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Bjorn Jonsson
post Feb 1 2006, 11:10 PM
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Has anyone had problems accessing www.unmannedspaceflight.com recently ? Since last weekend I haven't been able to access it from home but if I use a computer at work (as I'm obviously doing now ;-) ) there are no problems.

This is the only website I'm having any problems accessing so this is really weird.
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djellison
post Feb 8 2006, 09:41 AM
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That would make a lot of sense. UMSF is indeed entirely DB driven, PHP, SQL and Apache all have to work to serve each page. If for some reason you have a local cached version perhaps with your ISP or work network - that would 'break' it.

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post Feb 8 2006, 03:39 PM
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I've had some occasional issues with UMSF not refreshing well (or at all quickly), but it's been a while since I've had a really hard time staying connected. And when I do have a problem, it's usually a SQL error and not a DNS lookup issue that's killing me.

However, I'm seeing a more subtle behavior issue lately. Keep in mind, I'll often start reading posts here, go off and do other things, and come back to read more posts -- all without logging in or out of the site.

Now we all know that when you first bring the site up, the forum and sub-forum icons show you if there are unread posts in those fora. When you get into the topic lists, of course, there is a small red flag next to individual threads if they contain unread posts.

When I leave the site up but unattended for a while (especially when displaying a given thread or sub-forum topic list) and then go back to the main forum list, the forum icons reset to an "all read" status, even if I haven't gone into those fora during this visit. I end up checking the last-post timestamps at the forum levels to see if there might be unread posts out there that I haven't seen.

It's not a huge inconvenience (if I didn't care about keeping my reading organized into fora, I could just look at the recent posts lists). But it is a glitch in the proper operation of the Invision board software, so I thought I'd mention it.

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post Feb 8 2006, 03:53 PM
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QUOTE (dvandorn @ Feb 8 2006, 04:39 PM)
When I leave the site up but unattended for a while (especially when displaying a given thread or sub-forum topic list) and then go back to the main forum list, the forum icons reset to an "all read" status, even if I haven't gone into those fora during this visit.  I end up checking the last-post timestamps at the forum levels to see if there might be unread posts out there that I haven't seen.
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I'm seeing something similar. I generally tend to use the "View New Posts" button to monitor activity and it has worked pretty reliably up until recently. I've noticed occassional posts in the past that I missed but over the last week or two I've seen a lot and yesterday I noticed that the list "cleared" almost completely between two sessions even though I hadn't read any of them.

It's not a big deal for me either, more of an inconvenience as you say, but just thought I'd flag it as something I'd noticed.
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post Feb 9 2006, 07:31 PM
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I have noticed this as well but it's a minor inconvenience.

The big issue for me is accessing UMSF from home. I seriously doubt it's a caching issue. When 'tracert' ends with star.dnsprotect.com (as in one of the sample traceroute outputs I posted on page 1 in this thread) I can access UMSF from home; when it doesn't I can't access it from home but can access it from work. The tracert output is identical from home and work except for the first few entries.

I wonder if this might be a problem at gig0-1.l3-atl-5.gnax.net [209.51.131.94]

At the moment I cannot access UMSF at home; several hours ago I could. The situation was similar yesterday, a 'window' for a few hours when I could access UMSF from home.

Maybe I should try complaining to my ISP and pretend I have no idea of tracert etc. biggrin.gif.
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post Feb 9 2006, 11:06 PM
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This is really sounding like a load balancer issue to me. Your ISP may well be using load balancers to maintain even traffic on its server nodes. If one of those goes a little bad, this is the kind of thing that can happen. And it's hard as hell to track down.

Instead of pretending ignorance of such things, it might be best to simply tell them what you know and inquire as to whether they have been doing any tests on their load balancers.

Also, it's possible that your ISP is using a larger provider's servers, and has limited control over some of the nodes it uses. And that includes load balancing on those nodes. So, that might be a good data point to pin down with them, as well -- if you can.

