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Rev 20 Iapetus Non-targeted Jan 25,06, Flyby Discussion
Decepticon
post Jan 4 2006, 06:16 PM
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Here's what extrapolating the current SPICE kernels yields:

IAPETUS 2005 NOV 12 14:34:49 185078153 415,451 km arcmin=12.1
IAPETUS 2006 JAN 25 21:13:08 191495653 873,345 km arcmin=5.7

IAPETUS 2006 APR 11 17:16:28 198047853 602,419 km arcmin=8.3
IAPETUS 2007 SEP 10 12:31:28 242699553 1,259 km arcmin=2186.8

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This time a little further out.

Jan. 2006 - 879,000 km - 5.3 km/pixel - eastern Cassini Region and transition zone, part ofthe "moat" posted by VP


If anyone has made a animation of the encounter please post it!
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Rob Pinnegar
post Jan 11 2006, 02:24 PM
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The notion posted above, regarding Hyperion's deep craters acting as crude "mirrors" that could focus sunlight on the dark spots, is a very interesting one.

We need to keep in mind that the crater walls are not smooth surfaces and this will of course decrease any such effects. Also, Hyperion's craters seem to have cone-like shapes, which suggests to me that they might preferentially reflect sunlight straight back into space (much like the laser reflectors left behind by Apollo).

I haven't looked at any shots of Hyperion recently -- are there any for which the Sun was almost directly "behind" Cassini when the picture was taken? If so, it might be interesting to look at the apparent brightness of the craters, to see if they are reflecting an inordinate amount of light back towards the Sun. If they aren't, this notion of ray-focussing on the dark crater floors might really have something to it.

I know this is a bit off topic for the Iapetus thread -- however, it's perhaps arguable that _anything_ regarding dark material on Saturn's icy moons, is at least partially on topic where Iapetus is concerned.
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post Jan 11 2006, 02:51 PM
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It seems to me thermal conditions on Hyperion's dark stuff aren't that similar to those on Iapetus. While both have dark, heat-absorbing materials, keep in mind that Iapetus has a several times longer day and any material is going to be more efficiently "baked" than the stuff on the bottom of Hyperion's craters.

As far as the craters on Hyperion acting as crude mirrors, that idea reminds me somewhat of the chicken-and-the-egg problem. You'd need dark stuff so it melts through the craters, leaving them bowl-shaped. And yet, this idea suggests that their bowl-shaped appearance is responsible for the darkening in the first place. Lastly, I reckon the craters should be pretty steep not to reflect the majority of the diffuse light back into space.


