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LPSC 2006, March 13-17, Anybody else going?
elakdawalla
post Mar 5 2006, 04:53 PM
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I just wanted to know if any other UMSFers are going to be in lovely Clear Lake, Texas for LPSC. I'll be there all week, Monday through the middle of Friday. While I don't think there'll be enough of us to generate our own party, perhaps we can plan to all attend one of the various social gatherings and meet up and raise a glass to Doug.

I'm not sure when or where the parties are yet, but they'll be late because they've really packed the schedule following the sessions this year. Here's what's happening in the evenings:
Sunday 5 pm: Registration/Reception
Monday 5 pm: We get to watch the NASA HQ sacrificial lamb get stoned to death by the meeting attendees, i.e. "NASA Headquarters briefing," followed by the "Student/Scientist Reception" from 6 to 8 (free food, I think)
Tuesday 5:30 pm: Special session on the Phoenix landing site, followed by poster session at 7 pm
Wednesday 5:30 pm: Special meeting on "Return to the moon," followed by Cocktail Hour and Buffet Dinner from 6 to 9:30
Thrsday 5:30 pm: Special session on Planetary cartography (Phil??) followed by poster session at 7 pm

So it'll be busy but we've got to have some fun. I'd just like to see a show of hands of who else may be there, then we can talk here after we start arriving in Houston and we figure out when and where the various parties are, and where we should raise the UMSF flag. Well, I don't have a flag, but at least I have a T-shirt.

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post Mar 16 2006, 05:45 AM
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At the Europa Focus Group meeting, Torrance Johnson told me a tale which may explain why Pres. Carter never backed a US Halley's Comet mission. After considerable effort, Univ. of NM comet specialist Jack Brandt finally got an audience with Carter's national security advisor Zbigniew Brzezinski and gave him the full-court press, ending by showing him a spectacular photo of Halley. Brzezinski looked at it and grunted, "Hmmph. Looks like a [vulgar term for significant portion of the male anatomy]." That was his only comment during the presentation, and probably his only comment to Carter on the subject later -- and Brzezinski was hardly reflexively anti-science. (Eight years earlier he had written a book called "Between Two Eras: America in the Technetronic Age".)

Space scientists are advised to keep this story in mind whenever they're tempted to believe that their subject absolutely MUST be of interest to the general public.
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post Mar 16 2006, 12:38 PM
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QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Mar 16 2006, 12:45 AM) *
At the Europa Focus Group meeting, Torrance Johnson told me a tale which may explain why Pres. Carter never backed a US Halley's Comet mission. After considerable effort, Univ. of NM comet specialist Jack Brandt finally got an audience with Carter's national security advisor Zbigniew Brzezinski and gave him the full-court press, ending by showing him a spectacular photo of Halley. Brzezinski looked at it and grunted, "Hmmph. Looks like a [vulgar term for significant portion of the male anatomy]." That was his only comment during the presentation, and probably his only comment to Carter on the subject later -- and Brzezinski was hardly reflexively anti-science. (Eight years earlier he had written a book called "Between Two Eras: America in the Technetronic Age".)

Space scientists are advised to keep this story in mind whenever they're tempted to believe that their subject absolutely MUST be of interest to the general public.


Wait a minute - what photo of Halley did he show? The Giotto mission wasn't until
1986, when Reagan was in office.

And don't you love the arrogance of power - the guy couldn't even make some
courteous comments about the presentation, even if he wasn't into the subject.

And for the scientist - the public doesn't always want or need every little detail
on a subject. I've seen that in way too many lectures for the public by scientists
who are only used to talking to their fellow scientists.

Jimmy Carter is proof that just because you are an intelligent person (at least
more intelligent than a lot of other presidents) does not automatically equal
support of the space sciences. Even Carl Sagan could not convince Carter
to give funds for planetary missions. And to think his message is the one on
the Voyager Interstellar Record. Just like Nixon's signature is on all those
Apollo LM plaques, I suppose.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voyager_Golden_Record#Contents


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post Mar 16 2006, 03:25 PM
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QUOTE (ljk4-1 @ Mar 16 2006, 12:38 PM) *
Wait a minute - what photo of Halley did he show?


