Nuking Venus |
Nuking Venus |
Feb 17 2006, 03:50 PM
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I was reading an online article on the various plans to explode nuclear weapons on the moon, when I spotted a reference to Soviet plans to 'calibrate' seismic models of Venus by exploding a nuclear weapon there, supposedly this planning went on until the 1970's which is well after the limited test ban treaty.
Obviously this would not have been a single craft mission, as seismographic equipment would have to have been emplaced before the explosion. Does anyone have any further information on just what was planned? |
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Feb 19 2006, 03:46 PM
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I wouldn't necessarily classify the idea as 'crazy'. Grossly irresponsible perhaps, a bad public relations move certainly, but not insane.
The basic science objective is understandable, using seismic waves to determine the interior composition of a planet or moon has been tried by the US, successfully on the Moon during the Apollo program and unsuccessfuly during the Viking mission to Mars. What the Soviets were probably planning to do was land several probes fitted with seismonitors on one side of Venus and detonate the nuke on the other side, this would give them the ability to amongst other things determine whether or not Venus has a liquid core. |
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Feb 19 2006, 10:24 PM
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A friend of mine who was a seismologist certainly complained that a problem (for geologists) is that there aren't enough earthquakes. Of course, for the rest of us, there are more than enough.
The thing about nuking Venus is that presumes we would even need to create a big blast. It may very well have quakes all the time. They probably wouldn't be so nice as to occur at the moment and magnitude and location that we desire, but we ought to check... |
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Feb 20 2006, 12:20 AM
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The thing about nuking Venus is that presumes we would even need to create a big blast. It may very well have quakes all the time. They probably wouldn't be so nice as to occur at the moment and magnitude and location that we desire, but we ought to check... It's not so much the need to create a big blast, but to do so within the lifetime of the probes on the surface of Venus that caused the Soviets to consider this, probe lifespan on the surface was between roughly 23 mintutes for Verena 7 to about 1 and a half hours for later probes. As noted the chance of a large enough earthquake in that time would have been remote, so the idea of starting their own would have become attractive. |
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gndonald Nuking Venus Feb 17 2006, 03:50 PM
Steffen Amazing (crazy) plans for Venus! Feb 19 2006, 10:48 AM
tty QUOTE (JRehling @ Feb 19 2006, 11:24 PM) ... Feb 20 2006, 07:21 AM
gndonald QUOTE (tty @ Feb 20 2006, 03:21 PM) Actua... Feb 20 2006, 04:08 PM
DonPMitchell I think seismology on Venus will be very valuable.... May 8 2006, 05:04 PM
Bob Shaw I think the various treaties covered objects in or... May 8 2006, 09:32 PM
DonPMitchell QUOTE (Bob Shaw @ May 8 2006, 02:32 PM) I... May 9 2006, 12:58 AM
gndonald QUOTE (DonPMitchell @ May 9 2006, 08:58 A... May 9 2006, 02:22 AM
ugordan QUOTE (gndonald @ May 9 2006, 03:22 AM) A... May 9 2006, 07:38 AM

DonPMitchell QUOTE (ugordan @ May 9 2006, 12:38 AM) Ye... May 9 2006, 09:49 AM


ugordan QUOTE (DonPMitchell @ May 9 2006, 10:49 A... May 9 2006, 10:08 AM

Bob Shaw Gordan:
Any idea of how much Pu got spread over F... May 9 2006, 11:05 AM

gndonald QUOTE (Bob Shaw @ May 9 2006, 07:05 PM) G... May 9 2006, 01:26 PM


Bob Shaw QUOTE (gndonald @ May 9 2006, 02:26 PM) G... May 9 2006, 02:01 PM


gndonald QUOTE (Bob Shaw @ May 9 2006, 10:01 PM) G... May 9 2006, 03:22 PM

ugordan QUOTE (Bob Shaw @ May 9 2006, 12:05 PM) A... May 10 2006, 07:50 AM

Bob Shaw QUOTE (ugordan @ May 10 2006, 08:50 AM) R... May 10 2006, 10:49 AM
ljk4-1 QUOTE (gndonald @ May 8 2006, 10:22 PM) A... May 9 2006, 02:26 PM
DonPMitchell QUOTE (ljk4-1 @ May 9 2006, 07:26 AM... May 9 2006, 06:18 PM
ljk4-1 QUOTE (DonPMitchell @ May 9 2006, 02:18 P... May 10 2006, 11:19 AM
ugordan QUOTE (ljk4-1 @ May 10 2006, 12:19 P... May 10 2006, 11:42 AM
DonPMitchell QUOTE (ugordan @ May 10 2006, 04:42 AM) I... May 10 2006, 12:26 PM
ugordan QUOTE (DonPMitchell @ May 10 2006, 01:26 ... May 10 2006, 12:53 PM
DonPMitchell QUOTE (ugordan @ May 10 2006, 05:53 AM) I... May 10 2006, 01:37 PM
BruceMoomaw Overall, I think this just proves again that there... Feb 20 2006, 01:14 AM
edstrick One mission (or instrument on a mission) that is e... Feb 20 2006, 08:42 AM
BruceMoomaw Personal courtesy was not one of Khrushchev's ... May 9 2006, 11:54 PM
DonPMitchell QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ May 9 2006, 04:54 PM... May 10 2006, 12:24 AM
ljk4-1 Here are more details and useful links on the Sovi... May 19 2006, 03:49 PM![]() ![]() |
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