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- Decepticon   Rev 20 Iapetus Non-targeted Jan 25,06   Jan 4 2006, 06:16 PM
- - Decepticon   If possible can a MOD fix my date I put 15th inste...   Jan 4 2006, 06:20 PM
- - volcanopele   Fixed   Jan 4 2006, 07:20 PM
- - Decepticon   Sorry I sould have said in topic heading, the enco...   Jan 4 2006, 08:59 PM
|- - volcanopele   QUOTE (Decepticon @ Jan 4 2006, 01:59 PM)Sorr...   Jan 4 2006, 09:07 PM
- - jmknapp   QUOTE (Decepticon @ Jan 4 2006, 02:16 PM)If a...   Jan 5 2006, 04:30 PM
- - Bjorn Jonsson   QUOTE (Decepticon @ Jan 4 2006, 06:16 PM)If a...   Jan 5 2006, 04:57 PM
|- - TritonAntares   Here the planned ISS-observations between january ...   Jan 8 2006, 09:25 PM
|- - TritonAntares   Some additional information: Start UTC __________...   Jan 8 2006, 11:56 PM
- - scalbers   Speaking of Iapetus maps, I'm fine-tuning an u...   Jan 9 2006, 07:42 PM
- - Decepticon   Very Nice!   Jan 10 2006, 12:30 AM
|- - Michael Capobianco   Yes, this map shows the dotted line north of the m...   Jan 10 2006, 01:07 AM
|- - JRehling   QUOTE (Michael Capobianco @ Jan 9 2006, 05:07...   Jan 10 2006, 02:22 AM
|- - jmknapp   QUOTE (JRehling @ Jan 9 2006, 10:22 PM)The re...   Jan 10 2006, 11:22 AM
||- - JRehling   QUOTE (jmknapp @ Jan 10 2006, 03:22 AM)The in...   Jan 10 2006, 07:39 PM
|- - scalbers   QUOTE (JRehling @ Jan 10 2006, 02:22 AM)Even ...   Jan 11 2006, 01:18 AM
||- - TritonAntares   QUOTE (scalbers @ Jan 11 2006, 03:18 AM)It lo...   Jan 11 2006, 11:05 AM
||- - JRehling   QUOTE (TritonAntares @ Jan 11 2006, 03:05 AM)...   Jan 12 2006, 05:49 AM
||- - Michael Capobianco   I spent an hour trying to make a stereo image from...   Jan 12 2006, 05:54 PM
|- - Tom Tamlyn   QUOTE (JRehling @ Jan 9 2006, 09:22 PM)A pure...   Jan 12 2006, 04:24 AM
- - BruceMoomaw   Well, during the planning for the primary mission ...   Jan 10 2006, 03:13 AM
- - alan   QUOTE (Michael Capobianco @ Jan 9 2006, 07:07...   Jan 10 2006, 04:20 AM
|- - Michael Capobianco   Very interesting explanation. I'm not convince...   Jan 10 2006, 07:03 PM
- - volcanopele   Another reasonable explanation for bright, polewar...   Jan 10 2006, 07:18 PM
|- - jmknapp   QUOTE (volcanopele @ Jan 10 2006, 03:18 PM)An...   Jan 10 2006, 07:46 PM
|- - volcanopele   QUOTE (jmknapp @ Jan 10 2006, 12:46 PM)Do you...   Jan 10 2006, 08:02 PM
|- - jmknapp   QUOTE (volcanopele @ Jan 10 2006, 04:02 PM)Ga...   Jan 13 2006, 02:16 PM
- - elakdawalla   I listened to a couple of talks at DPS that had be...   Jan 10 2006, 07:58 PM
|- - The Messenger   QUOTE (elakdawalla @ Jan 10 2006, 12:58 PM)I ...   Jan 10 2006, 10:18 PM
|- - tasp   QUOTE (elakdawalla @ Jan 10 2006, 01:58 PM)I ...   Jan 11 2006, 12:36 AM
- - Rob Pinnegar   The notion posted above, regarding Hyperion's ...   Jan 11 2006, 02:24 PM
|- - ugordan   It seems to me thermal conditions on Hyperion...   Jan 11 2006, 02:51 PM
||- - JRehling   QUOTE (ugordan @ Jan 11 2006, 06:51 AM)As far...   Jan 11 2006, 09:27 PM
|- - jmknapp   QUOTE (Rob Pinnegar @ Jan 11 2006, 10:24 AM)T...   Jan 12 2006, 01:41 PM
|- - JRehling   QUOTE (jmknapp @ Jan 12 2006, 05:41 AM)Rather...   Jan 12 2006, 03:02 PM
- - alan   QUOTE Forgive me, but I'm having a little trou...   Jan 12 2006, 05:05 AM
|- - Tom Tamlyn   QUOTE (alan @ Jan 12 2006, 12:05 AM)CR = Cass...   Jan 13 2006, 03:37 AM
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|- - JRehling   QUOTE (tasp @ Jan 12 2006, 07:34 AM)In regard...   Jan 12 2006, 06:08 PM
- - BruceMoomaw   QUOTE (JRehling @ Jan 12 2006, 06:08 PM)Chaot...   Jan 13 2006, 12:37 PM
- - Phil Stooke   The supposed chaotic rotation of Hyperion was only...   Jan 13 2006, 01:09 PM
- - Rob Pinnegar   A couple of points: (1) Has anyone given much con...   Jan 13 2006, 04:00 PM
|- - ugordan   QUOTE (Rob Pinnegar @ Jan 13 2006, 05:00 PM)F...   Jan 14 2006, 11:00 PM
|- - JRehling   QUOTE (Rob Pinnegar @ Jan 13 2006, 08:00 AM)A...   Jan 16 2006, 06:50 PM
|- - TritonAntares   Here some info about the transmission times - name...   Jan 20 2006, 12:32 AM