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- Bjorn Jonsson   Cannot Access Umsf From Home   Feb 1 2006, 11:10 PM
- - elakdawalla   QUOTE (Bjorn Jonsson @ Feb 1 2006, 03:10 PM)H...   Feb 2 2006, 12:07 AM
|- - Bob Shaw   QUOTE (elakdawalla @ Feb 2 2006, 01:07 AM)I...   Feb 2 2006, 12:13 AM
|- - Bjorn Jonsson   Weird - it works now for the first time since last...   Feb 2 2006, 12:14 AM
- - um3k   It's working for me now.   Feb 2 2006, 04:19 AM
- - djellison   I've not had any problem at any point from eit...   Feb 2 2006, 08:58 AM
- - Bill Harris   Once in a while UMSF will "time out" and...   Feb 2 2006, 10:37 AM
|- - Bjorn Jonsson   The problem has reappeared - I again cannot access...   Feb 3 2006, 07:40 PM
||- - Bob Shaw   QUOTE (Bjorn Jonsson @ Feb 3 2006, 08:40 PM)T...   Feb 3 2006, 11:24 PM
||- - helvick   QUOTE (Bjorn Jonsson @ Feb 3 2006, 08:40 PM)S...   Feb 4 2006, 07:16 PM
||- - Bjorn Jonsson   Now I'm again unable to access UMSF from home....   Feb 7 2006, 11:49 PM
||- - MahFL   Did you setup a hosts file ? If you did and the ta...   Feb 8 2006, 01:02 AM
|- - mars loon   QUOTE (Bill Harris @ Feb 2 2006, 10:37 AM)Onc...   Feb 4 2006, 03:11 PM
- - PhilCo126   An interesting topic just to find out on which kin...   Feb 3 2006, 08:25 PM
- - djellison   It's a package from www.imhosted.com CODEOper...   Feb 3 2006, 10:49 PM
- - djellison   Still 100% for me from both work and home- I reall...   Feb 8 2006, 08:21 AM
|- - Bob Shaw   QUOTE (djellison @ Feb 8 2006, 09:21 AM)Still...   Feb 8 2006, 09:39 AM
- - djellison   That would make a lot of sense. UMSF is indeed en...   Feb 8 2006, 09:41 AM
|- - dvandorn   I've had some occasional issues with UMSF not ...   Feb 8 2006, 03:39 PM
|- - helvick   QUOTE (dvandorn @ Feb 8 2006, 04:39 PM)When I...   Feb 8 2006, 03:53 PM
|- - Bjorn Jonsson   I have noticed this as well but it's a minor i...   Feb 9 2006, 07:31 PM
|- - dvandorn   This is really sounding like a load balancer issue...   Feb 9 2006, 11:06 PM
|- - Bjorn Jonsson   I emailed my ISP today and included several 't...   Feb 10 2006, 08:33 PM
- - djellison   I'm sure it's something that was probably ...   Feb 8 2006, 03:49 PM
- - djellison   Here's an idea - whenever you have trouble - d...   Feb 10 2006, 09:19 PM
|- - Bjorn Jonsson   QUOTE (djellison @ Feb 10 2006, 09:19 PM)...   Feb 16 2006, 01:00 PM
- - ElkGroveDan   RE: Cannot Access Umsf From Home   Feb 10 2006, 09:41 PM
- - ElkGroveDan   I've noticed that when I access UMSF from home...   Feb 10 2006, 09:45 PM
|- - lyford   QUOTE (ElkGroveDan @ Feb 10 2006, 01:45 PM)I...   Feb 10 2006, 09:52 PM
|- - Bjorn Jonsson   QUOTE (ElkGroveDan @ Feb 10 2006, 09:45 PM)I...   Feb 10 2006, 09:55 PM
- - Tesheiner   Another idea, not to solve but at least to isolate...   Feb 16 2006, 01:26 PM
- - djellison   There are 5 blocked IP addresses currently, for pe...   Feb 16 2006, 03:04 PM
- - Analyst   I have the same problems: It works at work, it doe...   Feb 16 2006, 04:20 PM
