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| Guest_PhilCo126_* |
  Jan 6 2006, 05:53 PM
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The Deep Space Network (DSN) is well-known for its large parabolic dish antennas but what most people don’t realise is that each ground station site of the DSN has multiple antennas. At each complex there’s one 70-meter aperture antenna, one 34-meter dish, one 26-meter antenna, one 11-meter antenna and the centralized signal processing center which controls the antennas remotely.
Does anybody know of a website with High-resolution photos of the DSN complexes? 
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Jan 6 2006, 06:10 PM
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 Member  Group: Members Posts: 648 Joined: 9-May 05 From: Subotica Member No.: 384 |
For start try Google images...
search for "DSN complex" large images...or go to http://deepspace.jpl.nasa.gov/dsn/gallery/index.html -------------------- The scientist does not study nature because it is useful; he studies it because he delights in it, and he delights in it because it is beautiful.
Jules H. Poincare My "Astrophotos" gallery on flickr... |
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| Guest_PhilCo126_* |
Jan 6 2006, 07:08 PM
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Thanks TOMA... my question was asked after an intensive search on www.... I'm looking to really High-resolution photos (300 DPI) scanned from NASA originals. The days of writing to NASA and getting photos are far over anno 2006!
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Jan 23 2006, 06:15 AM
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Junior Member Group: Members Posts: 72 Joined: 22-December 05 Member No.: 616 |
DSN questions: Does anybody know:
1. Where these antennas are precisely located ( GPS coordinates ) 2. How could we visit these ' Tempels ' for unmanned space buffs ? 3. Does anybody of forum live near any of them ( Jodrell Bank, etc... ) ? |
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Jan 23 2006, 08:34 AM
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Founder Group: Chairman Posts: 14457 Joined: 8-February 04 Member No.: 1 |
You'll probably find them with Google Earth and get good lat-long that way.
I beleive they all have visitors centres that are open at least some of the time and whilst I'm about 3 hrs from Jodrell Bank...it's not part of the DSN  Doug |
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Jan 23 2006, 04:51 PM
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 Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1281 Joined: 18-December 04 From: San Diego, CA Member No.: 124 |
Did someone say Google Earth?
I live about 5 hours from Goldstone - want to go there someday - but right now I doubt my poor Ford Escort could make it... 
-------------------- Lyford Rome
"Zis is not nuts, zis is super-nuts!" Mathematician Richard Courant on viewing an Orion test |
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Jan 23 2006, 07:02 PM
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 Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2454 Joined: 8-July 05 From: NGC 5907 Member No.: 430 |
Networks and Architecture Report: The NASA Deep Space Network
by David Nutter http://compsoc.dur.ac.uk/~dn/ Multimission Considerations for the NASA Deep Space Network (DSN) http://sunset.usc.edu/GSAW/gsaw2002/s10d/kurtik.pdf For some reason this document is not working past the cover pages: Uplink-Downlink. A History of the Deep Space Network 1957–1997 http://history.nasa.gov/SP-4227/Uplink-Downlink.pdf -------------------- "After having some business dealings with men, I am occasionally chagrined,
and feel as if I had done some wrong, and it is hard to forget the ugly circumstance. I see that such intercourse long continued would make one thoroughly prosaic, hard, and coarse. But the longest intercourse with Nature, though in her rudest moods, does not thus harden and make coarse. A hard, sensible man whom we liken to a rock is indeed much harder than a rock. From hard, coarse, insensible men with whom I have no sympathy, I go to commune with the rocks, whose hearts are comparatively soft." - Henry David Thoreau, November 15, 1853 |
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Jan 23 2006, 11:12 PM
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 Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2488 Joined: 17-April 05 From: Glasgow, Scotland, UK Member No.: 239 |
QUOTE (Steffen @ Jan 23 2006, 07:15 AM) DSN questions: Does anybody know: 1. Where these antennas are precisely located ( GPS coordinates ) 2. How could we visit these ' Tempels ' for unmanned space buffs ? 3. Does anybody of forum live near any of them ( Jodrell Bank, etc... ) ?  Steffen: I visit Jodrell Bank every few years, as I have family connections nearby, and have taken photos of it at each visit. I'll post a few of the most recent visit in a day or so. One thing about Jodrell Bank is that you can get right up to the base of the telescope itself (and even into the compound below, if you're a bit cheeky). It's built using railway-engineering crossed with battleships - a helluva thing! Bob Shaw -------------------- Remember: Time Flies like the wind - but Fruit Flies like bananas!