It would have been a ground based image (going on his response)

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- elakdawalla   LPSC 2006, March 13-17   Mar 5 2006, 04:53 PM
- - Phil Stooke   Most unfortunately I will not be there this year. ...   Mar 5 2006, 05:24 PM
- - volcanopele   I'll be there. There was a great party last y...   Mar 5 2006, 08:04 PM
- - edstrick   Unfortunately, I've not made an LPSC since abo...   Mar 6 2006, 08:12 AM
|- - elakdawalla   QUOTE (edstrick @ Mar 6 2006, 12:12 AM) U...   Mar 6 2006, 03:45 PM
- - CosmicRocker   I will be there for at least some of the festiviti...   Mar 7 2006, 05:49 AM
- - volcanopele   I would like to organize something with all the UM...   Mar 9 2006, 12:01 AM
|- - AlexBlackwell   QUOTE (volcanopele @ Mar 9 2006, 12:01 AM...   Mar 9 2006, 12:07 AM
|- - elakdawalla   QUOTE (volcanopele @ Mar 8 2006, 04:01 PM...   Mar 9 2006, 01:25 AM
|- - AlexBlackwell   QUOTE (elakdawalla @ Mar 9 2006, 01:25 AM...   Mar 9 2006, 05:55 PM
|- - volcanopele   QUOTE (AlexBlackwell @ Mar 9 2006, 10:55 ...   Mar 13 2006, 09:50 PM
|- - AlexBlackwell   QUOTE (volcanopele @ Mar 13 2006, 09:50 P...   Mar 13 2006, 09:53 PM
|- - volcanopele   QUOTE (AlexBlackwell @ Mar 13 2006, 02:53...   Mar 14 2006, 03:51 AM
- - Phil Stooke   "The chili cook-off was replaced a couple of ...   Mar 9 2006, 12:17 AM
- - CosmicRocker   I will try to make it on Tuesday, but I am limited...   Mar 9 2006, 04:39 AM
- - djellison   I might mention this during the next Pancam update...   Mar 9 2006, 10:34 AM
- - Phil Stooke   How will people be able to distinguish volcanopele...   Mar 14 2006, 04:08 AM
|- - AlexBlackwell   QUOTE (Phil Stooke @ Mar 14 2006, 04:08 A...   Mar 14 2006, 07:58 PM
- - elakdawalla   So here's the photo from lunch. Left to right...   Mar 14 2006, 07:53 PM
- - AlexBlackwell   BTW, Mark Peplow of Nature is also blogging the co...   Mar 14 2006, 08:14 PM
|- - Tom Tamlyn   QUOTE (AlexBlackwell @ Mar 14 2006, 03:14...   Mar 14 2006, 08:54 PM
|- - AlexBlackwell   QUOTE (Tom Tamlyn @ Mar 14 2006, 08:54 PM...   Mar 14 2006, 09:00 PM
|- - ugordan   Good to finally see some new posts on Oliver's...   Mar 14 2006, 09:10 PM
- - AlexBlackwell   Emily keeps pounding out new blog entries from LPS...   Mar 14 2006, 08:49 PM
|- - The Messenger   QUOTE (AlexBlackwell @ Mar 14 2006, 01:49...   Mar 14 2006, 09:08 PM
|- - elakdawalla   QUOTE (The Messenger @ Mar 14 2006, 01:08...   Mar 14 2006, 09:20 PM
|- - AlexBlackwell   QUOTE (elakdawalla @ Mar 14 2006, 09:20 P...   Mar 14 2006, 09:30 PM
||- - AlexBlackwell   QUOTE (AlexBlackwell @ Mar 14 2006, 09:30...   Mar 14 2006, 10:03 PM
|- - volcanopele   mmm, that was good pizza. I will try to post on t...   Mar 14 2006, 09:37 PM
