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2 brief footnotes on Emily's LPSC Titan notes |
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Mar 16 2006, 08:02 AM
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http://www.planetary.org/blog/article/00000495/ :
(1) "Ralph Lorenz gave a talk about the dunes on Titan. Since much of the material from his talk is in a paper that is apparently in press in Science, it was a little better developed than I'd heard before. For example, in the past I have heard Ralph cite examples of dune-forms developed in snow in Antarctica where the dunes have almost no topographic expression but are visible to imaging techniques that are sensitive to ice grain size. Now, however, Ralph was reporting measurements of the heights of the Titan dunes -- they average 150 meters high, with a 2-kilometer spacing from crest to crest. He's now citing examples from the Namib desert. He showed some really beautiful Space Shuttle photography of those features." Lorenz also says -- in both his LPSC abstract ( http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/lpsc2006/pdf/1249.pdf ) and his similar EGU abstract ( http://www.cosis.net/abstracts/EGU06/09468/EGU06-J-09468.pdf ) -- that longitudinal dunes only occur in places where the wind speed fluctuates a lot, which says very interesting things about Titan's weather. (2) "Guiseppe Mitri presented an interesting modeling study where he asked the question: Are the observations of atmospheric methane relative humidity and thunderstorms/cloud frequency consistent with a desert planet containing tiny fractional lake coverage? According to his calculations, he said, a 50% relative humidity of methane in Titan's atmosphere could result from lakes covering only a small fraction, 0.2 to 4 percent, of the surface. (This was assuming 'tropospheric overturning scales of 10 to 100 years' but I don't know what that means.) I also noted that his calculations implied that if such lakes exist, they evaporate at a rate of 3 to 10 meters of elevation per year." Mitri added ( http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/lpsc2006/pdf/1962.pdf ) that "The rapid shoreline changes predicted here suggest that repeat Cassini observations of putative lake-like features should be performed at intervals of a year or more: any shoreline changes would provide evidence that candidate lakelike features are actually lakes." The prime target, presumably, should be Ontario Lacus. (I imagine that "tropospheric overturning scales" refer to the average time between a methane molecule evaporating from surface liquid into the air, and its raining back again to the surface as liquid. The longer that time is, the more you can combine high atmospheric humidity with a small amount of liquid actually on the surface. Titan looks more and more like an eerie cryogenic parody of the American Southwest, where its "sands" and its rare but violent rainstorms are concerned -- but its reasons for that storm pattern are somewhat different.) |
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BruceMoomaw 2 brief footnotes on Emily's LPSC Titan notes Mar 16 2006, 08:02 AM
The Messenger QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Mar 16 2006, 01:02 A... Mar 16 2006, 02:46 PM
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BruceMoomaw Actually, in neither abstract did Lorenz say just ... Mar 16 2006, 11:01 PM
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