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Interesting Viewpoint On Science By Carolyn Porco
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post Jan 4 2006, 06:06 AM
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post Jan 4 2006, 08:52 PM
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Oh, and FYI, the statement that all cultures have found and described the *same* Mathematics is not true. All human Mathematics consisted of means of counting things for many, many generations, and as such they did not use placement notation or have any symbol (i.e., "word") for the value *zero*. If you had nothing, you had no need for a symbol to denote it. That was a very basic assumption of Mathematics in almost all human civilizations -- up until the Arabs.

The Arabs stumbled upon the concept of using a Mathematical term for "nothing" and found that it allowed them to *vastly* extend the ability of Mathematics to describe the world around them.

Also, many early European civilizations used base 12 and not base 10 counting systems -- the usefulness of counting by dozens outweighed the usefulness of being able to count up any number of things on your fingers.

So, you see, not all civilizations have come to the same conclusions and used the same assumptions when it comes to the language of Mathematics. They have used different assumptions and had culturally colored views of the usefulness and extent of the language of Mathematics, as varied as the cultures themselves.

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- hendric   Interesting Viewpoint On Science By Carolyn Porco   Jan 4 2006, 06:06 AM
- - ustrax   QUOTE (hendric @ Jan 4 2006, 06:06 AM)http://...   Jan 4 2006, 09:33 AM
- - Richard Trigaux   This article is certainly thought-provoking and en...   Jan 4 2006, 10:30 AM
- - dvandorn   Ah, but Richard, science *does* offer us a sense o...   Jan 4 2006, 06:21 PM
|- - ljk4-1   "I have a terrible need of - shall I say the ...   Jan 4 2006, 06:45 PM
|- - Richard Trigaux   QUOTE (dvandorn @ Jan 4 2006, 06:21 PM)Ah, bu...   Jan 4 2006, 07:02 PM
- - dvandorn   Ah, but mathematics do *not* exist independently o...   Jan 4 2006, 07:33 PM
- - Richard Trigaux   hmmmm... dvandorn, I think we should first settl...   Jan 4 2006, 08:10 PM
|- - dvandorn   QUOTE (Richard Trigaux @ Jan 4 2006, 02:10 PM...   Jan 4 2006, 08:41 PM
|- - Richard Trigaux   QUOTE (dvandorn @ Jan 4 2006, 08:41 PM)Let...   Jan 4 2006, 09:00 PM
|- - dvandorn   QUOTE (Richard Trigaux @ Jan 4 2006, 03:00 PM...   Jan 4 2006, 09:29 PM
- - dvandorn   Oh, and FYI, the statement that all cultures have ...   Jan 4 2006, 08:52 PM
|- - tty   QUOTE (dvandorn @ Jan 4 2006, 10:52 PM)Oh, an...   Jan 4 2006, 09:25 PM
|- - dvandorn   QUOTE (tty @ Jan 4 2006, 03:25 PM)What exampl...   Jan 4 2006, 09:32 PM
|- - tty   QUOTE (dvandorn @ Jan 4 2006, 11:32 PM)Old Ge...   Jan 4 2006, 10:00 PM
|- - Bob Shaw   I grew up using old UK currency - 4 Farthings = ...   Jan 4 2006, 10:53 PM
- - Richard Trigaux   In my novels The world of Dumria the guies live on...   Jan 5 2006, 09:49 AM
- - ljk4-1   How about this combination of religion and cosmona...   Jan 6 2006, 08:17 PM


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