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 Jan 5 2006, 05:57 PM
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Just got tipped off to this story
http://news.scotsman.com/scitech.cfm?id=16902006 Here is the paper http://www.uibk.ac.at/c/cb/cb26/heim/theor...sicsaip2005.pdf They could feasibly have a prototype within 5 years!!! Happy New Year indeed everyone. |
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Jan 6 2006, 01:52 AM
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QUOTE (Marslauncher @ Jan 5 2006, 05:57 PM) Just got tipped off to this story http://news.scotsman.com/scitech.cfm?id=16902006 Here is the paper http://www.uibk.ac.at/c/cb/cb26/heim/theor...sicsaip2005.pdf They could feasibly have a prototype within 5 years!!! Happy New Year indeed everyone. For more info, you might also want to check out: http://www.uibk.ac.at/c/cb/cb26/heim/ and especially: http://www.uibk.ac.at/c/cb/cb26/heim/theor.../raumfahrt.html ====== Stephen |
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Jan 6 2006, 02:31 AM
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My questions - assuming for a moment this method even has a chance of working.
* How would we know if another dimension/universe has a faster speed of light? * How would we find it with this method? * What if the dimension/universe in question does have a faster speed of light, but then that means its other physical laws don't jive with our own and the starship that tries it is either destroyed or stuck in this alternate dimension/universe? * If it does work, is this why we haven't seen ETI - they are all dimension-jumping in their starships? * What if there are beings who live in said dimension/universe who really don't like interlopers from other realities using their reality for a faster ride? This might also explain why we haven't seen ETI yet. Just once I'd like to see a theory of this kind that doesn't invoke the near-magical abilities of alternate dimensions or string physics or need the technology and energy requirements of a Kardashev Type 3 civilization. Or maybe we're still thinking Newtonian and everyone else in the galaxy has gone post-Einsteinian? -------------------- "After having some business dealings with men, I am occasionally chagrined,
and feel as if I had done some wrong, and it is hard to forget the ugly circumstance. I see that such intercourse long continued would make one thoroughly prosaic, hard, and coarse. But the longest intercourse with Nature, though in her rudest moods, does not thus harden and make coarse. A hard, sensible man whom we liken to a rock is indeed much harder than a rock. From hard, coarse, insensible men with whom I have no sympathy, I go to commune with the rocks, whose hearts are comparatively soft." - Henry David Thoreau, November 15, 1853 |
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Jan 6 2006, 10:43 AM
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QUOTE (ljk4-1 @ Jan 6 2006, 02:31 AM) * How would we know if another dimension/universe has a faster speed of light?  There is a short SF story (I forget who by) about this. The main character is convinced hyperspace exists, and that the government is covering up work on it. He gets to the heart of the secret project, to be told that yes, hyperspace does exist, and that the speed of light is much, much slower there.... Chris |
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Jan 7 2006, 09:05 PM
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QUOTE (chris @ Jan 6 2006, 02:43 AM) There is a short SF story (I forget who by) about this. The main character is convinced hyperspace exists, and that the government is covering up work on it. He gets to the heart of the secret project, to be told that yes, hyperspace does exist, and that the speed of light is much, much slower there.... George R.R. Martin, "FTA", Analog, 1974. -------------------- Disclaimer: This post is based on public information only. Any opinions are my own.
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Marslauncher Earth To Mars In 3hrs **no Joke** Jan 5 2006, 05:57 PM
Bill Harris Be careful... we don't want _them_ to find us.... Jan 5 2006, 06:22 PM ElkGroveDan QUOTE (Marslauncher @ Jan 5 2006, 05:57 PM)Th... Jan 5 2006, 06:24 PM Bob Shaw This is the subject of the lead article in the 7 J... Jan 5 2006, 06:26 PM
Bob Shaw I just had a brief look at the paper itself, which... Jan 5 2006, 06:43 PM Richard Trigaux This seems too nice to be true.
