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Feb 14 2006, 06:27 PM
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The Planetary Society has issued a call to action, for people to contact House Science Committee Chairman Rep. Sherwood Boehlert (R-NY) to demand that NASA not cut their 2006 spending on science priorities like Europa before their 2007 budget has even taken effect; and to demand that they reconsider their priorities in the 2007 budget. Go to our Space Advocacy page for more on how to participate in this campaign. Please participate!
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Apr 27 2006, 10:29 AM
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It would be more accurate to say that missions designed to study the satellites of the outer planets seem to require Flagship-class missions. Missions to study the giant planets themselves can consist simply either of Juno-type orbiters or of flybys that drop off entry probes and relay their data back to Earth -- and in either case, a New Frontiers-type mission is feasible. But Jupiter and Saturn orbiters that fly by their satellites and examine them may break the NF cost cap -- that isn't certain -- and certainly missions that orbit or land on the satellites seem to (although it's just barely possible that we might be able to design a Titan orbiter or stationary lander within the NF cap, given our unique ability to use Titan's atmosphere for aerobraking and thus cut down drastically on the mass of propellant needed by the craft).
There seems to be a consensus developing recently that the next mission to study a giant planet itself after Juno should consist of a craft to fly by Saturn without stopping and drop off one to three Galileo-type vented entry probes, as well as doing Juno-type microwave spectrometry of the planet (an instrument which Cassini lacks), to study its atmospheric composition and structure. This craft could almost certainly be NF-class -- it could even use solar power at that distance for that particular kind of mission. Similar missions could be flown for Uranus and Neptune, which could also somewhat extend Voyager 2's imaging and spectrometry of the Uranus and Neptune systems -- and all such missions could provide adequate "context" for the entry probes. But if you want to study those two planets' moons and rings in any detail, or observe long-term changes in their weather and magnetospheres, you will also need a Flagship-class orbiter. |
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Apr 28 2006, 05:55 PM
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There seems to be a consensus developing recently that the next mission to study a giant planet itself after Juno should consist of a craft to fly by Saturn without stopping and drop off one to three Galileo-type vented entry probes, as well as doing Juno-type microwave spectrometry of the planet (an instrument which Cassini lacks), to study its atmospheric composition and structure. This craft could almost certainly be NF-class -- it could even use solar power at that distance for that particular kind of mission. Similar missions could be flown for Uranus and Neptune, which could also somewhat extend Voyager 2's imaging and spectrometry of the Uranus and Neptune systems -- and all such missions could provide adequate "context" for the entry probes. What about a Saturn/Uranus or Neptune flyby (with perhaps one probe for the second target)? Seems to me if you're flinging an expensive piece of kit out there you ought to try for at least two planetary encounters. |
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elakdawalla Science Eviscerated In NASA Budget Feb 14 2006, 06:27 PM
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Stephen QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Feb 16 2006, 08:43 A... Feb 17 2006, 08:30 AM
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ht... Mar 27 2006, 05:56 PM
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Dawn has be... Mar 27 2006, 10:08 PM
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mars loon QUOTE (Jeff7 @ Mar 28 2006, 01:38 AM) Wha... Mar 29 2006, 01:00 AM
BruceMoomaw QUOTE (Jeff7 @ Mar 28 2006, 01:38 AM) Wha... Mar 29 2006, 01:19 AM
AlexBlackwell It's the Earth, Stupid
NASA's new budget b... Mar 29 2006, 06:42 PM
BruceMoomaw Easterbrook was singing a similar tune back in his... Mar 29 2006, 06:56 PM
AlexBlackwell QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Mar 29 2006, 06:56 P... Mar 29 2006, 08:47 PM
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mcaplinger QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Mar 30 2006, 10:58 P... Mar 31 2006, 07:21 AM
BruceMoomaw I've always heard that satellites are absolute... Mar 31 2006, 07:53 AM
mcaplinger QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Mar 30 2006, 11:53 P... Mar 31 2006, 04:30 PM
remcook ..and don't forget by far the largest part of ... Mar 31 2006, 01:38 PM
tty QUOTE (remcook @ Mar 31 2006, 03:38 PM) .... Mar 31 2006, 05:09 PM
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Bob Shaw Bruce:
Look on the bright side - the MEPAG folk t... Apr 25 2006, 03:08 PM
BruceMoomaw QUOTE (Bob Shaw @ Apr 25 2006, 03:08 PM) ... Apr 26 2006, 12:28 AM
elakdawalla QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Apr 25 2006, 05:28 P... Apr 26 2006, 03:42 PM
Bob Shaw QUOTE (elakdawalla @ Apr 26 2006, 04:42 P... Apr 26 2006, 08:42 PM
mcaplinger QUOTE (elakdawalla @ Apr 26 2006, 08:42 A... Apr 26 2006, 11:20 PM
Analyst QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Apr 21 2006, 01:37 P... Apr 25 2006, 03:33 PM
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Mariner9 I will agree that some missions just cry out for F... Apr 26 2006, 06:49 PM
Stephen QUOTE (Mariner9 @ Apr 26 2006, 06:49 PM) ... Apr 27 2006, 11:13 AM
Bob Shaw Stephen:
In another thread I suggested that unman... Apr 27 2006, 08:08 PM
Stephen QUOTE (Bob Shaw @ Apr 27 2006, 08:08 PM) ... Apr 28 2006, 03:05 AM
ljk4-1 QUOTE (Stephen @ Apr 27 2006, 11:05 PM) I... Apr 28 2006, 01:17 PM
BruceMoomaw I wondered if this might set Keithy howling again.... Apr 27 2006, 12:30 AM
Analyst QUOTE (Mariner9 @ Apr 26 2006, 06:49 PM) ... Apr 27 2006, 06:49 AM
mcaplinger QUOTE (Analyst @ Apr 26 2006, 11:49 PM) [... Apr 28 2006, 03:42 AM
Analyst It's not Cassisi's ISS, but you are right,... Apr 28 2006, 06:31 AM
BruceMoomaw The figure I have is 5-10 pictures per orbit. (I... Apr 28 2006, 08:50 AM
mcaplinger QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Apr 28 2006, 01:50 A... Apr 28 2006, 01:50 PM
PhilHorzempa QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Apr 28 2006, 04:50 A... May 3 2006, 03:07 AM
ljk4-1 NASA NEWS
- Mikulski Calls for Balanced Space Pro... Apr 28 2006, 02:38 PM
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Stephen QUOTE (dvandorn @ May 2 2006, 08:38 PM) S... May 3 2006, 02:27 AM
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PhilHorzempa QUOTE (ljk4-1 @ May 4 2006, 11:43 AM... May 17 2006, 02:55 AM
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Stephen QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ May 5 2006, 07:19 AM... May 9 2006, 09:39 AM
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gpurcell Just remember that the Senate is called the ... May 17 2006, 02:59 AM
dvandorn One more time....
The issue is *not* whether to p... May 17 2006, 10:15 AM
Bob Shaw oDoug:
Oh, I dunno - I'm sure that Mr Rutan w... May 17 2006, 11:08 AM
PhilHorzempa QUOTE (dvandorn @ May 17 2006, 06:15 AM) ... May 18 2006, 01:54 AM
dvandorn QUOTE (PhilHorzempa @ May 17 2006, 08:54 ... May 18 2006, 02:15 AM
Bob Shaw oDoug:
The historical 'stop-start' fundin... Jun 9 2006, 10:12 PM
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An Assessme... Jun 9 2006, 09:13 PM
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http://www.nature... Jun 10 2006, 10:50 PM
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