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Jan 16 2006, 03:08 PM
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I thought it was time, with the Atlas V about to roll out - for a new thread for NH for the launch etc.
Someone asked over at the HZ just how NH can go so fast, this was my reply.... QUOTE How do you get a spacecraft to Jupiter in under a year? Easy. Make it very very light, and put it on a very very big rocket. The config of Atlas V rocket being used to launch NH (551 - 5m fairing, 5 solids, and one engine on the Centaur stage ) would typically put 8,670kg into GTO or 20,520 into LEO. New Horizons is 478kg, and it's Star 48B 3rd stage is 2,137kg - so instead of hauling 20 tons, this vehicle is hauling about 2.5 tons thus you get a HUGE velocity out of it. AND, once it's done that, you have the final kick of the 48B, 591 thousand kgs-s (thus accelerating is all a further 3.5 - 4km/s ball park speed, if my maths is right) At launch - the vehicle is 573,160kg. NH is 0.083% of it. Imagine the Apollo entry capsule on top of a Saturn V...tiny tiny tiny... that was 5,800 kg on a 3,038,500kg rocket - 0.191% - more than double that percentage of NH. The cutaway's are almost comical, with this tiny gold-clad box on an enormous vehicle. Basically - it's a LOT of rocket, and not a lot of payload. For comparison, look how much fuss was made of Stardust that entered so quickly. It took >16 hrs to get from the distance of the moon to Utah. NH makes that journey in 9 hours One thing the NH mission is not short of, is superlatives. I'm not one for good luck charms (although I'll eat peanuts during a Martian EDL with the best of them), but this mission has been so long in coming, that it deserves every ounce of luck it can have - the best, most accurate launch possible, the cleanest checkout, and incident free cruise to Jupiter. Goodluck and Godspeed little one, we're with you every step of the way. Doug PS - Alan, you're a credit to your field, spending so much time answering questions and writing the PI Perspectives, it's been a hell of a journey! |
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djellison Nh - The Launch Thread Jan 16 2006, 03:08 PM
Toma B Atlas-5 with New Horizons is moving toward launch ... Jan 16 2006, 03:27 PM
imran Yes, Godspeed indeed. The launch will be spectacu... Jan 16 2006, 03:28 PM
Toma B On the way!!!
Jan 16 2006, 03:37 PM
helvick QUOTE (Toma B @ Jan 16 2006, 04:37 PM)On the ... Jan 16 2006, 03:47 PM
Toma B Rocket is in place....Yippeee!!! ... Jan 16 2006, 04:10 PM
Myran 4-5 mph helvick? That was a humble start. Now its ... Jan 16 2006, 04:17 PM
ljk4-1 01.12.06
J.D. Harrington
Headquarters, Washington... Jan 16 2006, 04:35 PM
odave That's quite an inspiring sight. Wunderground... Jan 16 2006, 05:40 PM
Analyst Goodluck and sunny weather tomorrow. It's been... Jan 16 2006, 05:55 PM
punkboi QUOTE (Analyst @ Jan 16 2006, 10:55 AM)Btw, i... Jan 16 2006, 06:48 PM
imran Check Spaceflight Now for latest mission updates.
... Jan 16 2006, 06:54 PM
Toma B It is now exactly T-24 hours until liftoff………..if ... Jan 16 2006, 06:24 PM
elakdawalla I'm checking out the really wonderful Expendab... Jan 16 2006, 06:47 PM
Toma B NEW IMAGES at Spaceflightnow.com
http://www... Jan 16 2006, 07:02 PM
imran QUOTE (Toma B @ Jan 16 2006, 07:02 PM)NEW IMA... Jan 16 2006, 07:08 PM

