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Feb 16 2006, 07:07 AM
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Don't mean to compete against the Home Sweet Home thread, but I thought I'd put together a summary of the main observations and points discussed so far with regard to Home Plate, especially now that the thread is almost 20 pages long. I wouldn't be surprised that even after we eventually get the spectroscopy data, we'll probably still have a way to go before we get a handle on the origin of Home Plate.
So, anyways, I hope everybody finds the post of some use. The link is on my homepage. Cheers, Aldo.
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| Guest_Richard Trigaux_* |
Feb 24 2006, 01:09 PM
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I am very puzzled too they don't publish any results of analysis. But if they do so, they may have a serious reason. I note that, anyway, on the rovers site, they often comment events and image extensively, but just quote analysis results in some words "basaltic rock" or the like. See the results of Ultreya analysis, keeping in three words, when this mistery was a leitmotiv since months.
Climbing on top of Homeplate, as tdemko noted earlier, seems useless: ... I understand the need to get a view of the top of Homeplate...but, we could have easily guessed what we see now: the top of the cross-laminated upper unit, eroded and blasted by subsequent impacts. ... The only thing we learn from this is that the overal stratigraphy is nearby horizontal, a fact which was not obvious from the first side cross-section. (it sometimes happens that stratigraphy appears distorted close to a surface)But there may be a surprise with the analysis, or an unexpected difficulty. If Homeplate was simply some volcanic ash deposit, they would have found it easily and published immediatelly, as with Ultreya. If it was salt too. (after all, it is not the first salt we find on Mars). But their silence is tell tale of something else. either: -the composition is completelly unexpected or very interesting (for instance limestone) -the analysis were not conclusive, for instance Homeplate is a sandstone witht the grains and the cement of different compositions, as some microscopic imager images suggest. If so, the X ray spectrometer would show a mixture of the two spectra. Ok... contest: What's the silliest layered gunk we can come up with for lunatik-fringe specualtions on what Home Plate is made of? I cannot resist this guilty temptation... -thick layers of mantras left by tibetan monks billions years ago. Not bad enough? -Billion years old beach with still footprints of beautiful martian maiden... Still worse? -Damn that stupids had to step just on my heap of unpaid bills. |
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Feb 24 2006, 05:46 PM
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I am very puzzled too they don't publish any results of analysis. But if they do so, they may have a serious reason. I note that, anyway, on the rovers site, they often comment events and image extensively... My guess is they're simply too busy right now, probably a bit of a crisis, trying to get home plate taken care of as best they can before they have to leave. We'll see the results soon enough when Spirit departs. Ok... contest: What's the silliest layered gunk we can come up with for lunatik-fringe specualtions on what Home Plate is made of? Millions of years of guano! We've discovered an ancient giant martian bat nesting site! |
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| Guest_Richard Trigaux_* |
Feb 24 2006, 06:13 PM
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My guess is they're simply too busy right now, probably a bit of a crisis, trying to get home plate taken care of as best they can before they have to leave. We'll see the results soon enough when Spirit departs. I think that Homeplate is the most interesting site around, they should not depart so fast, and take the time to do what there is to do, without planning to come back one day (Spirit could stop working before). What is there to see in the hills that was not yet seen? Millions of years of guano! We've discovered an ancient giant martian bat nesting site! Eeeek! No wonder if they don't publish! Hey but... What happens if the bats ARE COMING BACK??? |
