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Jan 6 2006, 04:32 PM
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Whether this is a two-year extension or longer I'd still have to go with Titan. There is so much of this world which we don't understand and have only begun to unveil that it begs us to focus our attention on this dynamic world. Some important questions that may only be answered with additional flybys:
- What is the source of methane in the atmosphere? - Are there any bodies of liquids on the surface? - Is there active precipitation? - Is Titan geologically active, i.e. cryvolcanism, tectonism, etc? - What is the extent of the organics present? - Is there an ammonia/water mixture under the surface? |
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Apr 18 2006, 09:17 PM
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Looks like it's time for me to ask Bob Mitchell again about their possible alternative plans. While I was scrounging through my printed records last night (as one of my periodic spasmodic ofice cleanups), I ran across Mitchell's Jan. 29, 2001 reply to my question on the possible goals of an extended mission:
"[The most desirable goal for an extended mission] depends on which of the scientists you talk to...However, the prime target that seems to be least satisfactorily covered in the current prime tour by the investigators is Titan. On the other hand, by the time we're halfway through the prime mission, we may have made discoveries that will completely change what would be considered the prime targets." Speak of the Devil. We're about halfway through the prime mission, and Enceladus has indeed upset the applecart. Beyond that, though, the main new conclusion seems to be that Titan's surface is even more varied, hard to understand, and therefore worthy of extensive mapping than had been expected. (I wonder if they'll emphasize using the VIMS more for that than the ISS cameras during the Extended Mission?) Beyond those two moons, the only target I can think of whose relative importance MIGHT possibly be increased by Cassini's observations so far is Hyperion, with its very odd surface. |
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Apr 18 2006, 09:43 PM
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Speak of the Devil. We're about halfway through the prime mission, and Enceladus has indeed upset the applecart. Beyond that, though, the main new conclusion seems to be that Titan's surface is even more varied, hard to understand, and therefore worthy of extensive mapping than had been expected. (I wonder if they'll emphasize using the VIMS more for that than the ISS cameras during the Extended Mission?) Beyond those two moons, the only target I can think of whose relative importance MIGHT possibly be increased by Cassini's observations so far is Hyperion, with its very odd surface. I don't think the discoveries at Enceladus really change the extended mission strategy all that much. Yes, we will want to include more Enceladus flybys, at least a couple right over the south polar region, one to cover the still poorly mapped leading hemisphere, and at least a couple to do gravity measurements. But the driver for any tour will still be Titan. The question will be whether we want a longer extended mission in order to observe seasonal changes, which will mean fewer RADAR passes and perhaps fewer targeted Titan flybys in general to conserve fuel, or a shorter extended mission with more RADAR passes at the expense of observing seasonal changes. I prefer meeting these camps halfway, a two year extended mission with a little bit of both Titan camps to allow enough time for at least 5 Enceladus passes and an additional Iapetus pass. This is smack in the middle of the hyperactive, one-year extended mission that RADAR would prefer, and the slower-paced, 4-year extended mission that the ORS folks may want. In terms of ISS vs. VIMS, once again, we have already done that. Closer in, when ORS has the reins, VIMS is driving. Farther out, ISS is driving because it can get much of the visible surface at only a little lower resolution than VIMS up close. -------------------- &@^^!% Jim! I'm a geologist, not a physicist!
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imran Primary Target For Extended Mission Jan 6 2006, 04:32 PM
belleraphon1 Since CASSINI cannot be placed in orbit around ANY... Jan 6 2006, 05:02 PM
Toma B All of these moons are wonderful and extraordinary... Jan 6 2006, 05:17 PM
volcanopele Titan would be the main focus, just because, as be... Jan 6 2006, 05:33 PM
Michael Capobianco My questions: could one Iapetus pass be designed t... Jan 6 2006, 06:35 PM
belleraphon1 QUOTE (volcanopele @ Jan 6 2006, 12:33 PM)Tit... Jan 6 2006, 07:21 PM
The Messenger QUOTE (belleraphon1 @ Jan 6 2006, 12:21 PM)Al... Jan 6 2006, 10:11 PM
elakdawalla Although I wouldn't call this a "main foc... Jan 6 2006, 06:33 PM
belleraphon1 QUOTE (elakdawalla @ Jan 6 2006, 01:33 PM)Alt... Jan 6 2006, 07:00 PM
AlexBlackwell QUOTE (elakdawalla @ Jan 6 2006, 06:33 PM)Alt... Jan 6 2006, 07:38 PM
elakdawalla QUOTE (AlexBlackwell @ Jan 6 2006, 11:38 AM)A... Jan 6 2006, 07:49 PM

