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Southern Storm, Visible in Amateur Scopes
SigurRosFan
post Feb 14 2006, 06:14 PM
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--- The storm's north-south dimension is about 3,500 kilometers (2,175 miles); it is located at minus 36 degrees (planetocentric) latitude and 168 degrees west longitude. ---

Cassini (reprojected view):


- http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/catalog/PIA07789 - Storm at Night (Reprojected View)

- http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/catalog/PIA07788 - Storm at Night (Limb View)

- http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/catalog/PIA02166 - Lightning Sounds from Saturn (Audio)


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post Apr 20 2006, 11:40 AM
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SATURN DAILY

- Saturn Storms Dwarf Earth Hurricanes In Size And Longevity

http://www.spacedaily.com/reports/Saturn_S..._Longevity.html

Pasadena CA (SPX) Apr 20, 2006 - Viewed from space, hurricanes on Earth and the
huge atmospheric disturbances observed on Saturn look similar, but their
differences are greater, offering intriguing insights into the inner workings of
the ringed world currently being investigated by NASA's Cassini spacecraft.


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post Apr 21 2006, 05:40 AM
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Looking to the last raw Cassini images of Saturn atmosphere, I was intrigued by the presence of many bright spot apparently located only in the planet, especially close to terminator and more visible in the longer-exposure MT3 filtered images; absence of these spots in the dark background sky suggest they could be real features, perhaps lighting! (look at this, for example).
In order to be sure, I compared two distinct MT3 images and discovered that most bright points share exactly same positions, suggesting they are sensor related hot spots; here the result of two images subtraction:
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Most spots disappears but there are some residual that should be temporal variations and one of them, in particular, is relevant (in the upper/right portion of first image).
Could be lighting, but I suspect cosmic rays is the most probable cause... rolleyes.gif


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post Apr 21 2006, 07:30 AM
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QUOTE (dilo @ Apr 21 2006, 06:40 AM) *
Could be lighting, but I suspect cosmic rays is the most probable cause... rolleyes.gif

Your third image shows that the spots are distributed even across dark sky portions and are likely less visible there in the raw images due to histogram stretching and other factors. It's pretty clear these features are just noise, if they indeed share the same pixel position between frames they are most likely to be due to accumulated CCD damage (and enhanced by a long exposure) and cosmic ray hits being the other random stuff that's left when you subtract the two images.

I don't know if lightning was so far ever visually observed at Saturn, but it seems to be located too deep below the clouds to be readily visible. The methane filter is probably not a good choice for hunting lightning, a polarizer in front of it is even worse. A special filter was placed on NAC that's very rarely used and its purpose is probably lightning detection. It's the HAL filter, which I guess stands for hydrogen alpha and thus detects emissions from ionized hydrogen.


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post Apr 21 2006, 08:03 PM
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Very fun, Bob biggrin.gif . And thanks for the infos, ugordan.. I didn't know about HAL filter, anyway your explaination about bright spots sounds right (and in fact I was very skeptic about lighting explaination).


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post May 11 2006, 05:50 AM
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On May,08 Cassini Narrow-field camera taken many images of saturn atmosphere through green and CB3 filters, from about 2.8 million Km.
This is a stitch of 5 CB3 images (better showing atmospheric features):
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post May 25 2006, 05:58 AM
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Sequence of CB2 and CL2 filtered images taken on May,23:
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Posts in this topic
- SigurRosFan   Southern Storm   Feb 14 2006, 06:14 PM
- - ljk4-1   Glad to know that Cassini is finally studying it...   Feb 14 2006, 06:58 PM
- - SigurRosFan   Dragon Storm part two? --- The storm is in a simi...   Feb 15 2006, 09:39 AM
- - deglr6328   First thought: OH NOES!! Second thought a...   Feb 15 2006, 09:52 AM
|- - ljk4-1   Science/Astronomy: * Biggest Lightning Storm Ever...   Feb 15 2006, 06:26 PM
- - Sunspot   I think this could be another shot of it: http://...   Feb 17 2006, 06:47 PM
|- - dilo   QUOTE (Sunspot @ Feb 17 2006, 07:47 PM) I...   Feb 20 2006, 09:50 PM
- - JTN   Quoting from the discussion in the Northern Clouds...   Feb 19 2006, 10:29 PM
- - Sunspot   http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/multimedia/imag...eiIma...   Feb 20 2006, 09:45 AM
- - ljk4-1   The Storm Rages On Thu, 30 Mar 2006 - This Cassin...   Apr 7 2006, 03:26 PM
- - ljk4-1   Saturn's Speedy Spin Sparks Spectacular Storms...   Apr 19 2006, 03:08 PM
- - ljk4-1   SATURN DAILY - Saturn Storms Dwarf Earth Hurrican...   Apr 20 2006, 11:40 AM
- - dilo   Looking to the last raw Cassini images of Saturn a...   Apr 21 2006, 05:40 AM
- - ugordan   QUOTE (dilo @ Apr 21 2006, 06:40 AM) Coul...   Apr 21 2006, 07:30 AM
- - Bob Shaw   QUOTE (ugordan @ Apr 21 2006, 08:30 AM) I...   Apr 21 2006, 07:33 PM
- - dilo   Very fun, Bob . And thanks for the infos, ugorda...   Apr 21 2006, 08:03 PM
- - dilo   On May,08 Cassini Narrow-field camera taken many i...   May 11 2006, 05:50 AM
- - dilo   Sequence of CB2 and CL2 filtered images taken on M...   May 25 2006, 05:58 AM


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