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dilo
post Mar 14 2006, 05:14 AM
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Just to recall...
In February 2005 a couple of mad team members correctly identified these features in the first flyby images, and one of them wrote: "what about the halo/plume in the bottom? If is real (not due to camera/lens artifacts or bright surface reflections), source probably lies in large meridional fractured regions"
(see here).
At that time, very few believed to this interpretation... rolleyes.gif


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The Messenger
post Mar 14 2006, 04:17 PM
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The credit belongs to Cassini. Dilo gets to have a nice warm fuzzy, and he can put anything he wants in his epitath. (Kinda like a grad student, huh.)

Maybe it is time to revisit the 'lens abberations' on Rhea and Thethys...
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post Mar 14 2006, 05:15 PM
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QUOTE (The Messenger @ Mar 14 2006, 04:17 PM) *
The credit belongs to Cassini. Dilo gets to have a nice warm fuzzy, and he can put anything he wants in his epita[ph]. (Kinda like a grad student, huh.)

I'll preface this by stating that I haven't read the thread in question. Having said that, I agree with the above, though there are various degrees of "credit." As for this particular discussion group's dynamics, Dilo, as you say, gets an attaboy/attagirl for noting the imagery. However, Dilo would also probably have to prove that someone else in some other discussion forum (e.g., USENET, a cybercafe in Romania, etc.) didn't note it even earlier.

As for true scientific credit, Dilo is out of luck in this instance. If he/she had posted as much detail here as the Cassini instrument teams did in their papers in Science, then a case might be made. Without having read the thread in question, I'm assuming that didn't happen.
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post Mar 14 2006, 07:49 PM
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Hold on guys! I don't want ABSOLUTELY to claim that this was discovered be me (and edstrick too).

When I posted this thread, my implicit intention was to underline my joy to see that, sometimes, hypothesis we formulate here can be correct and, anyway, discussion generated by these ideas can be very stimulating by itself.
Thrust or not, I'm very far from reproaching Volcanopele, who made a fantastic work here and in his blog.
I understand all the precaution needs before formal, public announcement.
When Cassini Team planned to take these pictures more than one year ago, they probably aimed to see plumes... So, discovery belongs to this people!
And I want to express my deep gratitude to NASA for immediately publishing these images without filters, letting use to enjoy them and formulate our speculations, without the constraints of a scientific publication.
And deep gratitude to Doug for the opportunity to express them.

Hope now is clear and sorry for possible misinterpretations...! wink.gif


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post Mar 14 2006, 08:57 PM
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QUOTE (dilo @ Mar 14 2006, 07:49 PM) *
Hold on guys! I don't want ABSOLUTELY to claim that this was discovered be me (and edstrick too).

dilo, you and edstrick (I assume without knowing the history of the discovery) do deserve props from us here in UMSF for your sharp eyes.

BTW, your humble, self-effacing, and polite attitude probably eliminates you from one career field: space journalist/pundit. biggrin.gif
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post Mar 14 2006, 11:46 PM
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QUOTE (AlexBlackwell @ Mar 14 2006, 08:57 PM) *
BTW, your humble, self-effacing, and polite attitude probably eliminates you from one career field: space journalist/pundit. biggrin.gif


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- dilo   1000 posts ago...   Mar 14 2006, 05:14 AM
- - Decepticon   I remember that.   Mar 14 2006, 09:18 AM
- - dvandorn   Yeah -- I also remember Jason assuring us all that...   Mar 14 2006, 09:45 AM
|- - Big_Gazza   QUOTE (dvandorn @ Mar 14 2006, 08:45 PM) ...   Mar 14 2006, 11:37 AM
- - edstrick   "Ain't life terrible?"   Mar 14 2006, 10:41 AM
- - BruceMoomaw   Yes, Dilo was absolutely bang on tgarget -- and re...   Mar 14 2006, 11:57 AM
- - The Messenger   The credit belongs to Cassini. Dilo gets to have a...   Mar 14 2006, 04:17 PM
|- - AlexBlackwell   QUOTE (The Messenger @ Mar 14 2006, 04:17...   Mar 14 2006, 05:15 PM
|- - dilo   Hold on guys! I don't want ABSOLUTELY to c...   Mar 14 2006, 07:49 PM
|- - AlexBlackwell   QUOTE (dilo @ Mar 14 2006, 07:49 PM) Hold...   Mar 14 2006, 08:57 PM
|- - BruceMoomaw   QUOTE (AlexBlackwell @ Mar 14 2006, 08:57...   Mar 14 2006, 11:46 PM
|- - dilo   QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Mar 15 2006, 12:46 A...   Mar 15 2006, 12:07 AM
- - volcanopele   I'm sorry some of you feel misled regarding th...   Mar 14 2006, 04:43 PM
|- - JRehling   QUOTE (volcanopele @ Mar 14 2006, 08:43 A...   Mar 14 2006, 05:06 PM
- - edstrick   Anyway, it's awfully tiring to go around with ...   Mar 15 2006, 10:12 AM


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