|- - djellison   QUOTE (elakdawalla @ Mar 14 2006, 09:20 P...   Mar 14 2006, 11:13 PM
- - BruceMoomaw   All those scientists who came within a hair of lyn...   Mar 15 2006, 04:38 AM
|- - Stephen   QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Mar 15 2006, 04:38 A...   Mar 16 2006, 09:12 AM
|- - RGClark   QUOTE (Stephen @ Mar 16 2006, 09:12 AM) I...   Mar 16 2006, 11:57 AM
||- - Bob Shaw   QUOTE (RGClark @ Mar 16 2006, 11:57 AM) T...   Mar 16 2006, 04:38 PM
||- - Bob Shaw   In the absence of a dedicated LPSC thread, there...   Mar 16 2006, 11:08 PM
||- - nprev   QUOTE (Bob Shaw @ Mar 16 2006, 03:08 PM) ...   Mar 18 2006, 01:01 AM
||- - AlexBlackwell   QUOTE (nprev @ Mar 18 2006, 01:01 AM) Wow...   Mar 18 2006, 01:17 AM
||- - tty   QUOTE (AlexBlackwell @ Mar 18 2006, 02:17...   Mar 18 2006, 05:23 PM
|- - dvandorn   QUOTE (Stephen @ Mar 16 2006, 03:12 AM) L...   Mar 16 2006, 02:54 PM
|- - The Messenger   QUOTE (Stephen @ Mar 16 2006, 02:12 AM) ....   Mar 16 2006, 03:08 PM
- - edstrick   Not that it helped much under the previous adminis...   Mar 15 2006, 10:25 AM
- - volcanopele   Not sure which session Emily was in this morning, ...   Mar 15 2006, 06:49 PM
- - AlexBlackwell   Phil Plait has a new update on "NASA Night....   Mar 15 2006, 08:41 PM
- - BruceMoomaw   At the Europa Focus Group meeting, Torrance Johnso...   Mar 16 2006, 05:45 AM
|- - ljk4-1   QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Mar 16 2006, 12:45 A...   Mar 16 2006, 12:38 PM
|- - djellison   QUOTE (ljk4-1 @ Mar 16 2006, 12:38 P...   Mar 16 2006, 03:25 PM
|- - Jyril   QUOTE (djellison @ Mar 16 2006, 05:25 PM)...   Mar 17 2006, 06:46 AM
- - BruceMoomaw   Michael Carr's excellent 1995 book "Water...   Mar 17 2006, 04:11 AM
- - CosmicRocker   I wasn't able to make it to that presentation ...   Mar 17 2006, 04:20 AM
|- - Bob Shaw   QUOTE (CosmicRocker @ Mar 17 2006, 04:20 ...   Mar 17 2006, 08:35 AM
- - CosmicRocker   Ok, I give up. I just read Emily's blog entry...   Mar 17 2006, 06:45 AM
- - BruceMoomaw   Yep, it was a ground-based 1910 Halley photo. QUO...   Mar 17 2006, 04:11 PM
|- - elakdawalla   QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Mar 17 2006, 08:11 A...   Mar 17 2006, 04:49 PM
- - odave   I second what CR said - you're doing a great j...   Mar 17 2006, 07:34 PM
- - BruceMoomaw   Oh, yes. I've got some comments on the LPSC a...   Mar 17 2006, 10:44 PM
- - Phil Stooke   "Wasn't that figure based on martian mete...   Mar 18 2006, 06:16 PM
|- - tty   QUOTE (Phil Stooke @ Mar 18 2006, 07:16 P...   Mar 18 2006, 09:50 PM
- - AlexBlackwell   Richard Kerr's LPSC coverage is in the March 3...   Mar 30 2006, 05:54 PM


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