odave QUOTE (imran @ Jan 16 2006, 02:08 PM)Awesome ... Jan 16 2006, 07:33 PM
BPCooper QUOTE (Toma B @ Jan 16 2006, 03:02 PM)NEW IMA... Jan 17 2006, 03:57 PM
Toma B QUOTE (BPCooper @ Jan 17 2006, 06:57 PM)Go At... Jan 17 2006, 04:01 PM
Toma B Am I seeing Carolin Porco (...Cassini...) with New... Jan 16 2006, 07:16 PM
ToSeek QUOTE (Toma B @ Jan 16 2006, 07:16 PM)Am I se... Jan 16 2006, 07:27 PM
Toma B The "go" has been given to the launch te... Jan 16 2006, 07:56 PM
Sunspot I'm almost too nervous to watch these launches... Jan 16 2006, 07:59 PM
punkboi QUOTE (Sunspot @ Jan 16 2006, 12:59 PM)I... Jan 16 2006, 08:21 PM
djellison That's CP.
Doug Jan 16 2006, 08:20 PM
Toma B ...and finally HI-RES pictures at KSC...
New Horiz... Jan 16 2006, 08:21 PM
nprev QUOTE (Toma B @ Jan 16 2006, 01:21 PM)...and ... Jan 16 2006, 10:00 PM
yaohua2000 Predict trajectory:
http://iota.jhuapl.edu/nh116.... Jan 16 2006, 08:42 PM
punkboi "The first stage fuel tank is now about half ... Jan 16 2006, 08:50 PM
deglr6328 dumb ? time. Why is the first stage copper clad? Jan 16 2006, 10:16 PM
Airbag QUOTE (deglr6328 @ Jan 16 2006, 06:16 PM)dumb... Jan 16 2006, 11:18 PM
MahFL The first stage tank is Copper Anodised Aluminium.... Jan 16 2006, 11:41 PM
mchan QUOTE (MahFL @ Jan 16 2006, 03:41 PM)The firs... Jan 17 2006, 12:07 AM
mcaplinger QUOTE (mchan @ Jan 16 2006, 04:07 PM)"Co... Jan 17 2006, 12:15 AM
mars loon To Pluto and BEYOND !!!
at last ... Jan 17 2006, 12:28 AM
djellison I think it just LOOKS like it's copper clad. i... Jan 16 2006, 10:28 PM
mcaplinger QUOTE (djellison @ Jan 16 2006, 02:28 PM)I th... Jan 16 2006, 10:45 PM
helvick QUOTE (djellison @ Jan 16 2006, 11:28 PM)I th... Jan 16 2006, 10:56 PM
mchan QUOTE (djellison @ Jan 16 2006, 07:08 AM)How ... Jan 16 2006, 10:58 PM
djellison That was the actual line I quoted from the previou... Jan 16 2006, 11:02 PM
Tesheiner Here is NH on top of the booster.
Good luck... Jan 17 2006, 10:24 AM
edstrick Uh....
Would somebody explain to me how they hav... Jan 17 2006, 11:21 AM
MahFL This link has some good info on the Atlas. I may h... Jan 17 2006, 11:45 AM
djellison QUOTE (edstrick @ Jan 17 2006, 11:21 AM)Uh...... Jan 17 2006, 11:50 AM
ugordan QUOTE (edstrick @ Jan 17 2006, 12:21 PM)Would... Jan 17 2006, 11:54 AM
Bill Harris Good cut-away image, Tesheiner. That puts the sp... Jan 17 2006, 02:12 PM
ugordan The thrust vectors do add up differently, but as l... Jan 17 2006, 02:26 PM
Toma B QUOTE (ugordan @ Jan 17 2006, 05:26 PM)What e... Jan 17 2006, 02:44 PM
punkboi QUOTE (Toma B @ Jan 17 2006, 07:44 AM)The Atl... Jan 17 2006, 02:46 PM
ugordan QUOTE (punkboi @ Jan 17 2006, 03:46 PM)Err, w... Jan 17 2006, 02:50 PM
djellison http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&hs=iE...+in+m... Jan 17 2006, 02:49 PM
ugordan QUOTE (djellison @ Jan 17 2006, 03:49 PM)Goog... Jan 17 2006, 02:52 PM
odave QUOTE (djellison @ Jan 17 2006, 09:49 AM)Goog... Jan 17 2006, 02:59 PM
chris I may or may not be able to watch the launch live ... Jan 17 2006, 02:53 PM
Toma B There is some obvious weather change today at KSC.... Jan 17 2006, 02:57 PM
Toma B Spaceflightnow.com
1445 GMT (9:45 a.m. EST)
NASA i... Jan 17 2006, 02:59 PM
yaohua2000 Who knows any NASA TV mirrors, I can only get 34Kb... Jan 17 2006, 03:00 PM
chris QUOTE (yaohua2000 @ Jan 17 2006, 03:00 PM)Who... Jan 17 2006, 03:08 PM
AstronomíaOnline.com I'm following Mike Griffin's New Horizons ... Jan 17 2006, 03:11 PM