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Jan 23 2006, 11:37 PM
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 Senior Member Group: Moderator Posts: 2262 Joined: 9-February 04 From: Melbourne - Oz Member No.: 16 |
QUOTE (Steffen @ Jan 23 2006, 05:15 PM) 3. Does anybody of forum live near any of them ( Jodrell Bank, etc... ) ? QUOTE (lyford @ Jan 24 2006, 03:51 AM) I live about 5 hours from Goldstone - want to go there someday - but right now I doubt my poor Ford Escort could make it... And I'm about 3 hours from Canberra -------------------- |
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| Guest_PhilCo126_* |
Jan 24 2006, 07:51 AM
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Well,
I'm 2 hours away from REDU, a radio antennas site in the Ardennes... used by Belgian Telecoms and occasionally by ESA ( not part of DSN ). Great to see some of us live nearby those DSN sites, if I would live that close I would visit them regularly Looks like we covered 60% of the antenna sites, do we have someone near Madrid ( remember the October 2006 visit to Spain in a separate topic ) ? |
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| Guest_PhilCo126_* |
Feb 9 2006, 06:01 PM
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Good webpage to start a quiz on identifying Radio Antennas
 http://users.ugent.be/~bluyssae/RADIO/collage.htm Listing of Antennas ... Arecibo – Puerto Rico : 300 meters Effelsberg – Germany : 100 meters Greenbank – USA : 100 meters Jodrell Bank Cheshire –GB : 76 meters Canberra – Australia : 70 meters Goldstone - Barstow – USA : 70 meters Madrid – Spain DSS-63 : 70 meters Parkes – Australia : 64 meters Alqoquin Park – Canada : 46 meters Cebreros Avila – Spain : 35 meters Aulencia Villafranca – Spain : 15 meters |
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| Guest_PhilCo126_* |
 Feb 11 2006, 06:17 PM
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The DSN site in Spain has a visitors' centre:
http://www.mdscc.org/html/visitors.html ESA's new antenna in Spain ( not part of DSN !? ): http://www.esa.int/esaCP/SEM7BO7X9DE_index_0.html 
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May 22 2006, 04:21 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2454 Joined: 8-July 05 From: NGC 5907 Member No.: 430 |
GAO: NASA's Ability to Meet Future Deep Space Communications Demand Is at
Risk http://www.spaceref.com/news/viewpr.nl.html?pid=19901 "In a report released today, the Government Accountability Office (GAO) found that NASA's Deep Space Network (DSN)-the agency's primary system for communicating with spacecraft beyond low Earth orbit-is not well positioned to meet the coming demands of the Vision for Exploration and future deep space science missions." -------------------- "After having some business dealings with men, I am occasionally chagrined,
and feel as if I had done some wrong, and it is hard to forget the ugly circumstance. I see that such intercourse long continued would make one thoroughly prosaic, hard, and coarse. But the longest intercourse with Nature, though in her rudest moods, does not thus harden and make coarse. A hard, sensible man whom we liken to a rock is indeed much harder than a rock. From hard, coarse, insensible men with whom I have no sympathy, I go to commune with the rocks, whose hearts are comparatively soft." - Henry David Thoreau, November 15, 1853 |
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| Guest_PhilCo126_* |
May 23 2006, 05:14 PM
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Any space agency can put a large dish on the roof of my house
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| Guest_PhilCo126_* |
May 29 2006, 01:19 PM
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Here's a weblink to a site with great 1960s photos of the Deep Space Network !
http://www.honeysucklecreek.net/index1.html Best regards, Phill 
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May 30 2006, 02:39 PM
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Well...Not DSN but I have this big antennas of the Centro de Satélites de Sintra really close, about 20kms, from where I live...:
http://www.cienciaviva.pt/veraocv/logotipos/pt3.jpg http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b14/ustrax3/css.jpg Huumm...Maybe Saturday I'll walk there...
-------------------- "Ride, boldly ride," The shade replied, "If you seek for Eldorado!"
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| Guest_DonPMitchell_* |
May 30 2006, 06:56 PM
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Here's a few pictures of Russian DSN facilities.
[attachment=5954:attachment] Pluton System (1960) [attachment=5955:attachment] [attachment=5956:attachment] 70-Meter Systems in Yevpatoria and Ussuriysk [attachment=5957:attachment] [attachment=5958:attachment] 64-Meter Systems in Kalyazin and Bear Lake Check out the bear in the foreground of the Kalyazin antenna. How Russian can you get! They also have dozens of 26 and 32-meter antennas. They made a range of standard designs, increasing in surface area by factors of two. |
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May 31 2006, 12:42 AM
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 Dublin Correspondent Group: Admin Posts: 1799 Joined: 28-March 05 From: Celbridge, Ireland Member No.: 220 |
QUOTE (DonPMitchell @ May 30 2006, 07:56 PM) Check out the bear in the foreground of the Kalyazin antenna. How Russian can you get! Those are cool shots of the various antennae but the bear shot is pure class. Must have been a very happy photographer.
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| Guest_DonPMitchell_* |
May 31 2006, 05:06 AM
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Russia may also complete a third 70-meter dish on the Suffa plateau in Uzbekistan. They ran out of money a few years ago, but things seem to be picking up again.
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May 31 2006, 06:29 AM
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 Senior Member Group: Admin Posts: 3108 Joined: 21-December 05 From: Canberra, Australia Member No.: 615 |
I can help you with any photo you need of the DSN antennas at the Canberra Complex.
There are a few examples at our website If you want high resolution, I can supply them in just about any size and format you may want. Feel free to contact me. Regards Astro0
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| Guest_PhilCo126_* |
May 31 2006, 07:28 PM
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Thanks for pointing that out Astro0...
Meanwhile I'm giving the coordinates of a third Antenna site in Spain ( DSN is Robledo de Chavela ) ( Apollo-era DSN was in fact located at Fresnedillas ) and this is the European Space Agency antenna site near Villafranca ... VILSPA of ESA ( coordinates 40° 26 ' 33'' North * 03° 57' 06" West )
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