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Feb 25 2006, 12:43 AM
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1279 Joined: 25-November 04 Member No.: 114 |
Raw images started. Rhea! http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/multimedia/imag...heQ=0&storedQ=0
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Feb 25 2006, 01:17 PM
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1279 Joined: 25-November 04 Member No.: 114 |
More great images... http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/multimedia/imag...heQ=0&storedQ=0
I hope cassini imaged Tethys. I'm looking forward to seeing the polar areas seen poorly until now. |
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Feb 25 2006, 03:36 PM
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![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 3652 Joined: 1-October 05 From: Croatia Member No.: 523 |
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Feb 25 2006, 04:02 PM
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Feb 25 2006, 08:48 PM
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![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2492 Joined: 15-January 05 From: center Italy Member No.: 150 |
I made something similar with previous images taken 3 times farther (right color enhancement, image is sharpened too): -------------------- I always think before posting! - Marco -
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Feb 25 2006, 09:17 PM
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![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2492 Joined: 15-January 05 From: center Italy Member No.: 150 |
More great images... http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/multimedia/imag...heQ=0&storedQ=0 I hope cassini imaged Tethys. I'm looking forward to seeing the polar areas seen poorly until now. Here polar regions aren't very visible, but Thetys emerging from partially shadowed rings is truly amazing! http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/multimedia/imag...8/N00051353.jpg -------------------- I always think before posting! - Marco -
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Feb 25 2006, 10:40 PM
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![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2492 Joined: 15-January 05 From: center Italy Member No.: 150 |
Here polar regions aren't very visible, but Thetys emerging from partially shadowed rings is truly amazing! http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/multimedia/imag...8/N00051353.jpg And this is the animation! (different filters, so do not care for apparent rings bightness variations): -------------------- I always think before posting! - Marco -
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Feb 26 2006, 03:49 AM
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1279 Joined: 25-November 04 Member No.: 114 |
As nice as they are I expected better images!? Maybe they will come in the next upload batch.
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Feb 26 2006, 04:28 AM
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![]() Interplanetary Dumpster Diver ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 4408 Joined: 17-February 04 From: Powell, TN Member No.: 33 |
I made something similar with previous images taken 3 times farther (right color enhancement, image is sharpened too): Great work! -------------------- |
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Feb 26 2006, 07:28 AM
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![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2492 Joined: 15-January 05 From: center Italy Member No.: 150 |
Great work! Thanks, I forgot to say that it was a false color image based on MT/G/UV filters. -------------------- I always think before posting! - Marco -
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Feb 26 2006, 05:30 PM
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![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Moderator Posts: 3242 Joined: 11-February 04 From: Tucson, AZ Member No.: 23 |
I've moved the posts regarding images from Rev21 (~late February 2006) to this thread.
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Feb 26 2006, 05:57 PM
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Solar System Cartographer ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 10265 Joined: 5-April 05 From: Canada Member No.: 227 |
I've been very impatient for the first look at Helene. Here it is... a composite of six images. Saturnshine illuminates the right side. Another smoothy.
Phil -------------------- ... because the Solar System ain't gonna map itself.
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Feb 26 2006, 07:46 PM
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1279 Joined: 25-November 04 Member No.: 114 |
Saturnshine is a Lovely word! Nice!
OH JOY! Tetheys!!! I can't wait to see Steve Do his magic! http://saturn1.jpl.nasa.gov/multimedia/ima...heQ=0&storedQ=0 |
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Feb 26 2006, 10:59 PM
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![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2492 Joined: 15-January 05 From: center Italy Member No.: 150 |
-------------------- I always think before posting! - Marco -
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Feb 27 2006, 12:50 AM
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![]() SewingMachine ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 316 Joined: 27-September 05 From: Seattle Member No.: 510 |
-------------------- ...if you don't like my melody, i'll sing it in a major key, i'll sing it very happily. heavens! everybody's all aboard? let's take it back to that minor chord...
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Feb 27 2006, 03:53 AM
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Solar System Cartographer ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 10265 Joined: 5-April 05 From: Canada Member No.: 227 |
Excellent Tethys mosaic!
This image is derived from ugordan's Rhea color image... I used Photoshop's spherize filter (twice) to convert the map projection from orthographic to stereographic (approximately speaking). See how craters that were very foreshortened along the limb are made nearly circular in this projection. Phil -------------------- ... because the Solar System ain't gonna map itself.
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Feb 27 2006, 07:28 AM
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1870 Joined: 20-February 05 Member No.: 174 |
Phil: I've long thought a good way to handle distant moon and planet images was to convert them to a stereographic projection. For "extract all you can" processing... apply some procedure that estimates the fraction of limb-containing pixels that are off-disk and correct them to a best estimate "on disk" brightness. Then project to stereographic.