I read most of th... Jan 5 2006, 08:58 PM Decepticon "Sulu ahead warp factor 6...Engage!" Jan 5 2006, 09:11 PM RNeuhaus With this, we will be able to warp to follow to th... Jan 5 2006, 09:43 PM Richard Trigaux QUOTE (RNeuhaus @ Jan 5 2006, 09:43 PM)With t... Jan 6 2006, 07:06 AM RNeuhaus QUOTE (Richard Trigaux @ Jan 6 2006, 02:06 AM... Jan 6 2006, 04:32 PM ljk4-1 QUOTE (RNeuhaus @ Jan 6 2006, 11:32 AM)Many t... Jan 6 2006, 05:32 PM RNeuhaus QUOTE (ljk4-1 @ Jan 6 2006, 12:32 PM)A p... Jan 6 2006, 05:38 PM nprev A slim chance is better than none...and we really ... Jan 5 2006, 11:26 PM Richard Trigaux QUOTE (ljk4-1 @ Jan 6 2006, 02:31 AM)* H... Jan 6 2006, 06:46 AM deglr6328 Ughh. Is anyone else having visions of the Podklet... Jan 6 2006, 06:09 AM abalone We could use cold fusion to power it, but dont let... Jan 6 2006, 09:57 AM edstrick We *know* Einstein's relativity is incomplete.... Jan 6 2006, 10:40 AM abalone QUOTE (edstrick @ Jan 6 2006, 09:40 PM)We *kn... Jan 6 2006, 11:57 AM Richard Trigaux QUOTE (edstrick @ Jan 6 2006, 10:40 AM)We *kn... Jan 6 2006, 11:58 AM dvandorn I don't think we're barking up the right t... Jan 6 2006, 11:57 AM chris QUOTE (dvandorn @ Jan 6 2006, 11:57 AM)And, B... Jan 6 2006, 03:20 PM ljk4-1 QUOTE (chris @ Jan 6 2006, 10:20 AM)To say no... Jan 6 2006, 03:22 PM ljk4-1 Some major tidbits from the New Scientist article:... Jan 6 2006, 04:15 PM Bob Shaw QUOTE (ljk4-1 @ Jan 6 2006, 05:15 PM)So ... Jan 6 2006, 11:01 PM Bob Shaw QUOTE (ljk4-1 @ Jan 6 2006, 04:22 PM)May... Jan 6 2006, 10:52 PM ljk4-1 QUOTE (Bob Shaw @ Jan 6 2006, 05:52 PM)That j... Jan 7 2006, 02:37 AM nprev QUOTE (ljk4-1 @ Jan 6 2006, 07:37 PM)So ... Jan 7 2006, 03:11 AM Myran QUOTE Richard Trigaux said: "....although it ... Jan 6 2006, 02:33 PM Richard Trigaux QUOTE (Myran @ Jan 6 2006, 02:33 PM)You refer... Jan 6 2006, 04:35 PM nprev There certainly seems to be a confluence of both n... Jan 6 2006, 11:24 PM Richard Trigaux What disturbs me the most in this theory is not th... Jan 7 2006, 08:04 PM ljk4-1 QUOTE (Richard Trigaux @ Jan 7 2006, 03:04 PM... Jan 7 2006, 08:38 PM Richard Trigaux QUOTE (ljk4-1 @ Jan 7 2006, 08:38 PM)The... Jan 7 2006, 10:53 PM exoplanet QUOTE (Richard Trigaux @ Jan 7 2006, 08:04 PM... Jan 7 2006, 10:18 PM Richard Trigaux QUOTE (exoplanet @ Jan 7 2006, 10:18 PM)Exact... Jan 7 2006, 11:35 PM ljk4-1 Two Internet sources on Heim:
http://www.heim-the... Jan 8 2006, 04:28 PM RNeuhaus No matter what Heim's has published, I do beli... Jan 9 2006, 04:06 PM ljk4-1 The Centauri Dreams Web site has an article and li... Jan 9 2006, 06:44 PM Richard Trigaux To be noted in this:
Heim work may be false, we c... Jan 9 2006, 07:01 PM ljk4-1 Marc Millis on Hyperspace Propulsion
Centauri Dre... Jan 11 2006, 10:40 PM ljk4-1 General Relativity and Quantum Cosmology, abstract... Jan 16 2006, 06:03 PM Richard Trigaux An interesting test of Heim theories could come fr... Jan 22 2006, 10:25 AM Bob Shaw I thought that during the T-Tauri phase there *wer... Jan 22 2006, 02:53 PM ljk4-1 Astrophysics, abstract
astro-ph/0512117
From: Jos... Jan 30 2006, 07:26 PM ljk4-1 http://www.centauri-dreams.org/?p=541
On Travel C... Feb 14 2006, 05:56 PM ljk4-1 'Antigravity' Propulsion System Proposed
... Feb 16 2006, 07:14 PM Steffen As Carl Sagan always said ' 99% of the speed o... Feb 19 2006, 10:49 AM dilo Did someone noticed this article?
