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Jan 26 2006, 03:46 PM
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A new, low-cost mission concept to Mars would slam a projectile into the planet's surface in an attempt to look for subsurface water ice.
"I'm interested in exploring mid-latitude areas of Mars that look like they're made of snow and ice," Phil Christensen, the project's principal investigator, told SpaceDaily.com. Christensen, of Arizona State University, and colleagues at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, are proposing a mission called THOR – for Tracing Habitability, Organics and Resources – as part of NASA's Mars Scout program. Like last year's Deep Impact mission to comet Tempel 1, THOR aims to ram a projectile at high speed into the surface of Mars while a host spacecraft remains in orbit and observes the impact and its aftermath. If approved by NASA, the mission would launch in 2011. That mission would be after MSL's mission. Now it is still a proposal More details: http://www.spacedaily.com/reports/THOR_Mar...ound_Water.html Rodolfo |
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Jan 26 2006, 11:08 PM
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Thor-Able was a precursor to the modern Delta LV's iirc, and there's one about 5 miles from here at the National Space Centre
http://moblog.co.uk/view.php?id=47689 Doug |
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Jan 27 2006, 02:23 AM
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I would rather see a mars atmospheric sample return probe for 2011, which seems to have the best science per dollar ratio. But slamming a probe into mars does sounds cheap, a lot cheaper then $450 million!, I mean all you need a very simpler probe with a mission life of 6-9months, and a lot of dead weight, lets see a 1000kg probe going at 4km/s would produce about 8,000,000,000 joules or ~1.9 metric tons of TNT in energy, about the size of a large dumb bomb.
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Jan 27 2006, 02:29 AM
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Merciless Robot ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 8791 Joined: 8-December 05 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 602 |
QUOTE (exobioquest @ Jan 26 2006, 07:23 PM) I would rather see a mars atmospheric sample return probe for 2011, which seems to have the best science per dollar ratio. But slamming a probe into mars does sounds cheap, a lot cheaper then $450 million!, I mean all you need a very simpler probe with a mission life of 6-9months, and a lot of dead weight, lets see a 1000kg probe going at 4km/s would produce about 8,000,000,000 joules or ~1.9 metric tons of TNT in energy, about the size of a large dumb bomb. Hmm. Yes, that much kinetic energy would leave anything Thor... (runs for cover...) -------------------- A few will take this knowledge and use this power of a dream realized as a force for change, an impetus for further discovery to make less ancient dreams real.
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RNeuhaus "thor" Mars Mission To Seek Underground Water Jan 26 2006, 03:46 PM
Marz QUOTE (RNeuhaus @ Jan 26 2006, 09:46 AM)THOR ... Jan 26 2006, 05:06 PM
gpurcell QUOTE (Marz @ Jan 26 2006, 05:06 PM)When all ... Jan 26 2006, 05:09 PM
djellison I suppose you have MRO there to image the crater a... Jan 26 2006, 05:12 PM
Chmee Strange that this would be named THOR since that w... Jan 26 2006, 05:18 PM
MahFL And what would the chances of say hitting MSL by a... Jan 26 2006, 06:03 PM
Canopus The search for methane will also be included. Hop... Jan 26 2006, 06:07 PM
RNeuhaus Hope that the impactor would make a crater close e... Jan 26 2006, 07:05 PM
BruceMoomaw The "Thor" name applied to both projects... Jan 26 2006, 11:04 PM
AlexBlackwell QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Jan 26 2006, 11:04 PM)It... Jan 27 2006, 03:59 PM
mchan QUOTE (djellison @ Jan 26 2006, 03:08 PM)Thor... Jan 27 2006, 02:19 AM
exobioquest Wait a minute isn't there a free return orbit ... Jan 27 2006, 03:25 AM
dvandorn QUOTE (nprev @ Jan 26 2006, 08:29 PM)Hmm. Yes... Jan 27 2006, 04:09 AM
lyford the thunder god went for a ride
upon his favorite ... Jan 27 2006, 05:50 AM
nprev ...I actually was thinking of an old Mother Goose ... Jan 28 2006, 06:20 AM
BruceMoomaw No seismometer on Phoenix or MSL; but there curren... Jan 29 2006, 03:41 AM
ljk4-1 QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Jan 28 2006, 10:41 PM)No... Jan 29 2006, 03:48 AM
nprev QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Jan 28 2006, 08:41 PM)No... Jan 29 2006, 06:21 AM
BruceMoomaw QUOTE (AlexBlackwell @ Jan 27 2006, 03:59 PM)... Jan 29 2006, 03:43 AM
AlexBlackwell QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Jan 29 2006, 03:43 AM)La... Jan 30 2006, 06:40 PM
BruceMoomaw The inability of the Viking 2 seismometer to detec... Jan 29 2006, 04:15 AM
edstrick Note that the Viking seismometer <VL-2> did ... Jan 29 2006, 11:12 AM
edstrick Oh.. and Phoenix is not expected to have an extend... Jan 29 2006, 11:18 AM
hal_9000 opera mini test Jan 30 2006, 07:48 PM
djellison Martian penetrators I can understand, a couple of ... Jan 30 2006, 08:02 PM
Bob Shaw QUOTE (djellison @ Jan 30 2006, 09:02 PM)Mart... Jan 30 2006, 09:20 PM
djellison Perhaps you would have to have some sort of small ... Jan 30 2006, 09:35 PM
Bob Shaw QUOTE (djellison @ Jan 30 2006, 10:35 PM)Perh... Jan 30 2006, 09:42 PM
helvick The news reports on this talk about a 250kg impact... Jan 30 2006, 11:42 PM
BruceMoomaw The Europa Penetrator story, as I hinted earlier, ... Jan 31 2006, 12:50 AM
AlexBlackwell QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Jan 31 2006, 12:50 AM)Bu... Jan 31 2006, 01:33 AM
ljk4-1 QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Jan 30 2006, 07:50 PM)Bu... Jan 31 2006, 02:53 PM
RNeuhaus More details about the Thor's project extracte... Jan 31 2006, 03:09 AM
Bob Shaw A THOR-style impact mission might be the best reas... Jan 31 2006, 10:43 AM

helvick QUOTE (Bob Shaw @ Jan 31 2006, 11:43 AM)Why n... Jan 31 2006, 12:13 PM

paxdan QUOTE (helvick @ Jan 31 2006, 12:13 PM)We dea... Jan 31 2006, 12:34 PM

Bob Shaw QUOTE (paxdan @ Jan 31 2006, 01:34 PM)two oth... Jan 31 2006, 12:45 PM

dvandorn QUOTE (Bob Shaw @ Jan 31 2006, 06:45 AM)It wo... Jan 31 2006, 03:02 PM
djellison QUOTE (RNeuhaus @ Jan 31 2006, 03:09 AM)The p... Jan 31 2006, 11:04 AM
BruceMoomaw QUOTE (AlexBlackwell @ Jan 31 2006, 01:33 AM)... Jan 31 2006, 12:55 PM
Analyst I can't see a lot of science coming from this ... Jan 31 2006, 02:17 PM
BruceMoomaw QUOTE (ljk4-1 @ Jan 31 2006, 02:53 PM)Wo... Jan 31 2006, 04:33 PM
djellison "This Crater © B.Moomaw 2018" Jan 31 2006, 04:39 PM
BruceMoomaw That would be even more appropriate, since I'v... Jan 31 2006, 09:22 PM![]() ![]() |
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