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djellison
post Jan 18 2006, 10:27 PM
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Frames at 10s intervals instead of the 20s intervals (iirc) they used to have.
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706 p2663.06 17  17  0   0   0   34   pancam_deimos_transit_R8

Duration (hhmmss)   =  00:12:45
Data Vol (Mbits)    =      0.84


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post Jan 19 2006, 12:22 AM
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The more data sets they have on these events, the more they can bring in the limits of +/- on variables. Imaging at 10s gives another step in the level of accuracy available. It helps constrain the orbits of the moons, and mean better targeting for observations from orbit.

For total 'wow' factor, I'd very much like to see 10s sampled Navcam imagery of the terrain during a Phobos eclipse, as it gets quite dark during those. Pity there was no chance to do this from Husband hill, as the shadow might have even been visible racing across Gusev crater.

It would mean forgoing the Pancam imagery of the sun during that time, but ... it'd be cool smile.gif

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post Jan 21 2006, 07:52 PM
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QUOTE (djellison @ Jan 19 2006, 12:22 AM)
For total 'wow' factor, I'd very much like to see 10s sampled Navcam imagery of the terrain during a Phobos eclipse, as it gets quite dark during those. Pity there was no chance to do this from Husband hill, as the shadow might have even been visible racing across Gusev crater.

It would mean forgoing the Pancam imagery of the sun during that time, but ... it'd be cool smile.gif

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That would be cool, but unfortunately Phobos only covers around 1/3 of the surface area of the sun, so that means you'd only be in the very diffuse penumbra. It's very hard to notice it when the sun is 1/3 covered by our moon during a solar eclipse. But in our case the sunlight dims very slowly, on a timescale of hours. For Mars, a Phobos eclipse lasts 30 seconds or so. So if you were standing there, I think you would notice a very subtle dimming if you payed close attention.

The width on the surface of Mars of the gradient part of Phobos' shadow (ie the distance from the outer edge of the penumbra to the outer edge of the region where Phobos is entirely in front of the sun) is equal to the diameter of Phobos, for an overhead eclipse. That's roughly 20km, depending on Phobos' orientation. So even from the summit of Husband, with a horizon distance on the order of 20km, you'd need a very wide view to see the extent of that gradient on the horizon (seeing it closer would be even harder). So a hazcam shot might have shown something very subtle (if there were any eclipses to see at that time!).

Actually though, I think with a pair of hazcams, one when the shadow was on the horizon and one a minute or so later or before, you could quite easily reveal the shadow using the dust devil diferencing technique. This could be doable from somewhat high ground.

That animation was nice, Doug. I've made gifs in the past with 10 second pauses each frame to achieve "real time", but the interpolation you've done between frames makes a big difference - did you do that interpolation by hand or was it some morphing app?
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- djellison   New Eclipse Season   Jan 18 2006, 10:27 PM
- - tacitus   Aside from the coolness factor, is there any remai...   Jan 18 2006, 11:14 PM
- - djellison   The more data sets they have on these events, the ...   Jan 19 2006, 12:22 AM
|- - fredk   QUOTE (djellison @ Jan 19 2006, 12:22 AM)For ...   Jan 21 2006, 07:52 PM
- - djellison   One thing I've often thought of is that we hav...   Jan 19 2006, 01:56 AM
|- - jamescanvin   QUOTE (djellison @ Jan 19 2006, 12:56 PM)One ...   Jan 19 2006, 02:34 AM
|- - ljk4-1   QUOTE (djellison @ Jan 18 2006, 08:56 PM)One ...   Jan 21 2006, 09:46 PM
|- - ljk4-1   QUOTE (djellison @ Jan 18 2006, 08:56 PM)One ...   Jan 21 2006, 09:47 PM
|- - djellison   QUOTE (ljk4-1 @ Jan 21 2006, 09:47 PM)Vi...   Jan 21 2006, 10:04 PM
- - Pertinax   Thank you Doug. That is something that I have wis...   Jan 19 2006, 02:31 PM
|- - mars loon   That is indeed cool Doug. Thank you. How about ...   Jan 21 2006, 01:46 AM
- - djellison   A phobos one was scheduled for a sol or two ago, b...   Jan 21 2006, 11:02 AM
|- - mars loon   I looked too but dont see them yet. Thanks in ad...   Jan 21 2006, 05:50 PM
- - djellison   Heck - the images are down but they're totally...   Jan 22 2006, 07:49 PM
- - djellison   Obviously a little hard to see much in that anim g...   Jan 22 2006, 09:47 PM
|- - fredk   QUOTE (djellison @ Jan 22 2006, 09:47 PM)Obvi...   Jan 23 2006, 04:11 PM
- - djellison   I didnt - I just made a total simualtion of the ev...   Jan 23 2006, 04:28 PM
|- - fredk   QUOTE (djellison @ Jan 23 2006, 04:28 PM)I di...   Jan 23 2006, 06:48 PM
- - djellison   It's just an animation - I made a phobos-ish-s...   Jan 23 2006, 08:20 PM
- - djellison   The raw JPG's are too bad to even worry about ...   Jan 26 2006, 10:39 AM
- - CosmicRocker   It seems that more images of the Phobos eclipse ca...   Jan 28 2006, 12:56 AM
|- - dilo   QUOTE (CosmicRocker @ Jan 28 2006, 12:56 AM)I...   Jan 28 2006, 09:23 AM
- - djellison   I told Jim about the JPG's being totally borke...   Jan 28 2006, 01:15 AM
- - CosmicRocker   Wow, talk about a man with "connections....   Jan 28 2006, 03:17 AM
- - jvandriel   Opportunity as astronomer. Here is the animation...   Jan 28 2006, 12:44 PM
- - jvandriel   Here from Sol 708. jvandriel   Jan 28 2006, 12:45 PM
- - jvandriel   and the last one from Sol 709. jvandriel   Jan 28 2006, 12:46 PM
|- - ljk4-1   QUOTE (jvandriel @ Jan 28 2006, 07:46 AM)and ...   Jan 28 2006, 04:50 PM
||- - djellison   QUOTE (ljk4-1 @ Jan 28 2006, 04:50 PM)Ri...   Feb 1 2006, 12:01 PM
|- - Oersted   QUOTE (jvandriel @ Jan 28 2006, 02:46 PM)and ...   Feb 1 2006, 11:18 AM
- - Ant103   Hello, I've just made animated Gif of transit...   Feb 12 2006, 11:55 PM
|- - ljk4-1   Light and shadow on the surface of Mars These ima...   Feb 17 2006, 04:32 PM
- - djellison   Incase anyone missed it - Jim's added a transi...   Feb 17 2006, 04:42 PM
- - mars loon   QUOTE (djellison @ Feb 17 2006, 04:42 PM)...   Feb 18 2006, 02:33 PM


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