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Feb 24 2006, 06:18 PM
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I think that Homeplate is the most interesting site around, they should not depart so fast. There's no choice to be made. The rover WILL DIE SOON if they stay here much longer. There's no question - it's a fact. They HAVE to go toward that good slope, and they HAVE to go SOON. When Spring comes, when the conditions are better, and there's every chance Spirit will survive winter, then they can revisit HP and do a proper job on it. Doug |
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aldo12xu Home Plate Summary Feb 16 2006, 07:07 AM
Nix Very pleasing to read, as always, thanks Aldo... Feb 16 2006, 08:14 AM
Bill Harris Thanks, Aldo for that summary. Correct and concis... Feb 16 2006, 09:07 AM
jamescanvin Agreed, nice work Aldo. Nice to read somthing sens... Feb 16 2006, 09:22 AM
ljk4-1 MARSDAILY
- Roving The Red Planet
http://www.spa... Feb 16 2006, 02:27 PM
aldo12xu Glad everyone found the info useful. And thanks f... Feb 16 2006, 03:57 PM
SigurRosFan Fantastic image! Nice to see my virtual rover... Feb 16 2006, 04:24 PM
Zeke4ther Truly outstanding! Sure keeps things clear fo... Feb 16 2006, 04:42 PM
aldo12xu Oops, sorry about that, Nico. I'll fix it ton... Feb 16 2006, 04:51 PM
neb QUOTE (aldo12xu @ Feb 16 2006, 12:07 AM) ... Feb 16 2006, 06:56 PM
lyford Thanks, Aldo, always a pleasure to see what you ha... Feb 16 2006, 08:03 PM
vikingmars As a tribute and congratulations to Aldo for his F... Feb 18 2006, 12:44 PM
aldo12xu Merci beaucoup, Olivier!! Great images, a... Feb 18 2006, 05:20 PM
Nix Very nice work Olivier. Agreed Aldo.
Nico Feb 18 2006, 05:52 PM
RNeuhaus Very nice romantic color pictures from Mars with R... Feb 19 2006, 04:24 AM
Pavel Is there any information about composition of the ... Feb 22 2006, 10:02 PM
Shaka QUOTE (Pavel @ Feb 22 2006, 12:02 PM) Is ... Feb 22 2006, 11:20 PM
djellison QUOTE (Pavel @ Feb 22 2006, 10:02 PM) My ... Feb 23 2006, 08:47 AM
edstrick Ok... contest: What's the silliest layered gu... Feb 23 2006, 08:41 AM
ElkGroveDan QUOTE (edstrick @ Feb 23 2006, 08:41 AM) ... Feb 23 2006, 03:42 PM
edstrick ElkGroveDan': How about Chinese Onion Cakes?
... Feb 24 2006, 08:31 AM
stevo QUOTE (ElkGroveDan @ Feb 23 2006, 09:42 A... Feb 24 2006, 03:06 PM
ElkGroveDan QUOTE (stevo @ Feb 24 2006, 03:06 PM) I h... Feb 24 2006, 05:59 PM
odave ...and add to that the time factor: Spirit needs t... Feb 23 2006, 02:58 PM
tdemko Like just about everyone else, I'm waiting pat... Feb 23 2006, 05:25 PM
Bill Harris QUOTE As a human field geologist, I've always ... Feb 23 2006, 08:01 PM
ljk4-1 My question is, who is really running the show wit... Feb 23 2006, 08:11 PM
djellison Scientists say what they want
Engineers say what i... Feb 23 2006, 08:20 PM
RNeuhaus QUOTE (djellison @ Feb 23 2006, 03:20 PM)... Feb 24 2006, 01:53 AM
sattrackpro QUOTE (djellison @ Feb 23 2006, 01:20 PM)... Feb 24 2006, 03:26 AM
dvandorn QUOTE (djellison @ Feb 23 2006, 02:20 PM)... Feb 24 2006, 05:05 AM
ToSeek QUOTE (djellison @ Feb 23 2006, 08:20 PM)... Feb 24 2006, 07:51 PM
centsworth_II I am not a geologist, but as interesting as a circ... Feb 24 2006, 02:25 AM
Shaka QUOTE (centsworth_II @ Feb 23 2006, 04:25... Feb 24 2006, 05:05 AM
dvandorn Perhaps the hydrothermal or volcanic vent theories... Feb 24 2006, 05:14 AM
RNeuhaus QUOTE (dvandorn @ Feb 24 2006, 12:14 AM) ... Feb 24 2006, 03:56 PM
Holder of the Two Leashes QUOTE (Richard Trigaux @ Feb 24 2006, 12... Feb 24 2006, 11:17 PM
alan Any explanation for the rock to the right of spiri... Feb 24 2006, 01:15 PM
dvandorn QUOTE (alan @ Feb 24 2006, 07:15 AM) Any ... Feb 25 2006, 03:38 AM
neb QUOTE (dvandorn @ Feb 24 2006, 08:38 PM) ... Feb 25 2006, 03:54 AM
Bill Harris Odd. Let's look a the L7 R1 images as a stereo... Feb 24 2006, 01:49 PM
Nix I'd even say make the visit as short as possib... Feb 24 2006, 06:28 PM
lyford If it were a software engineer (s)he would have sa... Feb 24 2006, 08:35 PM
ljk4-1 Three men are awaiting execution at the guillotine... Feb 24 2006, 08:42 PM
Bob Shaw QUOTE (lyford @ Feb 24 2006, 08:35 PM) If... Feb 24 2006, 10:12 PM
Richard Trigaux My hypothesis as what homeplate would be evaporite... Mar 3 2006, 11:34 AM
paulanderson QUOTE (Richard Trigaux @ Mar 3 2006, 03:3... Mar 3 2006, 04:46 PM
Bob Shaw QUOTE (paulanderson @ Mar 3 2006, 04:46 P... Mar 3 2006, 08:06 PM

