A Real Sun Probe, Take the Solar Plunge |
![]() ![]() |
A Real Sun Probe, Take the Solar Plunge |
| Guest_Sunspot_* |
Jul 27 2010, 07:54 PM
Post
#61
|
|
Guests |
Cool
We can never have too many solar missions |
|
|
|
Sep 3 2010, 12:39 AM
Post
#62
|
|
![]() Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 515 Joined: 25-October 05 From: California Member No.: 535 |
A new article on Solar Probe Plus... 5 science instruments have been selected for the mission
http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/scien...2010/02sep_spp/ So will NASA or The Planetary Society have a "Send Your Name to the Sun" campaign before the launch in 2018? -------------------- 2011 JPL Tweetup photos: http://www.rich-parno.com/aa_jpltweetup.html
http://human-spaceflight.blogspot.com |
|
|
|
Sep 3 2010, 03:45 AM
Post
#63
|
|
|
Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1101 Joined: 14-October 05 From: Seattle Member No.: 530 |
Actually only four instruments mentioned, but radio science isn't mentioned, so that might as well be a 5th.
|
|
|
|
Sep 19 2010, 08:57 PM
Post
#64
|
|
|
Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 738 Joined: 5-March 05 From: Boulder, CO Member No.: 184 |
What is the highest level of albedo that's been achieved with metals on Earth? If a shield had 100% reflectivity (impossible I know but theoretically), would that solve all heating problems, or does the albedo vary for different types of electromagnetic radiation? At least in visible light silver is pretty high (somewhere above 90%). Dielectric coatings can use interference to make reflectivity even higher. More info here on reflectivity of coatings: http://www.optosigma.com/miva/merchant.mv?...ection+Coatings What is being used on the shield in the solar probe design? -------------------- Steve [ my planetary maps page ]
|
|
|
|
Sep 20 2010, 05:52 AM
Post
#65
|
|
|
Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1101 Joined: 14-October 05 From: Seattle Member No.: 530 |
What is being used on the shield in the solar probe design? I was determined to find the answer to this seemingly simple question. Judging from the document, they're hedging their bets for prototype build and testing, but it will likely be 15cm of carbon-carbon with a coating of aluminum oxide or pyrolytic boron nitride. Page 58/146 marked as 3-42 of this: http://solarprobe.gsfc.nasa.gov/SolarProbe+ME.pdf QUOTE As part of the TPS Risk Mitigation effort, two potential ceramic coatings were found that met the requirements of the Solar Probe+ mission. Ceramic materials that are visibly white generally provide the optical characteristics compatible with the proposed shield passive thermal management strategy. These characteristics are low solar absorptivity and high IR emissivity. Thermodynamic stability and chemical compatibility with C-C are additional differentiators that further narrow the list of candidate ceramics. At the end of the study, both aluminum oxide (Al2O3), commonly called alumina, and pyrolytic boron nitride (PBN) were found to notionally satisfy these basic characteristics. Plenty more in there. |
|
|
|
Sep 20 2010, 06:05 AM
Post
#66
|
|
|
Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1101 Joined: 14-October 05 From: Seattle Member No.: 530 |
If it actually gets funded, it should also give us a nice Jupiter bonus. In reading about the thermal shield, I've just noticed the new mission has a perihelion that is farther than the original plan, and incidentally an aphelion at 1 AU. So no Jupiter flyby. They dumped the RTGs that would've provided power out there as well. A good point mentioned in the report is that by lowering the perihelion gradually with aphelion TCMs, they have time to learn to manage the spacecraft before getting closer. Jupiter would no doubt have sent it right in. |
|
|
|
Sep 21 2010, 07:22 AM
Post
#67
|
|
![]() Newbie ![]() Group: Members Posts: 15 Joined: 29-May 08 From: Seattle, USA Member No.: 4162 |
Actually only four instruments mentioned, but radio science isn't mentioned, so that might as well be a 5th. The linked article mentions five instruments; the ISIS investigation uses two instruments, EPI-hi and EPI-lo, presumably to measure particles at different energies. It also discusses five investigations that have been funded, the fifth one being a project scientist that won't fly with the spacecraft. Obviously. |
|
|
|
| Guest_Sunspot_* |
Sep 30 2010, 10:55 PM
Post
#68
|
|
Guests |
More on one of the instruments
http://www.spaceref.com/news/viewpr.html?p...rce=twitter.com Wide-field Imager Selected for Solar Probe Plus Mission |
|
|
|
Oct 5 2011, 05:51 PM
Post
#69
|
|
|
Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 118 Joined: 18-November 07 Member No.: 3964 |
Solar Orbiter is selected as ESA's first M-class mission:
Europe to lead daring Sun mission |
|
|
|
Oct 5 2011, 05:55 PM
Post
#70
|
|
![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1146 Joined: 3-August 06 From: 43° 35' 53" N 1° 26' 35" E Member No.: 1004 |
selected again, you mean. I don't want to get into politics, but Solar Orbiter has been on and off several times at ESA and was first selected as a medium mission in the early 2000s...
-------------------- I'm one of the most durable and fervent advocates of space exploration, but my take is that we could do it robotically at far less cost and far greater quantity and quality of results.
James Van Allen |
|
|
|
Mar 8 2013, 09:56 PM
Post
#71
|
|
|
Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1101 Joined: 14-October 05 From: Seattle Member No.: 530 |
Solar Probe Plus mentioned in this interesting solar wind article:
http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/scien...8mar_solarwind/ Also mentioned is WIND, still trucking after almost 19 years... |
|
|
|
![]() ![]() |
|
Lo-Fi Version | Time is now: 20th May 2013 - 06:17 AM |
|
RULES AND GUIDELINES Please read the Forum Rules and Guidelines before posting. IMAGE COPYRIGHT |
OPINIONS AND MODERATION Opinions expressed on UnmannedSpaceflight.com are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily reflect the opinions of UnmannedSpaceflight.com or The Planetary Society. The all-volunteer UnmannedSpaceflight.com moderation team is wholly independent of The Planetary Society. The Planetary Society has no influence over decisions made by the UnmannedSpaceflight.com moderators. |
SUPPORT THE FORUM Unmannedspaceflight.com is a project of the Planetary Society and is funded by donations from visitors and members. Help keep this forum up and running by contributing here. |
|