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 Jul 14 2007, 04:22 PM
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QUOTE (mcaplinger @ Jul 14 2007, 04:59 PM)  I answered that: it would work but there are no plans to operate MARDI post-landing. Got the point this time Mike! I thought image & sound could have been kind of independant. Thanks -------------------- |
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Sep 7 2007, 01:56 PM
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From today's ESA release, sounds great to me...:
"Operations experts at ESA are currently studying ways to use Mars Express to communicate with the Phoenix lander during its 90-day mission. This could increase the amount of scientific data returned by the lander, as Mars Express would have the capacity to contact and command the lander every two or three days, as well as serve as a relay station for commands and back-up in case of NASA spacecraft failures. Mars Express could also record data if Phoenix goes in safe mode." -------------------- "Ride, boldly ride," The shade replied, "If you seek for Eldorado!"
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Sep 7 2007, 03:30 PM
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About time
 We should have been doing UHF relay for MER as a 'payback' for borrowing the DSN so much  Doug |
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Sep 7 2007, 05:44 PM
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QUOTE (djellison @ Sep 7 2007, 05:30 AM) About time We should have been doing UHF relay for MER as a 'payback' for borrowing the DSN so much What do you mean by "borrowing"? You mean for free? I didn't realize ESA didn't pay (or barter) for time on the DSN. |
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Oct 26 2007, 04:51 PM
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Special Cookie Group: Members Posts: 2168 Joined: 6-April 05 From: Sintra | Portugal Member No.: 228 |
-------------------- "Ride, boldly ride," The shade replied, "If you seek for Eldorado!"
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Oct 26 2007, 11:08 PM
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 Merciless Robot Group: Admin Posts: 8789 Joined: 8-December 05 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 602 |
Freakin' awesome...thanks, Rui!
Man...the level of detail, the simulations, the constant discovery of disconnects & bugs...it is always so impressive to see the dedication and foresight of these people who dare to send robots to explore the planets!!! -------------------- A few will take this knowledge and use this power of a dream realized as a force for change, an impetus for further discovery to make less ancient dreams real.
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Oct 29 2007, 10:28 AM
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Special Cookie Group: Members Posts: 2168 Joined: 6-April 05 From: Sintra | Portugal Member No.: 228 |
You're welcome nprev...
Did you see the size of the trench?! That baby will REALLY dig!!
-------------------- "Ride, boldly ride," The shade replied, "If you seek for Eldorado!"
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Oct 29 2007, 11:14 AM
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Merciless Robot Group: Admin Posts: 8789 Joined: 8-December 05 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 602 |
Ohh, yeah...more power, more power!!! (grunt, grunt)
Hopefully we'll see the glimmer of ice down there...
-------------------- A few will take this knowledge and use this power of a dream realized as a force for change, an impetus for further discovery to make less ancient dreams real.
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Oct 29 2007, 06:51 PM
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As I understand, during landing site selection, there was a concern of
seeing too much ice and not enough soil to do mineralogy/chemistry on. Seeing ice should be a given, but I guess planners have been surprised before with respect to actual vs. predicted landing site conditions. As always it will be exciting waitng for those first images of the landing site, and then the first -- and subsequent -- images from inside the trench.
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Apr 1 2008, 09:01 AM
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Special Cookie Group: Members Posts: 2168 Joined: 6-April 05 From: Sintra | Portugal Member No.: 228 |
Stu, our intrepid reporter got some goodies from Mark Lemmon among which are how things will develop on landing day and what we can expect in the first days regarding images...
-------------------- "Ride, boldly ride," The shade replied, "If you seek for Eldorado!"
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Apr 1 2008, 12:04 PM
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I'm always amazed and grateful when these guys take the time to reply to emails, especially when they answer so fully. There are some really interesting news bits in there, made me even more excited about Phoenix...
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Apr 1 2008, 12:42 PM
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Merciless Robot Group: Admin Posts: 8789 Joined: 8-December 05 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 602 |
An absolutely terrific article, Stu; outstanding work!!!
A must-read for Marsophiles--now I know exactly what to expect on Landing Day. -------------------- A few will take this knowledge and use this power of a dream realized as a force for change, an impetus for further discovery to make less ancient dreams real.
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Apr 1 2008, 05:19 PM
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The Poet Dude Group: Moderator Posts: 5551 Joined: 15-March 04 From: Kendal, Cumbria, UK Member No.: 60 |
Glad you enjoyed it, I was v v v chuffed that Mark was so forthcoming. I can start planning that weekend now! Thankfully, the Phoenix landing coincides with my weekend off work, so I can camp by my computer and follow the whole thing as it happens... if I've got my time conversions right then Phoenix should land at around 11pm on the 25th my time, the first picture should be released within an hour, taking me to midnight, and any JPL Press Conference, with pictures to show, should be about 5am Sunday morning BST (Bleary-eyed Stu Time
 )Good to hear that there'll be a raw images site, and great to hear that they'll - hopefully - be accepting image contributions from people "out here"... I am getting quite fidgety now to see what Phoenix's surroundings will be after landing, aren't you..? -------------------- |
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Apr 1 2008, 07:23 PM
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QUOTE (Stu @ Apr 1 2008, 06:19 PM) I can start planning that weekend now! Why do these guys always plan this events to hours where one must be dreaming of Mars?...  Dear Stu, your work was truly helpful on letting us all know how things will run within...less than 9 weeks now?...Already?!  -------------------- "Ride, boldly ride," The shade replied, "If you seek for Eldorado!"
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Apr 2 2008, 03:22 AM
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QUOTE (ustrax @ Apr 1 2008, 02:23 PM) Why do these guys always plan this events to hours where one must be dreaming of Mars?... Well -- someone correct me if I'm wrong, but 11pm in the UK is 7pm in New York, 6pm in Minneapolis (my locale), and most important, 4pm in Pasadena. So the guys in charge of EDL get to work it in the middle of the afternoon, their time. Of course, the first pictures will come down "after hours" for any American location. But not so late as to be interrupting anyone's beauty sleep... Besides, if you want to land at a given place, with a given sun angle, after a launch on a given day, you don't have many choices in terms of planning. The landing will happen at a specific time, and it's moot whether or not that's a convenient time for the engineers, scientists, or even us fascinated spectators... (Talk to me sometime about the times in my early and mid teens I would sit up all night watching lunar landings and moonwalks. Apollo 14 happened in a dark world in my memory, because most all of the lunar activities happened when it was dark in the central U.S.) -the other Doug -------------------- “The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right.” -Mark Twain
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