Richard Trigaux QUOTE (Bob Shaw @ Mar 3 2006, 09:06 PM) P... Mar 3 2006, 09:59 PM

paulanderson QUOTE (Bob Shaw @ Mar 3 2006, 12:06 PM) R... Mar 3 2006, 10:23 PM
RGClark QUOTE (paulanderson @ Mar 3 2006, 04:46 P... Mar 3 2006, 10:13 PM
edstrick Note that a lot of team members (and other planeta... Mar 3 2006, 12:01 PM
CosmicRocker Thanks especially for that last link, Paul. After... Mar 3 2006, 06:52 PM
Richard Trigaux That Homeplate would be volcanic is very likely.
... Mar 3 2006, 10:20 PM
vikingmars Well...
(i) to please all the Forum contributors ... Mar 4 2006, 03:50 PM
Bob Shaw QUOTE (vikingmars @ Mar 4 2006, 03:50 PM)... Mar 4 2006, 05:30 PM
Zeke4ther QUOTE (vikingmars @ Mar 4 2006, 10:50 AM)... Mar 4 2006, 06:39 PM
Phil Stooke The bomb sag images look very convincing... but pr... Mar 4 2006, 06:11 PM
aldo12xu Works of beauty, Olivier!!
....and yes, i... Mar 6 2006, 04:33 PM
Bill Harris QUOTE ....and yes, it looks like the case for a ma... Mar 7 2006, 01:52 AM
neb Bill: I have reviewed the images you refer to but ... Mar 7 2006, 04:48 AM
Richard Trigaux I somewhat agree and somewhat disagree with neb.
... Mar 7 2006, 07:56 AM
abalone Could it be that these layers in the distance and ... Mar 7 2006, 10:04 AM
neb QUOTE (abalone @ Mar 7 2006, 03:04 AM) Co... Mar 7 2006, 05:17 PM
Shaka QUOTE (neb @ Mar 7 2006, 07:17 AM) Abalon... Mar 7 2006, 07:06 PM
Bob Shaw QUOTE (Shaka @ Mar 7 2006, 07:06 PM) Hmmm... Mar 7 2006, 07:37 PM

paulanderson QUOTE (Bob Shaw @ Mar 7 2006, 11:37 AM) Y... Mar 7 2006, 07:58 PM

Shaka QUOTE (Bob Shaw @ Mar 7 2006, 09:37 AM) Y... Mar 7 2006, 08:30 PM

odave QUOTE (Shaka @ Mar 7 2006, 03:28 PM) How ... Mar 7 2006, 08:36 PM


Shaka QUOTE (odave @ Mar 7 2006, 10:36 AM) It a... Mar 7 2006, 09:16 PM


djellison QUOTE (Shaka @ Mar 7 2006, 09:16 PM) O.K.... Mar 7 2006, 09:29 PM


Shaka QUOTE (djellison @ Mar 7 2006, 11:29 AM) ... Mar 7 2006, 09:54 PM

Zeke4ther QUOTE (Shaka @ Mar 7 2006, 03:28 PM) Side... Mar 7 2006, 09:01 PM
imipak QUOTE (Shaka @ Mar 7 2006, 07:06 PM) Hmmm... Mar 7 2006, 08:33 PM

tty QUOTE (imipak @ Mar 7 2006, 09:33 PM) Sur... Mar 7 2006, 08:54 PM


Richard Trigaux QUOTE (tty @ Mar 7 2006, 09:54 PM) If the... Mar 7 2006, 09:23 PM

Bob Shaw QUOTE (imipak @ Mar 7 2006, 08:33 PM) Sur... Mar 7 2006, 08:56 PM

paulanderson QUOTE (Bob Shaw @ Mar 7 2006, 12:56 PM) T... Mar 7 2006, 09:10 PM

Shaka QUOTE (paulanderson @ Mar 7 2006, 11:10 A... Mar 7 2006, 09:26 PM
neb QUOTE (Shaka @ Mar 7 2006, 11:06 AM) Hmmm... Mar 7 2006, 10:56 PM
Bill Harris QUOTE The problem with a discrete volcanic vent is... Mar 7 2006, 09:26 PM
Phil Stooke chou fleur - cauliflower (he said cryptically)
P... Mar 7 2006, 09:37 PM
Richard Trigaux QUOTE (Phil Stooke @ Mar 7 2006, 10:37 PM... Mar 7 2006, 10:07 PM
Shaka QUOTE (Richard Trigaux @ Mar 7 2006, 12:0... Mar 7 2006, 11:51 PM
Richard Trigaux QUOTE (Shaka @ Mar 8 2006, 12:51 AM) Back... Mar 8 2006, 08:08 AM
tdemko Although everyone seems to be jumping on the all-v... Mar 8 2006, 12:08 AM
Shaka Lecture 4 - Right on the money. Mar 8 2006, 12:40 AM
monty python QUOTE (Shaka @ Mar 7 2006, 06:40 PM) Lect... Mar 8 2006, 03:15 AM
Phil Stooke Maxime Faget, designer of much of the early US man... Mar 8 2006, 03:35 AM
Shaka QUOTE (Phil Stooke @ Mar 7 2006, 05:35 PM... Mar 8 2006, 04:00 AM
general QUOTE (Shaka @ Mar 8 2006, 05:00 AM) What... Mar 8 2006, 08:51 AM
dvandorn What sort of stuff did Max Faget design? Lessee -... Mar 8 2006, 04:41 AM
Shaka QUOTE (dvandorn @ Mar 7 2006, 06:41 PM) W... Mar 8 2006, 07:16 AM
CosmicRocker QUOTE (Shaka @ Mar 7 2006, 01:06 PM) Hmmm... Mar 8 2006, 04:43 AM
Shaka QUOTE (CosmicRocker @ Mar 7 2006, 06:43 P... Mar 8 2006, 07:48 AM
Bill Harris Very good comments, Tim. I am still not lemming... Mar 8 2006, 09:08 AM![]() ![]() |
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