec 25 2005, 02:34 AM)A few... Dec 26 2005, 07:49 AM nprev Gentlemen, your excellent responses still support ... Dec 25 2005, 08:21 AM dvandorn Yes, framing the issues is important. That's ... Dec 25 2005, 07:13 PM nprev QUOTE (dvandorn @ Dec 25 2005, 12:13 PM)Yes, ... Dec 25 2005, 09:51 PM dvandorn One of the problems in using the argument "pe... Dec 26 2005, 05:11 AM ljk4-1 QUOTE (dvandorn @ Dec 26 2005, 12:11 AM)One o... Dec 26 2005, 06:37 AM BruceMoomaw QUOTE (dvandorn @ Dec 26 2005, 05:11 AM)One o... Dec 26 2005, 09:31 AM BruceMoomaw LJK 4-1: "As much as I think that by the time... Dec 26 2005, 09:44 AM nprev I absolutely understand and agree with the premise... Dec 26 2005, 10:47 AM Bob Shaw Bruce:
A Surveyor-based Lunar sample return missi... Dec 27 2005, 10:30 PM Bob Shaw One of the things which has been most frustrating ... Dec 27 2005, 11:44 PM The Messenger Perhaps a good compromise would be a obscenely ex... Dec 27 2005, 04:10 PM dvandorn Exactly! I hear so much talk about how the IS... Dec 27 2005, 04:23 PM BruceMoomaw You completely miss the point about the ISS -- whi... Dec 27 2005, 10:12 PM Betelgeuze Ive been watching this forum for a long time now a... Dec 27 2005, 11:36 PM David I don't expect this idea to be popular here (o... Dec 28 2005, 12:31 AM nprev As far as astronauts screwing things up goes...one... Dec 28 2005, 03:04 AM David QUOTE (nprev @ Dec 28 2005, 03:04 AM)As far a... Dec 28 2005, 01:09 PM BruceMoomaw David's extremely interesting note is ultimate... Dec 28 2005, 11:37 PM dvandorn The problem with giving the crew the *sole* call o... Dec 28 2005, 11:40 PM Bob Shaw A couple of points:
Firstly, the ex-Soviet 'r... Dec 29 2005, 12:15 AM |
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