AlexBlackwell QUOTE (elakdawalla @ Jan 6 2006, 07:49 PM)I... Jan 6 2006, 08:08 PM

tallbear QUOTE (elakdawalla @ Jan 6 2006, 12:49 PM)I... Jan 8 2006, 05:53 PM

tallbear QUOTE (tallbear @ Jan 8 2006, 10:53 AM)The 20... Jan 8 2006, 09:03 PM

elakdawalla QUOTE (tallbear @ Jan 8 2006, 09:53 AM)....So... Jan 9 2006, 04:30 PM
AlexBlackwell QUOTE (AlexBlackwell @ Jan 6 2006, 07:38 PM)A... Feb 7 2006, 05:49 PM
Bart I'd like to heartily second Emily's post a... Jan 6 2006, 07:15 PM
antoniseb I voted for Iapetus, but realistically we need to ... Jan 6 2006, 07:55 PM
ljk4-1 How about sending it on to flybys of Uranus and Ne... Jan 6 2006, 08:00 PM

JRehling QUOTE (ljk4-1 @ Jan 6 2006, 12:00 PM)How... Jan 8 2006, 03:25 AM

dvandorn QUOTE (JRehling @ Jan 7 2006, 09:25 PM)...If ... Jan 8 2006, 03:57 AM
volcanopele QUOTE (antoniseb @ Jan 6 2006, 12:55 PM)I vot... Jan 6 2006, 08:10 PM
Bjorn Jonsson I voted for Titan, both because it is interesting ... Jan 7 2006, 08:54 PM
Steve G QUOTE (Bjorn Jonsson @ Jan 7 2006, 01:54 PM)I... Jan 7 2006, 10:04 PM
nprev Gotta side with the apparent majority here...I thi... Jan 6 2006, 11:40 PM
Myran Like nprev I ended up with the majorityside with T... Jan 7 2006, 06:33 PM
Decepticon QUOTE To be honest though, Iapetus is nothing more... Jan 8 2006, 05:10 AM
ljk4-1 How about if we aim Cassini right at the ridge... Jan 8 2006, 04:47 PM
Decepticon I picked Titan. And I wish they would focus on Rad... Jan 8 2006, 04:53 PM
edstrick "....but we really want to have flybys where ... Jan 9 2006, 08:03 AM
tallbear QUOTE (edstrick @ Jan 9 2006, 01:03 AM)... Jan 9 2006, 08:49 AM
Joffan I voted for Titan also, on the grounds that atmosp... Mar 19 2006, 08:58 PM
Decepticon The only thing that scares me in the Saturn system... Mar 19 2006, 10:53 PM
Joffan QUOTE (Decepticon @ Mar 19 2006, 03:53 PM... Mar 20 2006, 05:11 AM
ugordan I think the amount of bipropellant left for the ma... Mar 20 2006, 08:09 AM
J.J. I voted for Titan. A while back, I remember readi... Mar 22 2006, 05:27 AM
BruceMoomaw Robert Mitchell (Cassini project manager) told me ... Mar 22 2006, 05:52 AM
AlexBlackwell QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Mar 22 2006, 05:52 A... Mar 22 2006, 05:32 PM
BruceMoomaw Yeah, and even if the booms didn't break, they... Mar 22 2006, 08:51 PM
AlexBlackwell QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Mar 22 2006, 08:51 P... Mar 22 2006, 09:18 PM
Bart This line of thinking reminds me of an idea that I... Mar 22 2006, 08:55 PM
ugordan QUOTE Is a Titan-like Saturn orbit approachable wi... Mar 22 2006, 08:59 PM
AlexBlackwell QUOTE (ugordan @ Mar 22 2006, 08:59 PM) I... Mar 22 2006, 09:32 PM
ugordan QUOTE (AlexBlackwell @ Mar 22 2006, 10:32... Mar 22 2006, 09:43 PM
JRehling QUOTE (AlexBlackwell @ Mar 22 2006, 01:32... Mar 22 2006, 10:46 PM
TritonAntares What about Iapetus?
Only one close approach on Se... Mar 23 2006, 12:09 PM
JRehling QUOTE (TritonAntares @ Mar 23 2006, 04:09... Mar 23 2006, 06:13 PM
AlexBlackwell QUOTE (JRehling @ Mar 23 2006, 06:13 PM) ... Mar 23 2006, 07:31 PM
Bart Wouldn't it be possible to set up the flybys s... Mar 22 2006, 11:04 PM
JRehling QUOTE (Bart @ Mar 22 2006, 03:04 PM) Also... Mar 22 2006, 11:30 PM
AlexBlackwell QUOTE (Bart @ Mar 22 2006, 11:04 PM) Also... Mar 23 2006, 12:51 AM
BruceMoomaw QUOTE (AlexBlackwell @ Mar 23 2006, 12:51... Mar 23 2006, 01:41 AM
Bart QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Mar 22 2006, 05:41 P... Mar 23 2006, 01:54 AM
AlexBlackwell QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Mar 23 2006, 01:41 A... Mar 23 2006, 06:26 PM
JRehling QUOTE (AlexBlackwell @ Mar 23 2006, 10:26... Mar 23 2006, 06:35 PM
dvandorn QUOTE (JRehling @ Mar 23 2006, 12:35 PM) ... Mar 24 2006, 02:52 AM
TritonAntares Ok, I try on advertising for more Iapetus encounte... Mar 24 2006, 05:56 PM
Bart I just looked up the formulas and did the calculat... Mar 23 2006, 01:05 AM
ugordan QUOTE (Bart @ Mar 23 2006, 02:05 AM) As f... Mar 23 2006, 08:14 AM