Calculate several overlay map-images for each stereographic image: Incidence angle, emission angle, pixel-size-in-km and phase angle. Using the geometry map-images and photometric functions, photometrically correct the images for incidence/emission/phase, and generate a quality weight for each pixel: Transform the images and the weighting masks into map projection. Multiply each image by it's weight mask and sum. sum each weight mask and divide the final summed map by the weight map to get optimally weighted mosaics. For colorimetry, weight is maximum at 0 deg normal incidence angle and zero at 90 deg terminator data. For relief mapping, weight is maximum at (maybe) 75 deg incidence and goes to low values at normal incidence and terminator (all shadows) illumination. Etc. Nice shot! |
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Feb 27 2006, 10:20 AM
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![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 3652 Joined: 1-October 05 From: Croatia Member No.: 523 |
Several Titan NAC raw frames are already down, taken from distant 400 000 Km. Most likely they're part of the ISS_021TI_GLOBMAP001_VIMS observation and downlinked during the first radio science pass.
http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/multimedia/imag...eiImageID=64420 Edit: Hm... this probably belongs to the Titan forum... Duh! -------------------- |
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Feb 27 2006, 11:12 AM
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![]() SewingMachine ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 316 Joined: 27-September 05 From: Seattle Member No.: 510 |
Here's a Rev 21 Tethys grab bag:
RGB composite overlay(crude): Analgyph: Spherized(thanks, Phil!): Basin: Perspectives of Tethys, 2004-2006(representative): -------------------- ...if you don't like my melody, i'll sing it in a major key, i'll sing it very happily. heavens! everybody's all aboard? let's take it back to that minor chord...
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Feb 27 2006, 01:50 PM
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Solar System Cartographer ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 10265 Joined: 5-April 05 From: Canada Member No.: 227 |
This really belongs in the 'reprocessing historic images' thread, but I'll be naughty and post it here (spank me!)
Tethys from Voyager 1... I'm posting it to show another view of the craters in this area. First, you can see the large southern craters, and even the big but very subdued basin north of the really big one (whose name is Melanthius). They are not new discoveries. Second, look at Penelope, the large crater in the middle of the disk. Very prominent in one image, invisible in the next (and well seen by Cassini). Why does it disappear? In the left-hand view the shading is albedo, not topographic shading. It just happens that the albedo and topographic shading cancel out in the right-hand view (think about how the sunlight falls on the crater walls). But also, see how Penelope falls on the border of a dark stripe, one of two on Tethys. Its pattern of light and dark is like the craters at the edge of Cassini Regio on Iapetus. Whatever explains Cassini Regio is presumably at work here. This is the best example, but not the only one, on Tethys. Phil -------------------- ... because the Solar System ain't gonna map itself.
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Feb 27 2006, 03:39 PM
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![]() Interplanetary Dumpster Diver ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 4408 Joined: 17-February 04 From: Powell, TN Member No.: 33 |
I am a bit confused. I have worked with the V-1 sequence, and the crater gets fainter, but I can't find the frames in which it disappears.
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Feb 27 2006, 05:45 PM
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Solar System Cartographer ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 10265 Joined: 5-April 05 From: Canada Member No.: 227 |
It's 349073, the one after your left-hand image here.
Here is my set of Voyager images of Tethys: Specially processed to enhance both topography and albedo. Phil -------------------- ... because the Solar System ain't gonna map itself.
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Feb 27 2006, 11:23 PM
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![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 3652 Joined: 1-October 05 From: Croatia Member No.: 523 |
I tried producing a color image of Helene, but to tell the truth -- the thing is as white as can be.
The left image is approximately true color using R/G/B filter combo, the middle is stretched color using IR1/GRN/UV3 filters and the third is the RGB image heavily color saturated to bring out very subtle color differences. The same result turns up if using the stretched color so I omitted it. As can be seen, the surface seen in visible wavelengths is very uniform and bland. -------------------- |
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Feb 27 2006, 11:33 PM
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Mar 2 2006, 12:35 AM
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1279 Joined: 25-November 04 Member No.: 114 |
Steve Albers has updated his Tetheys Map. http://laps.fsl.noaa.gov/albers/sos/saturn...rgb_cyl_www.jpg
Steve can previous post help with the mapping? It has some areas that can fill in some lower resolution areas. |
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Mar 2 2006, 02:00 PM
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Solar System Cartographer ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 10265 Joined: 5-April 05 From: Canada Member No.: 227 |
Steve's map of Tethys is very nice, as usual. Here are polar hemisphere versions of it - to be precise they are azimuthal equidistant projections, parallels of latitude are equally spaced.
Phil north: south: -------------------- ... because the Solar System ain't gonna map itself.
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Mar 2 2006, 11:30 PM
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1688 Joined: 5-March 05 From: Boulder, CO Member No.: 184 |
Steve Albers has updated his Tetheys Map. http://laps.fsl.noaa.gov/albers/sos/saturn...rgb_cyl_www.jpg Steve can previous post help with the mapping? It has some areas that can fill in some lower resolution areas. This indeed is worth a try Decepticon. It looks to provide new details in the northern and eastern portions of the image (from post #24). Even with the lower phase angle and muted contrast I can see it will be helping with the map. I'm also working on various adjustments to image brightnesses, navigation, etc. so I hope to post one or more updated versions in the upcoming days. Interesting (as always!) to see Phil's polar projections as well. -------------------- Steve [ my home page and planetary maps page ]
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Mar 5 2006, 02:27 PM
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![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2492 Joined: 15-January 05 From: center Italy Member No.: 150 |
Again on Helene imagery...