djellison QUOTE (AstronomíaOnline.com @ Jan 17 2006, 03... Jan 17 2006, 03:32 PM

helvick QUOTE (djellison @ Jan 17 2006, 04:32 PM)Kudo... Jan 17 2006, 03:44 PM

ljk4-1 QUOTE (helvick @ Jan 17 2006, 10:44 AM)There ... Jan 17 2006, 03:49 PM
ugordan QUOTE (yaohua2000 @ Jan 17 2006, 04:00 PM)Who... Jan 17 2006, 03:12 PM
Toma B When will they start pumping LOX and LH into rocke... Jan 17 2006, 03:33 PM
ugordan QUOTE (Toma B @ Jan 17 2006, 04:33 PM)When wi... Jan 17 2006, 03:36 PM
djellison Good luck to you as well Ben - we're counting ... Jan 17 2006, 04:02 PM
Toma B Spaceflight Now.com
1607 GMT (11:07 a.m. EST)
Wind... Jan 17 2006, 04:12 PM
helvick QUOTE (Toma B @ Jan 17 2006, 05:12 PM)Spacefl... Jan 17 2006, 04:24 PM
ugordan Ok, there are obviously some serious problems with... Jan 17 2006, 04:29 PM
helvick QUOTE (ugordan @ Jan 17 2006, 05:29 PM)Ok, th... Jan 17 2006, 04:44 PM

ugordan QUOTE (helvick @ Jan 17 2006, 05:44 PM)No con... Jan 17 2006, 04:48 PM
odave QUOTE (ugordan @ Jan 17 2006, 11:29 AM)And I ... Jan 17 2006, 04:56 PM
ugordan QUOTE (odave @ Jan 17 2006, 05:56 PM)No strea... Jan 17 2006, 05:09 PM
MahFL No streaming here either, just refreshing webcam p... Jan 17 2006, 05:11 PM
Toma B Cryogenic oxidizer is being filled into Centaur an... Jan 17 2006, 04:50 PM
MahFL QUOTE (Toma B @ Jan 17 2006, 04:50 PM)Cryogen... Jan 17 2006, 04:53 PM
Jeff7 QUOTE (MahFL @ Jan 17 2006, 11:53 AM)You mean... Jan 17 2006, 04:54 PM
JRehling Little table of when each world got its first laun... Jan 17 2006, 04:59 PM
PhilCo126 Yes TomaB that's Dr Carolyn PORCO for sure:
ht... Jan 17 2006, 05:00 PM
Toma B QUOTE (PhilCo126 @ Jan 17 2006, 08:00 PM)Yes ... Jan 17 2006, 05:05 PM
odave Thanks for the link - better than nothing! Jan 17 2006, 05:14 PM
PhilCo126 Waiting for a Meteo report... At Minus 1 Hour ... ... Jan 17 2006, 05:17 PM
Toma B T-1hour...
Looks sunny...
Jan 17 2006, 05:24 PM
PhilCo126 Pitty Dr Clyde TOMBAUGH can't see this but I b... Jan 17 2006, 05:31 PM
lyford For those "at work" or with video player... Jan 17 2006, 05:45 PM
MahFL Border line winds.
Jan 17 2006, 05:54 PM
MahFL Winds seems to be dropping bit Jan 17 2006, 05:55 PM
Toma B QUOTE (MahFL @ Jan 17 2006, 08:55 PM)Winds se... Jan 17 2006, 06:01 PM
MahFL updated: 12:46 PM EST on January 17, 2006
Observed... Jan 17 2006, 06:03 PM
ljk4-1 NEWSALERT: Tuesday, January 17, 2005 @ 1658 GMT
... Jan 17 2006, 06:05 PM
MahFL Didn't they have a similar problem with the MR... Jan 17 2006, 06:05 PM
PhilCo126 Winds 25 knots ... gusts 33 knots
But there's ... Jan 17 2006, 05:58 PM
Toma B There was only ONE gust of wind greater than 33 kn... Jan 17 2006, 06:08 PM
MahFL Engineers have determined the first stage liquid o... Jan 17 2006, 06:13 PM
MahFL NEW LAUNCH TIME! Liftoff has been delayed to 1... Jan 17 2006, 06:15 PM
jamescanvin Who scheduled this for 5am?
I'm going to have... Jan 17 2006, 06:11 PM
PhilCo126 Still exciting though ... T-4 minutes ... built-in... Jan 17 2006, 06:11 PM
Toma B QUOTE (PhilCo126 @ Jan 17 2006, 09:11 PM)Stil... Jan 17 2006, 06:13 PM
Rakhir NEW LAUNCH TIME! Liftoff has being delayed to ... Jan 17 2006, 06:14 PM
Jeff7 QUOTE (Rakhir @ Jan 17 2006, 01:14 PM)NEW LAU... Jan 17 2006, 06:16 PM![]() ![]() |
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