|- - Rob Pinnegar   QUOTE (JRehling @ Jan 16 2006, 12:50 PM)I can...   Jan 20 2006, 11:47 PM
|- - tasp   QUOTE (Rob Pinnegar @ Jan 20 2006, 05:47 PM)B...   Jan 21 2006, 06:53 AM
|- - Rob Pinnegar   QUOTE (tasp @ Jan 21 2006, 12:53 AM)Possibly ...   Jan 21 2006, 04:34 PM
- - hubdel11   Let's go ! http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/mult...   Jan 21 2006, 06:40 PM
- - Decepticon   Looks like something whizzed by the camera on this...   Jan 21 2006, 07:27 PM
|- - ugordan   QUOTE (Decepticon @ Jan 21 2006, 08:27 PM)Loo...   Jan 21 2006, 07:33 PM
|- - TritonAntares   Two new Iapetus images released. Here is one: ...   Jan 23 2006, 10:46 PM
|- - TritonAntares   Another series of 49 Iapetus images has been relea...   Jan 24 2006, 11:11 PM
|- - ugordan   Check out this Jan 24 image from 954 000 km. What ...   Jan 25 2006, 07:04 PM
|- - TritonAntares   QUOTE (ugordan @ Jan 25 2006, 09:04 PM)Check ...   Jan 25 2006, 07:50 PM
|- - TritonAntares   13 new Iapetus images released; one takeout: Date...   Jan 26 2006, 08:12 PM
|- - jmknapp   QUOTE (TritonAntares @ Jan 26 2006, 04:12 PM)...   Jan 27 2006, 03:26 PM
|- - TritonAntares   QUOTE (jmknapp @ Jan 27 2006, 05:26 PM)In pol...   Jan 27 2006, 05:06 PM
|- - nprev   QUOTE (TritonAntares @ Jan 27 2006, 10:06 AM)...   Jan 28 2006, 06:31 AM
||- - tasp   QUOTE (nprev @ Jan 28 2006, 12:31 AM)Iapetus ...   Jan 29 2006, 03:34 AM
||- - TritonAntares   QUOTE (nprev @ Jan 28 2006, 08:31 AM)Is that ...   Jan 29 2006, 10:24 PM
||- - nprev   QUOTE (TritonAntares @ Jan 29 2006, 03:24 PM)...   Jan 29 2006, 10:50 PM
||- - TritonAntares   QUOTE (nprev @ Jan 30 2006, 12:50 AM)Whups...   Jan 30 2006, 12:46 AM
||- - TritonAntares   Another 13 Iapetus cresents released... Two takeo...   Jan 30 2006, 08:57 AM
||- - Rob Pinnegar   QUOTE (TritonAntares @ Jan 29 2006, 06:46 PM)...   Jan 30 2006, 03:17 PM
||- - TritonAntares   QUOTE (Rob Pinnegar @ Jan 30 2006, 05:17 PM)T...   Jan 30 2006, 03:41 PM
|- - jmknapp   QUOTE (TritonAntares @ Jan 27 2006, 01:06 PM)...   Jan 28 2006, 11:52 AM
|- - TritonAntares   Another 13 new Iapetus images released... Two ta...   Jan 29 2006, 05:30 PM
||- - Rob Pinnegar   QUOTE (TritonAntares @ Jan 29 2006, 11:30 AM)...   Jan 29 2006, 05:49 PM
|- - TritonAntares   QUOTE (jmknapp @ Jan 28 2006, 01:52 PM)... I...   Feb 2 2006, 08:17 PM
||- - TritonAntares   Greuti - a member of a german forum - kindly simul...   Feb 3 2006, 11:40 AM
||- - Tman   QUOTE (TritonAntares @ Feb 3 2006, 12:40 PM)G...   Feb 3 2006, 08:25 PM
|- - TritonAntares   QUOTE (jmknapp @ Jan 28 2006, 12:52 PM) ....   Mar 7 2006, 02:23 AM
- - Decepticon   Can that area be associated with the Basin imaged ...   Jan 26 2006, 11:42 PM
|- - Rob Pinnegar   QUOTE (Decepticon @ Jan 26 2006, 05:42 PM)Can...   Jan 27 2006, 12:24 AM
|- - TritonAntares   QUOTE (Decepticon @ Jan 27 2006, 01:42 AM)Can...   Jan 27 2006, 01:02 AM
- - Decepticon   Hogland is gonna have a Hay Day with this. Last w...   Jan 28 2006, 05:04 AM
|- - nprev   QUOTE (Decepticon @ Jan 27 2006, 10:04 PM)Hog...   Jan 28 2006, 06:27 AM
- - Toma B   Here are images from latest non-targeted Iapetus f...   Jan 28 2006, 08:12 AM
- - Decepticon   Cool! I was waiting to see something like that...   Jan 28 2006, 08:18 AM
- - scalbers   Thanks to Toma in post #65 for that great montage....   Jan 28 2006, 09:17 PM
- - nprev   Tasp, you're too kind..thanks! Well, if...   Jan 29 2006, 06:09 AM
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|- - tasp   QUOTE (Toma B @ Jan 30 2006, 05:22 PM)Here is...   Jan 31 2006, 12:46 AM
|- - tasp   QUOTE (Toma B @ Jan 30 2006, 05:22 PM)Here is...   Jan 31 2006, 02:32 AM
|- - Rob Pinnegar   QUOTE (tasp @ Jan 30 2006, 08:32 PM)Is it pos...   Jan 31 2006, 03:53 PM
- - scalbers   Here's an Iapetus map update, including the 95...   Feb 1 2006, 12:11 AM
- - Decepticon   I got my fingers crossed for some saturnshine imag...   Mar 7 2006, 03:31 AM


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