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Earth To Mars In 3hrs **no Joke**
Marslauncher
post Jan 5 2006, 05:57 PM
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Just got tipped off to this story

http://news.scotsman.com/scitech.cfm?id=16902006

Here is the paper

http://www.uibk.ac.at/c/cb/cb26/heim/theor...sicsaip2005.pdf


They could feasibly have a prototype within 5 years!!!

Happy New Year indeed everyone.
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ljk4-1
post May 24 2006, 09:15 PM
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It may be easier to make antimatter in space by collecting antiprotons
naturally trapped in Earth's radiation belts:

http://www.centauri-dreams.org/?p=674


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"After having some business dealings with men, I am occasionally chagrined,
and feel as if I had done some wrong, and it is hard to forget the ugly circumstance.
I see that such intercourse long continued would make one thoroughly prosaic, hard,
and coarse. But the longest intercourse with Nature, though in her rudest moods, does
not thus harden and make coarse. A hard, sensible man whom we liken to a rock is
indeed much harder than a rock. From hard, coarse, insensible men with whom I have
no sympathy, I go to commune with the rocks, whose hearts are comparatively soft."

- Henry David Thoreau, November 15, 1853

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post May 24 2006, 09:32 PM
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QUOTE (ljk4-1 @ May 24 2006, 10:15 PM) *
It may be easier to make antimatter in space by collecting antiprotons
naturally trapped in Earth's radiation belts:

http://www.centauri-dreams.org/?p=674


Truth to tell, never mind 'easier' - I think I'd *prefer* any large-scale anti-matter production to take place well away from any planet I happen to live on, or would like to visit.

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post May 25 2006, 05:50 PM
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QUOTE (Bob Shaw @ May 24 2006, 11:32 PM) *
Truth to tell, never mind 'easier' - I think I'd *prefer* any large-scale anti-matter production to take place well away from any planet I happen to live on, or would like to visit.

Bob Shaw



Why this negativity? See it like this instead: it's the only fuel that is guaranteed not to lay around and pollute the environment after an accident.

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