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Mar 9 2006, 04:25 PM
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Nasa Watch is reporting that we shoud expect a large announcement from the Cassini team today:
My wild speculation is that it will be a subsurface ocean confirmed on enceladus. Hence more potentially habitable real eastate in the solar system. Heads up anyone? |
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Mar 9 2006, 04:26 PM
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Note that NASAWatch/Spaceref is in its "breaking news" speculation mode regarding a "big" or "huge" announcement today.
Frankly, it looks as if Cowing just picked up on the toms-toms beating about the publication of the March 10, 2006, issue of Science, which is a special issue (Cassini at Enceladus). |
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Mar 9 2006, 04:44 PM
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Note that NASAWatch/Spaceref is in its "breaking news" speculation mode regarding a "big" or "huge" announcement today. Frankly, it looks as if Cowing just picked up on the toms-toms beating about the publication of the March 10, 2006, issue of Science, which is a special issue (Cassini at Enceladus). The media at large has picked this up, it is an announcement of subsurface liquid H2O at Enceladus, which seems to be a "no news" consequence of the jets imaged months ago. It's something if a place as profoundly obscure as Enceladus could become part of the vocabulary of the New Yorker set, if not a household name. I don't, again, see this as news anymore, but it's a time to reflect that the Saturn system has definitely KOed the Galileans in terms of interest. Enceladus alone is almost a combination of Ganymede (old crust and new), Europa (subsurface ocean), and Io (volcanic plumes) in one. Then there's Titan. Wow. Enceladus is still in the running for a high-priority flagship mission, although I don't know if it has the potential to climb to the top of that list among outer satellites. |
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Mar 9 2006, 07:44 PM
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The media at large has picked this up, it is an announcement of subsurface liquid H2O at Enceladus, which seems to be a "no news" consequence of the jets imaged months ago. It's something if a place as profoundly obscure as Enceladus could become part of the vocabulary of the New Yorker set, if not a household name. I don't, again, see this as news anymore, but it's a time to reflect that the Saturn system has definitely KOed the Galileans in terms of interest. Enceladus alone is almost a combination of Ganymede (old crust and new), Europa (subsurface ocean), and Io (volcanic plumes) in one. Then there's Titan. Wow. Enceladus is still in the running for a high-priority flagship mission, although I don't know if it has the potential to climb to the top of that list among outer satellites. It's very exciting to those of us whose primary interest in planetary science is in connection with astrobiology. Apparently, it is also exciting to Cassini scientist Carolyn Porco: Cassini Finds Signs of Liquid Water on Saturn's Moon By Tariq Malik posted: 09 March 2006 12:57 pm ET "Saturn’s moon Enceladus may have pockets of liquid water lurking beneath its surface, feeding great jets that spew from the satellite and hinting at the possibility of a habitable environment, researchers said Thursday." ... “This finding has substantially broadened the range of environments in the solar system that might support living organisms, and it doesn't get any more significant than that,” said Carolyn Porco, Cassini imaging team leader at the Space Science Institute in Boulder, Colorado, in an e-mail interview. “I'd say we've just hit the ball right out of the park.” http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/0603...sini_water.html Also there is the question of explaining the source of this heating. One proposal is that it is due to radiogenic heating. If so that also raises the possibility that such heating could have operated on comets early in the solar systems history thereby creating environments conducive to life within comets. If true, it would also raise the possibility such heating continues in the very largest comets and Kuiper belt objects. Bob Clark |
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Mar 9 2006, 07:54 PM
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It's very exciting to those of us whose primary interest in planetary science is in connection with astrobiology. Apparently, it is also exciting to Cassini scientist Carolyn Porco: I agree it's exciting -- but the headline was in November. Three models all of which included reservoirs of subsurface water were put forth then. The progression from then to now still hasn't eliminated the "may". I see this is a wonderfully important news story that happened four and a half months ago. The recent update is important, but nuanced. |
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paxdan Science (March 10, 2006) Mar 9 2006, 04:25 PM

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volcanopele The Enceladus would make a good name for a car tha... Mar 9 2006, 05:46 PM
AlexBlackwell Cassini Finds Signs of Liquid Water on Saturn... Mar 9 2006, 06:24 PM
elakdawalla JPL's release is out via email, but it hasn... Mar 9 2006, 07:07 PM
David QUOTE (elakdawalla @ Mar 9 2006, 07:07 PM... Mar 10 2006, 02:22 AM
volcanopele By my watch, it is after 2pm EST. WOOHOO!... Mar 9 2006, 07:07 PM
alan QUOTE Report: NASA Will Not Announce Life Find
NA... Mar 9 2006, 07:14 PM
scalbers Looks like NASA TV will have this momentarily Mar 9 2006, 07:25 PM
volcanopele thanks for the heads up Mar 9 2006, 07:31 PM
scalbers Hi again,
As you may have seen, NASA TV had a 2:3... Mar 9 2006, 07:39 PM
paxdan I would be curious to hear discussion as to what w... Mar 9 2006, 08:07 PM
The Messenger QUOTE (paxdan @ Mar 9 2006, 01:07 PM) I w... Mar 9 2006, 09:30 PM
paulanderson Good write-up on CICLOPS (Captain's Log):
htt... Mar 9 2006, 09:04 PM
BruceMoomaw Given all the effort I've put lately into flat... Mar 9 2006, 09:56 PM
volcanopele I'm done talking to reporters today...
though... Mar 9 2006, 10:09 PM
elakdawalla I'm getting a brief note posted based on a cha... Mar 9 2006, 10:09 PM
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volcanopele For those of you in the Tucson area, look for me o... Mar 9 2006, 10:53 PM
belleraphon1 Ok...
here I am the old foggie......
Enceladu... Mar 9 2006, 11:48 PM
AlexBlackwell Cassini Images of Enceladus Suggest Geysers Erupt ... Mar 9 2006, 11:52 PM
BruceMoomaw Bob Pappalardo just helpfully sent me the Porco an... Mar 10 2006, 06:08 AM
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Anne Verbiscer I wouldn't be too quick to dismiss ammonia on ... Mar 10 2006, 08:58 PM
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volcanopele Wow, it's been a crazy couple of days. First,... Mar 10 2006, 09:04 PM
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AlexBlackwell PIA07800 looks to be another iconic Cassini image.... Mar 11 2006, 01:04 AM
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ugordan If you're gonna decimate a huge mosaic like th... Mar 11 2006, 09:38 PM
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dvandorn So.... Enceladus may well have a subsurface ocean ... Mar 11 2006, 04:00 PM
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