Bjorn Jonsson QUOTE (ugordan @ Mar 23 2006, 08:14 AM) 1... Mar 23 2006, 09:33 AM

Bart QUOTE (ugordan @ Mar 23 2006, 12:14 AM) 1... Mar 23 2006, 05:56 PM

ugordan QUOTE (Bart @ Mar 23 2006, 06:56 PM) Acco... Mar 23 2006, 06:12 PM


Bart QUOTE (ugordan @ Mar 23 2006, 10:12 AM) F... Mar 23 2006, 06:26 PM

AlexBlackwell QUOTE (Bart @ Mar 23 2006, 05:56 PM) Acco... Mar 23 2006, 06:16 PM
AlexBlackwell QUOTE (Bart @ Mar 23 2006, 01:05 AM) EDIT... Mar 23 2006, 04:39 PM
ugordan QUOTE (AlexBlackwell @ Mar 23 2006, 05:39... Mar 23 2006, 04:59 PM
AlexBlackwell QUOTE (ugordan @ Mar 23 2006, 04:59 PM) T... Mar 23 2006, 05:00 PM
nprev Just out of curiosity, have forward-contamination ... Mar 23 2006, 02:15 AM
BruceMoomaw QUOTE (nprev @ Mar 23 2006, 02:15 AM) Jus... Apr 5 2006, 01:16 PM
The Messenger QUOTE (Cassini Event Log)The Rings, Saturn, and Ti... Apr 18 2006, 05:25 PM
ugordan QUOTE (volcanopele @ Apr 18 2006, 10:43 P... Apr 19 2006, 07:29 AM
BruceMoomaw Makes sense. Anything more that you or Alex can t... Apr 18 2006, 10:24 PM
BruceMoomaw VIMS' spatial resolution in its 2-micron band ... Apr 19 2006, 03:06 PM
BruceMoomaw Digging on the Web has revealed two limited fragme... Apr 24 2006, 04:13 AM
The Messenger QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Apr 23 2006, 10:13 P... Apr 24 2006, 02:14 PM
tasp Looking at the A-ring up close? I didn't real... Apr 24 2006, 04:32 AM
BruceMoomaw Well, I don't know if it is still an option --... Apr 24 2006, 05:27 AM
edstrick I have assumed that a probable objective during th... Apr 25 2006, 04:51 AM
BruceMoomaw Ah. That must be why one of those practice tour d... Apr 25 2006, 05:57 AM
Bjorn Jonsson This must be highly desireable since a lot of uniq... Apr 25 2006, 01:25 PM
Rob Pinnegar QUOTE (Bjorn Jonsson @ Apr 25 2006, 07:25... Apr 27 2006, 03:18 PM
BruceMoomaw I doubt it. Any closeup A Ring flyby will have to... Apr 27 2006, 07:16 PM
TritonAntares Hi,
it has been quiet on this forum for a while...... Jun 4 2006, 07:20 PM
BruceMoomaw I've been watching for it carefully, but haven... Jun 4 2006, 11:30 PM
TritonAntares Hello,
about 3 months ago I asked for plans for th... Aug 28 2006, 04:47 PM
JRehling QUOTE (TritonAntares @ Aug 28 2006, 09:47... Aug 28 2006, 05:06 PM
TritonAntares QUOTE (JRehling @ Aug 28 2006, 06:06 PM) ... Sep 4 2006, 06:29 PM
tedstryk QUOTE (TritonAntares @ Sep 4 2006, 06:29 ... Sep 5 2006, 08:17 PM
ugordan QUOTE (tedstryk @ Sep 5 2006, 09:17 PM) i... Sep 5 2006, 09:29 PM
vexgizmo QUOTE (ugordan @ Sep 5 2006, 02:29 PM) No... Sep 7 2006, 02:44 AM
mchan If and when Cassini finally goes for Saturn entry,... Sep 7 2006, 03:13 AM
nprev QUOTE (mchan @ Sep 6 2006, 08:13 PM) If a... Sep 7 2006, 04:28 AM
Mariner9 Well, 15 more RADAR passes and 5 Enceledus close e... Sep 5 2006, 08:14 PM
remcook There are so many things to consider... to look at... Sep 5 2006, 08:29 PM
edstrick I thought that it would be possible to extend the ... Sep 7 2006, 11:57 AM
rogelio After the two year extended mission, why not just ... Sep 7 2006, 08:29 PM
ermar QUOTE (rogelio @ Sep 7 2006, 08:29 PM) Af... Sep 8 2006, 02:49 AM
ugordan I agree deliberately crashing a probe on the groun... Sep 8 2006, 08:51 AM![]() ![]() |
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