I processed the 6 frames from green/CL filters, using Registax for stacking and for detail enhancement (I'm just a beginner with this powerful software, but results are very encouraging Then I used UV/IR in order to have also a color version, but I had to enhance saturation (as ugordan): I made also a low luminosity enhancement of the B/W stacked image, in order to show faint details as already done by Phil (colors are due to different gamma curves assigned to the 3 components, not real!): Note: images are enlarged by 50% from original, so scale should be 270m/pixel. -------------------- I always think before posting! - Marco -
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Mar 5 2006, 10:06 PM
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![]() Interplanetary Dumpster Diver ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 4408 Joined: 17-February 04 From: Powell, TN Member No.: 33 |
Again on Helene imagery... I processed the 6 frames from green/CL filters, using Registax for stacking and for detail enhancement (I'm just a beginner with this powerful software, but results are very encouraging Then I used UV/IR in order to have also a color version, but I had to enhance saturation (as ugordan): I made also a low luminosity enhancement of the B/W stacked image, in order to show faint details as already done by Phil (colors are due to different gamma curves assigned to the 3 components, not real!): Note: images are enlarged by 50% from original, so scale should be 270m/pixel. If they release a b/w version that isn't autostretched on the photojournal, it would be neat to overlay your color version on top of it. Here's a Rev 21 Tethys grab bag: RGB composite overlay(crude):[ Analgyph: Spherized(thanks, Phil!): Basin: Perspectives of Tethys, 2004-2006(representative): Very nice! -------------------- |
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Mar 6 2006, 04:59 AM
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![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2530 Joined: 20-April 05 Member No.: 321 |
The Lagrangian satellites continue to appear very smooth. Is it possible that particles in other orbits "snow" out onto them? If so, they should look smoother than very small satellites in other orbits. Radar could say something about comparative smoothness... I don't know if it would be possible to do that from Earth, since only a point observation is needed.
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Mar 6 2006, 06:50 AM
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![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2492 Joined: 15-January 05 From: center Italy Member No.: 150 |
If they release a b/w version that isn't autostretched on the photojournal, it would be neat to overlay your color version on top of it. In fact, autostretch make impossible to establish the real hue of the satellite... we can only say somenthing about color differences in various regions. Anyway, I repeated previous work on the RGB pictures and results are showed below; now colors appear different! I suspect that feature in the top could be a huge crater rim, with central peak emerging from the darkness... -------------------- I always think before posting! - Marco -
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Mar 6 2006, 02:02 PM
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Solar System Cartographer ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 10265 Joined: 5-April 05 From: Canada Member No.: 227 |
Two replies... to JRehling about radar from Earth - they couldn't get enough return frrom a tiny satellite to make that work. Bistatic radar from Cassini might be possible (but very unlikely as geometry has to be perfect). But I think photometry (phase function) is really the key to doing this, and it will be easy with lots of images throughout the mission.
And to Dilo - I also think the top of the Helene image is a biig crater - don't agree about a central peak, though. But this is almost the same view as the one from Voyager 2, if I'm not mistaken, and that shows the crater nicely. Phil -------------------- ... because the Solar System ain't gonna map itself.
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Mar 9 2006, 11:06 PM
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1688 Joined: 5-March 05 From: Boulder, CO Member No.: 184 |
Greetings,
I've been updating my Tethys map along the lines of the discussion on post #27. This version also shows a bit more of the far southern crater that was near the limb in a recent NAC image. http://laps.noaa.gov/albers/sos/sos.html#TETHYS -------------------- Steve [ my home page and planetary maps page ]
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Mar 10 2006, 12:36 PM
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Greetings, I've been updating my Tethys map along the lines of the discussion on post #27. This version also shows a bit more of the far southern crater that was near the limb in a recent NAC image. http://laps.noaa.gov/albers/sos/sos.html#TETHYS I was using the "Solar System Simulator" just a little while ago, looking for chances for Cassini to image Tethys's south polar region. I Found one. Cassini pretty much directly over Tethys SP area (just like it was on May 2, 2005) at a distance of about 202,000km on November 9, 2006 at about 01:00 UTC. This should give about 1.5km/pixel resolution over all of this area. -------------------- I call heaven and earth to witness against you this day, that I have set before thee life and death, the blessing and the curse; therefore choose life, that thou mayest live, thou and thy seed.
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Mar 11 2006, 01:10 AM
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1688 Joined: 5-March 05 From: Boulder, CO Member No.: 184 |
Sure enough angel1801, here is a simulated image using Celestia at this URL:
http://laps.noaa.gov/albers/sos/saturn/tet...ys_celestia.jpg Here the relatively blank areas in the map represent good news as we'll get some first looks at new details on Nov 8-9, 2006. -------------------- Steve [ my home page and planetary maps page ]
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