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Tha... Apr 22 2006, 04:05 PM ugordan QUOTE (dilo @ Apr 22 2006, 08:40 AM) cons... Apr 22 2006, 04:54 PM Richard Trigaux QUOTE (dilo @ Apr 22 2006, 07:40 AM) Did ... Apr 22 2006, 05:04 PM dilo QUOTE (Richard Trigaux @ Apr 22 2006, 05... Apr 23 2006, 09:35 PM Bob Shaw About the only vaguely feasible fast rocket system... Apr 23 2006, 09:56 PM tasp I am reserving judgment on whether or not Vasimir ... Apr 24 2006, 01:01 AM ljk4-1 Another possible antimatter space drive concept is... Apr 24 2006, 03:13 PM DonPMitchell I looked at some of Heim's work, and I believe... May 9 2006, 09:05 PM helvick QUOTE (DonPMitchell @ May 9 2006, 10:05 P... May 9 2006, 09:18 PM Richard Trigaux QUOTE (DonPMitchell @ May 9 2006, 09:05 P... May 10 2006, 08:10 AM DonPMitchell QUOTE (Richard Trigaux @ May 10 2006, 01... May 10 2006, 11:15 AM Richard Trigaux QUOTE (DonPMitchell @ May 10 2006, 11:15 ... May 10 2006, 12:12 PM DonPMitchell QUOTE (Richard Trigaux @ May 10 2006, 05... May 10 2006, 03:31 PM Bob Shaw QUOTE (Richard Trigaux @ May 10 2006, 01... May 10 2006, 05:42 PM Richard Trigaux QUOTE (Bob Shaw @ May 10 2006, 05:42 PM) ... May 10 2006, 06:08 PM Richard Trigaux QUOTE (DonPMitchell @ May 10 2006, 11:15 ... May 11 2006, 09:27 AM DonPMitchell QUOTE (Richard Trigaux @ May 11 2006, 02... May 11 2006, 10:48 AM Richard Trigaux QUOTE (DonPMitchell @ May 11 2006, 10:48 ... May 11 2006, 11:14 AM DonPMitchell QUOTE (Richard Trigaux @ May 11 2006, 04... May 11 2006, 12:07 PM Richard Trigaux QUOTE (DonPMitchell @ May 11 2006, 12:07 ... May 11 2006, 01:08 PM DonPMitchell Yes. I agree.
A year ago, the BBC found my Vener... May 11 2006, 06:43 PM Richard Trigaux QUOTE (DonPMitchell @ May 11 2006, 06:43 ... May 11 2006, 07:03 PM edstrick In particular, regarding theories of massive rapid... May 11 2006, 08:51 AM BruceMoomaw Anybody dumb enough to still believe in human prog... May 12 2006, 01:27 AM DonPMitchell QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ May 11 2006, 06:27 P... May 12 2006, 03:03 AM nprev QUOTE (DonPMitchell @ May 11 2006, 08:03 ... May 12 2006, 04:47 AM Richard Trigaux Good analysis too, nprev.
Especially the beginni... May 12 2006, 06:45 AM DonPMitchell Science is a complex issue in America. Nerds may ... May 12 2006, 04:57 PM Richard Trigaux QUOTE (DonPMitchell @ May 12 2006, 04:57 ... May 12 2006, 05:23 PM RNeuhaus QUOTE (DonPMitchell @ May 11 2006, 01:43 ... May 12 2006, 02:42 AM Richard Trigaux QUOTE (RNeuhaus @ May 12 2006, 02:42 AM) ... May 12 2006, 05:58 AM ljk4-1 It may be easier to make antimatter in space by co... May 24 2006, 09:15 PM Bob Shaw QUOTE (ljk4-1 @ May 24 2006, 10:15 P... May 24 2006, 09:32 PM tty QUOTE (Bob Shaw @ May 24 2006, 11:32 PM) ... May 25 2006, 05:36 PM tty QUOTE (Bob Shaw @ May 24 2006, 11:32 PM) ... May 25 2006, 05:50 PM DonPMitchell I see NASA defunded Marc Millis a while ago. I be... May 24 2006, 09:52 PM Stephen QUOTE (DonPMitchell @ May 24 2006, 09:52 ... May 25 2006, 02:49 AM Richard Trigaux QUOTE (DonPMitchell @ May 24 2006, 09:52 ... May 25 2006, 03:37 PM |
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