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Stardust Analysis Results, initial results for comet Wild 2, including organic compounds |
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Feb 21 2006, 06:17 PM
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I thought the analysis results, as they come in, deserved their own thread. I'm interested in how these findings relate to the "weird crystals" found and reported on in the previous Nature article.
A couple more updates, from Space.com and MSNBC: Stardust Mission Yields Ancient Comet Dust http://space.com/scienceastronomy/060220_s...ust_update.html Comet Dust Sparks Scientific Intrigue http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11460590 "The early results reveal that the 4.5 billion-year-old comet contains iron, sulfides, glassy materials, olivine, and what the scientists termed potentially interesting isotopic traces. They believe that these materials were also available during the formation of other objects in our solar system. What's even more amazing is how well the first round of analysis is matching expectations. Brownlee and other Stardust scientists are holding back their first formal reports for a scientific meeting in Texas next month but during Monday's news conference, Brownlee said the samples studied so far contain iron sulfides and glassy material such as crystalline silicates. Those ingredients are found in meteorites as well. Later, Brownlee told MSNBC.com that there were preliminary indications of organic compounds, based on telltale infrared readings. He cautioned that the initial indications were tentative and could still be traced to contaminants. In the weeks and months ahead, Sandford and his team will be analyzing the types of carbon found in the samples not only to trace the organics, but also to determine whether such compounds predated the formation of the solar system." |
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Mar 14 2006, 10:00 AM
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In re this first press conference...
First, why no mention of the organic materials we've been hearing rumors about? A lot of discussion of minerals, but it took a reporter's question about organics for them to discuss it at all. And when they did, all they discussed was how difficult it is to differentiate between real organics in the samples and contamination from the lab. Are we to take it that we won't get *any* discussion of possible organics in the samples, because they're too gun-shy to ascribe organics to the samples themselves? Second, these guys seem really blown away by seeing high-temperature-differentiated minerals (olivines, pyroxines, anorthosites, etc.) in a body that accreted in the outer solar system. Anyone ever mention the T-Tauri winds to these guys? It's been known for a long time that the Sun blew all of the loose material from the solar nebula out into a shell at *least* as far out as the Kuiper belt during its T-Tauri stage. So why does it surprise anyone that we find grains of high-temperature minerals in bodies that accreted in the Kuiper belt? After all, those bodies had to have vacuumed up a lot of the dust and gasses pushed out from the inner system during the T-Tauri epoch, right? I guess it's just surprising to me how amazed these guys get when their results support decades-old theories... On the plus side, I heard one of the panel members state that Stardust@Home ought to get going in the next couple of weeks. I'm looking forward to hearing from them. -the other Doug -------------------- The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right. -Mark Twain
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paulanderson Stardust Analysis Results Feb 21 2006, 06:17 PM
The Messenger QUOTE (paulanderson @ Feb 21 2006, 11:17 ... Feb 24 2006, 08:35 PM
paulanderson Another article also, from Discovery Channel:
Com... Feb 27 2006, 01:45 AM
edstrick "Is the language of science so inprecise that... Feb 27 2006, 07:18 AM
The Messenger QUOTE (edstrick @ Feb 27 2006, 12:18 AM) ... Feb 27 2006, 03:47 PM
dvandorn QUOTE (The Messenger @ Feb 27 2006, 09:47... Feb 27 2006, 11:48 PM
Phil Stooke Right on, edstrick!
