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post Jan 26 2006, 03:46 PM
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A new, low-cost mission concept to Mars would slam a projectile into the planet's surface in an attempt to look for subsurface water ice.

"I'm interested in exploring mid-latitude areas of Mars that look like they're made of snow and ice," Phil Christensen, the project's principal investigator, told SpaceDaily.com.

Christensen, of Arizona State University, and colleagues at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, are proposing a mission called THOR for Tracing Habitability, Organics and Resources as part of NASA's Mars Scout program.

Like last year's Deep Impact mission to comet Tempel 1, THOR aims to ram a projectile at high speed into the surface of Mars while a host spacecraft remains in orbit and observes the impact and its aftermath. If approved by NASA, the mission would launch in 2011.


That mission would be after MSL's mission. Now it is still a proposal smile.gif It would cost around US$ 450 millions

More details: http://www.spacedaily.com/reports/THOR_Mar...ound_Water.html

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post Jan 26 2006, 11:08 PM
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Thor-Able was a precursor to the modern Delta LV's iirc, and there's one about 5 miles from here at the National Space Centre

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post Jan 27 2006, 02:23 AM
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I would rather see a mars atmospheric sample return probe for 2011, which seems to have the best science per dollar ratio. But slamming a probe into mars does sounds cheap, a lot cheaper then $450 million!, I mean all you need a very simpler probe with a mission life of 6-9months, and a lot of dead weight, lets see a 1000kg probe going at 4km/s would produce about 8,000,000,000 joules or ~1.9 metric tons of TNT in energy, about the size of a large dumb bomb.
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QUOTE (exobioquest @ Jan 26 2006, 07:23 PM)
I would rather see a mars atmospheric sample return probe for 2011, which seems to have the best science per dollar ratio. But slamming a probe into mars does sounds cheap, a lot cheaper then $450 million!, I mean all you need a very simpler probe with a mission life of 6-9months, and a lot of dead weight, lets see a 1000kg probe going at 4km/s would produce about 8,000,000,000 joules or ~1.9 metric tons of TNT in energy, about the size of a large dumb bomb.
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Hmm. Yes, that much kinetic energy would leave anything Thor... rolleyes.gif

