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March 4 2006 Pioneer 10 contact attempt, Any news? |
Mar 6 2006, 02:07 PM
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The Planetary Society mentions on http://www.planetary.org/programs/projects...ate_200511.html that there would be a contact attempt with Pioneer 10 on March 4, 2006. Any information so far?
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Mar 7 2006, 02:34 AM
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Mar 7 2006, 09:37 PM
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Is the situation such that Pioneer's (both of them) power supply has dropped too low to send out a signal, or is it such that that Pioneer is too far away and the signal too weak for our largest antennas to pick it up anymore.
It was my understanding that it is the latter, and that if we had a larger DSN dish we would still be able to pick it up (this is ignoring alignments). Am I misunderstanding? Thanks! -------------------- |
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Mar 8 2006, 08:48 PM
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Is the situation such that Pioneer's (both of them) power supply has dropped too low to send out a signal, or is it such that that Pioneer is too far away and the signal too weak for our largest antennas to pick it up anymore. It was my understanding that it is the latter, and that if we had a larger DSN dish we would still be able to pick it up (this is ignoring alignments). Am I misunderstanding? Thanks! I sent your question to Slava, and here's the response I got: QUOTE We think that the signal actually never left the spacecraft... See, our figures for required power to operate the transmitter are Cable loss: 1.6 W Inverter loss: 5.3 W CTRF loss: 8.5 W CTRF load: 12.4 W TRF loss: 3.4 W TRF load: 3.6 W Shunt: 1.6 W TWT: 22.3 W ------- total 58.7 W Thus, we needed total of 58.7 W power to operate the phase-lock loop at the spacecraft. At the same time, the actual RTG power is about 56.7 W, leaving us with a 2 W discrepancy, which is consistent with observed discrepancies in past readings. Our logic to still conduct this experiment was: i) this was the last ever attempt, and ii) all the numbers above are with some errors, so the hope was that we would have just enough power to initiate the contact. Unfortunately, the cold of the deep space frozen the craft prohibited us to "motivate" the craft for one last "phone call home.." . --Emily -------------------- My website - My Patreon - @elakdawalla on Twitter - Please support unmannedspaceflight.com by donating here.
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Mar 9 2006, 01:16 AM
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Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 183 Joined: 22-October 05 From: Cape Canaveral, FL Member No.: 534 |
I sent your question to Slava, and here's the response I got: --Emily Thanks Emily. -------------------- |
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Robert_47 March 4 2006 Pioneer 10 contact attempt Mar 6 2006, 02:07 PM
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