- - DFinfrock   Same problem here. I read UMSF at work while eati...   Feb 17 2006, 02:24 AM
|- - Bjorn Jonsson   I would be very interested in seeing a 'tracer...   Feb 17 2006, 09:44 AM
|- - DFinfrock   QUOTE (Bjorn Jonsson @ Feb 17 2006, 09:44...   Feb 23 2006, 11:50 PM
- - djellison   tracert's people - tracert - then I can submi...   Feb 17 2006, 09:48 AM
- - Analyst   I will do, now I know what you're talkig about...   Feb 17 2006, 02:14 PM
|- - djellison   QUOTE (Analyst @ Feb 17 2006, 02:14 PM) I...   Feb 17 2006, 03:15 PM
- - Analyst   Any news? I have sent you a tracert, Doug.   Feb 21 2006, 12:56 PM
- - djellison   There's a common node that's causing troub...   Feb 21 2006, 01:21 PM
|- - Bjorn Jonsson   Hmmm... this looks like a trace from a computer th...   Feb 25 2006, 10:51 PM
- - djellison   Nothing - they've said they're investigati...   Feb 25 2006, 11:31 PM
- - djellison   I've submitted 3 more tracert's to the hos...   Mar 2 2006, 10:12 AM
|- - Bjorn Jonsson   This is great news. I contacted my ISP and (as I w...   Mar 2 2006, 04:59 PM
||- - ugordan   QUOTE (Bjorn Jonsson @ Mar 2 2006, 05:59 ...   Mar 2 2006, 05:22 PM
||- - Bjorn Jonsson   QUOTE (ugordan @ Mar 2 2006, 05:22 PM) Ha...   Mar 2 2006, 05:25 PM
||- - ugordan   QUOTE (Bjorn Jonsson @ Mar 2 2006, 06:25 ...   Mar 2 2006, 05:27 PM
||- - Bob Shaw   QUOTE (ugordan @ Mar 2 2006, 05:27 PM) I...   Mar 2 2006, 07:57 PM
|- - Bjorn Jonsson   QUOTE (djellison @ Mar 2 2006, 10:12 AM) ...   Mar 13 2006, 12:25 AM
- - paxdan   i'm gonna add this to the this thread as it is...   Mar 2 2006, 11:11 PM
|- - jamescanvin   QUOTE (paxdan @ Mar 3 2006, 10:11 AM) i...   Mar 2 2006, 11:55 PM
- - djellison   And I'm getting nothing back from the host eit...   Mar 13 2006, 07:54 AM
- - Bill Harris   And the past week or so I've been getting ...   Mar 13 2006, 11:39 AM
- - djellison   I need the IP of any connection from which people ...   Mar 13 2006, 01:07 PM
- - djellison   From the host "Please note that the ip 10.89...   Mar 13 2006, 04:04 PM
|- - Bjorn Jonsson   Everything works now and I can access UMSF from ho...   Mar 13 2006, 05:10 PM
- - Analyst   Whatever has been done: It works from home for the...   Mar 13 2006, 06:24 PM
- - DFinfrock   Yes!!!!! It is working for m...   Mar 14 2006, 01:41 AM
|- - Bjorn Jonsson   Well, this only worked for a few hours . Now I ...   Mar 14 2006, 05:33 PM
|- - Bjorn Jonsson   Maybe I'm getting impatient but are there any ...   Mar 15 2006, 11:32 PM
|- - DFinfrock   I am still able to access UMSF from home. (Althou...   Mar 16 2006, 02:09 AM
- - Analyst   It's not working for me anymore eighter. Anal...   Mar 16 2006, 07:27 AM
|- - djellison   QUOTE (Analyst @ Mar 16 2006, 07:27 AM) I...   Mar 16 2006, 08:29 AM
|- - Bjorn Jonsson   Now I'm suddenly able to access UMSF from home...   Mar 16 2006, 06:48 PM
- - Bill Harris   My access to UMSF has improved with my new ISP (be...   Mar 18 2006, 01:02 AM


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