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- RNeuhaus   "thor" Mars Mission To Seek Underground Water   Jan 26 2006, 03:46 PM
- - Marz   QUOTE (RNeuhaus @ Jan 26 2006, 09:46 AM)THOR ...   Jan 26 2006, 05:06 PM
|- - gpurcell   QUOTE (Marz @ Jan 26 2006, 05:06 PM)When all ...   Jan 26 2006, 05:09 PM
- - djellison   I suppose you have MRO there to image the crater a...   Jan 26 2006, 05:12 PM
- - Chmee   Strange that this would be named THOR since that w...   Jan 26 2006, 05:18 PM
|- - MahFL   And what would the chances of say hitting MSL by a...   Jan 26 2006, 06:03 PM
- - Canopus   The search for methane will also be included. Hop...   Jan 26 2006, 06:07 PM
- - RNeuhaus   Hope that the impactor would make a crater close e...   Jan 26 2006, 07:05 PM
- - BruceMoomaw   The "Thor" name applied to both projects...   Jan 26 2006, 11:04 PM
|- - AlexBlackwell   QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Jan 26 2006, 11:04 PM)It...   Jan 27 2006, 03:59 PM
- - djellison   Thor-Able was a precursor to the modern Delta LV...   Jan 26 2006, 11:08 PM
|- - mchan   QUOTE (djellison @ Jan 26 2006, 03:08 PM)Thor...   Jan 27 2006, 02:19 AM
|- - exobioquest   I would rather see a mars atmospheric sample retur...   Jan 27 2006, 02:23 AM
|- - nprev   QUOTE (exobioquest @ Jan 26 2006, 07:23 PM)I ...   Jan 27 2006, 02:29 AM
|- - exobioquest   Wait a minute isn't there a free return orbit ...   Jan 27 2006, 03:25 AM
|- - dvandorn   QUOTE (nprev @ Jan 26 2006, 08:29 PM)Hmm. Yes...   Jan 27 2006, 04:09 AM
- - lyford   the thunder god went for a ride upon his favorite ...   Jan 27 2006, 05:50 AM
- - nprev   ...I actually was thinking of an old Mother Goose ...   Jan 28 2006, 06:20 AM
- - BruceMoomaw   No seismometer on Phoenix or MSL; but there curren...   Jan 29 2006, 03:41 AM
|- - ljk4-1   QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Jan 28 2006, 10:41 PM)No...   Jan 29 2006, 03:48 AM
|- - nprev   QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Jan 28 2006, 08:41 PM)No...   Jan 29 2006, 06:21 AM
- - BruceMoomaw   QUOTE (AlexBlackwell @ Jan 27 2006, 03:59 PM)...   Jan 29 2006, 03:43 AM
|- - AlexBlackwell   QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Jan 29 2006, 03:43 AM)La...   Jan 30 2006, 06:40 PM
- - BruceMoomaw   The inability of the Viking 2 seismometer to detec...   Jan 29 2006, 04:15 AM
- - edstrick   Note that the Viking seismometer <VL-2> did ...   Jan 29 2006, 11:12 AM
- - edstrick   Oh.. and Phoenix is not expected to have an extend...   Jan 29 2006, 11:18 AM
- - hal_9000   opera mini test   Jan 30 2006, 07:48 PM
- - djellison   Martian penetrators I can understand, a couple of ...   Jan 30 2006, 08:02 PM
|- - Bob Shaw   QUOTE (djellison @ Jan 30 2006, 09:02 PM)Mart...   Jan 30 2006, 09:20 PM
- - djellison   Perhaps you would have to have some sort of small ...   Jan 30 2006, 09:35 PM
|- - Bob Shaw   QUOTE (djellison @ Jan 30 2006, 10:35 PM)Perh...   Jan 30 2006, 09:42 PM
|- - helvick   The news reports on this talk about a 250kg impact...   Jan 30 2006, 11:42 PM
- - BruceMoomaw   The Europa Penetrator story, as I hinted earlier, ...   Jan 31 2006, 12:50 AM
|- - AlexBlackwell   QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Jan 31 2006, 12:50 AM)Bu...   Jan 31 2006, 01:33 AM
|- - ljk4-1   QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Jan 30 2006, 07:50 PM)Bu...   Jan 31 2006, 02:53 PM
- - RNeuhaus   More details about the Thor's project extracte...   Jan 31 2006, 03:09 AM
|- - Bob Shaw   A THOR-style impact mission might be the best reas...   Jan 31 2006, 10:43 AM
||- - helvick   QUOTE (Bob Shaw @ Jan 31 2006, 11:43 AM)Why n...   Jan 31 2006, 12:13 PM
||- - paxdan   QUOTE (helvick @ Jan 31 2006, 12:13 PM)We dea...   Jan 31 2006, 12:34 PM
||- - Bob Shaw   QUOTE (paxdan @ Jan 31 2006, 01:34 PM)two oth...   Jan 31 2006, 12:45 PM
||- - dvandorn   QUOTE (Bob Shaw @ Jan 31 2006, 06:45 AM)It wo...   Jan 31 2006, 03:02 PM
|- - djellison   QUOTE (RNeuhaus @ Jan 31 2006, 03:09 AM)The p...   Jan 31 2006, 11:04 AM
- - BruceMoomaw   QUOTE (AlexBlackwell @ Jan 31 2006, 01:33 AM)...   Jan 31 2006, 12:55 PM
- - Analyst   I can't see a lot of science coming from this ...   Jan 31 2006, 02:17 PM
- - BruceMoomaw   QUOTE (ljk4-1 @ Jan 31 2006, 02:53 PM)Wo...   Jan 31 2006, 04:33 PM
- - djellison   "This Crater © B.Moomaw 2018"   Jan 31 2006, 04:39 PM
- - BruceMoomaw   That would be even more appropriate, since I'v...   Jan 31 2006, 09:22 PM


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