Phil Feb 27 2006, 02:02 PM
paulanderson Another article:
New Evidence Life on Earth Began... Mar 7 2006, 01:05 AM
The Messenger QUOTE (paulanderson @ Mar 6 2006, 06:05 P... Mar 7 2006, 04:50 PM
AlexBlackwell paulanderson, since I no longer post at the Space.... Mar 7 2006, 01:47 AM
paulanderson QUOTE (AlexBlackwell @ Mar 6 2006, 05:47 ... Mar 7 2006, 02:48 AM
AlexBlackwell QUOTE (paulanderson @ Mar 7 2006, 02:48 A... Mar 7 2006, 06:48 PM
dvandorn QUOTE (AlexBlackwell @ Mar 7 2006, 12:48 ... Mar 7 2006, 09:54 PM
AlexBlackwell QUOTE (dvandorn @ Mar 7 2006, 09:54 PM) A... Mar 7 2006, 10:03 PM
paulanderson Stardust news conference on March 13:
NASA Announ... Mar 7 2006, 07:46 AM
AlexBlackwell Erica Hupp/ Merrilee Fellows
Headquarters, Washing... Mar 13 2006, 10:11 PM
AlexBlackwell Emily just posted a new entry on this in her blog. Mar 13 2006, 10:25 PM
BruceMoomaw I have to admit that I don't understand why th... Mar 14 2006, 01:45 AM
AlexBlackwell QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Mar 14 2006, 01:45 A... Mar 14 2006, 02:03 AM
nprev QUOTE (AlexBlackwell @ Mar 13 2006, 06:03... Mar 14 2006, 03:20 AM
AlexBlackwell QUOTE (nprev @ Mar 14 2006, 03:20 AM) Hmm... Mar 15 2006, 07:16 PM
RGClark QUOTE (AlexBlackwell @ Mar 15 2006, 07:16... Mar 16 2006, 01:24 PM
RGClark QUOTE (RGClark @ Mar 16 2006, 01:24 PM) T... Mar 17 2006, 04:36 AM
BruceMoomaw It would be more accurate to say that low temperat... Mar 14 2006, 03:56 AM
RGClark QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Mar 14 2006, 03:56 A... Mar 14 2006, 11:46 AM
The Messenger QUOTE (dvandorn @ Mar 14 2006, 03:00 AM) ... Mar 14 2006, 02:52 PM
AlexBlackwell QUOTE (dvandorn @ Mar 14 2006, 10:00 AM) ... Mar 14 2006, 06:16 PM
edstrick I think one reason they're giving a lot of att... Mar 14 2006, 10:44 AM
BruceMoomaw Bear in mind that they are only talking about such... Mar 14 2006, 12:00 PM
edstrick RG Clark: "....This theory is controversial ... Mar 14 2006, 12:40 PM
RGClark QUOTE (edstrick @ Mar 14 2006, 12:40 PM) ... Mar 14 2006, 02:11 PM
AlexBlackwell Emily has another LPSC update. Mar 14 2006, 05:20 PM
AlexBlackwell Coincidentally, the February 2006 issue of Meteori... Mar 14 2006, 06:33 PM
The Messenger Thanks Emily, This is great!
QUOTE Zolensky c... Mar 14 2006, 07:24 PM
Gsnorgathon You'll note from Emily's update:
QUOTE Th... Mar 14 2006, 09:25 PM
AlexBlackwell QUOTE (Gsnorgathon @ Mar 14 2006, 09:25 P... Mar 14 2006, 10:11 PM
The Messenger QUOTE (Gsnorgathon @ Mar 14 2006, 02:25 P... Mar 15 2006, 03:22 PM
centsworth_II QUOTE (The Messenger @ Mar 15 2006, 10:22... Mar 15 2006, 04:35 PM
BruceMoomaw CAIs don't contain hematite -- the fact that t... Mar 17 2006, 03:37 PM
RGClark QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Mar 17 2006, 03:37 P... Mar 17 2006, 05:59 PM
BruceMoomaw In the case of the chondrules, this is because the... Mar 17 2006, 10:33 PM
RGClark QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Mar 17 2006, 10:33 P... Mar 17 2006, 10:44 PM
nprev I am beginning to wonder if cometary olivine and o... Mar 18 2006, 12:50 AM
ljk4-1 Jonas Dino
NASA Ames Research Center, Moffett Fie... Mar 30 2006, 04:45 PM
ljk4-1 http://stardust.jpl.nasa.gov/news/status/060512.ht... May 16 2006, 03:09 PM
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http://uanews.org/... Apr 6 2011, 04:13 PM
Holder of the Two Leashes A report out from JPL on the interstellar dust ana... Aug 15 2014, 02:38 PM
Explorer1 That's fine; analysis is more appropriate than... Aug 15 2014, 04:33 PM
algorithm I read the piece linked to and it included the fol... Aug 15 2014, 06:19 PM
Phil Stooke Contemporary = not in ocean sediments ?
Phil Aug 15 2014, 06:21 PM
Holder of the Two Leashes According to this report, the theory is these grai... Aug 20 2014, 04:31 AM![]() ![]() |
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