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Water May Not Have Formed Mars' Recent Gullies
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post Mar 16 2006, 07:54 PM
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Water May Not Have Formed Mars' Recent Gullies
By Lori Stiles
University of Arizona News Services
March 16, 2006
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post Mar 19 2006, 04:21 AM
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Against that, however, we have the problem pointed out (not for the first time) in http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/lpsc2006/pdf/1610.pdf : "The discovery that 10-16% of gullies occur on isolated knobs or hills is difficult to reconcile with a regional groundwater model of gully formation as it is unlikely that a sufficiently large aquifer to produce gullies (with lengths sometimes > 5km) could form within these isolated topographies. Instead, the obvious dependence of gully distribution and orientation with latitude suggest that insolation and climate play a controlling role in gully formation and that an atmospheric source for the water [e.g. 4] is more likely."

Indeed, one should keep in mind Allen Treiman's belief that NO unified theory explains all the gullies very well -- there are inconsistencies in every single theory proposed so far: http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/lpsc2006/pdf/1304.pdf . See also his abstract from last year's LPSC attacking aquifer formation theories for them (in which he managed to utilize Lemony Snicket for the title): http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/lpsc2005/pdf/1713.pdf
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* Researchers Rain On Mars' Water Gullies Parade

http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/060321_mars_water.html

Martian gullies that some scientists believe were recently carved by liquid
water might instead be the result of landslides triggered by wind and meteor
impacts, scientists say.


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- AlexBlackwell   Water May Not Have Formed Mars' Recent Gullies   Mar 16 2006, 07:54 PM
- - ljk4-1   "Are Martian Gullies Generated by Granular Fl...   Mar 16 2006, 08:23 PM
|- - tty   QUOTE (ljk4-1 @ Mar 16 2006, 09:23 P...   Mar 16 2006, 08:40 PM
||- - ljk4-1   QUOTE (tty @ Mar 16 2006, 03:40 PM) Was t...   Mar 16 2006, 08:44 PM
|- - AlexBlackwell   QUOTE (ljk4-1 @ Mar 16 2006, 08:23 P...   Mar 16 2006, 08:46 PM
|- - Bob Shaw   There are all sorts of funny physical mechanisms w...   Mar 16 2006, 09:02 PM
||- - ljk4-1   The Cornell professor who introduced Dr. Shinbrot ...   Mar 16 2006, 09:39 PM
|- - JRehling   QUOTE (AlexBlackwell @ Mar 16 2006, 12:46...   Mar 16 2006, 09:33 PM
|- - AlexBlackwell   QUOTE (JRehling @ Mar 16 2006, 09:33 PM) ...   Mar 16 2006, 09:38 PM
- - JRehling   I'll insert here a post I made four years ago ...   Mar 16 2006, 08:37 PM
- - paulanderson   While the jury may still be out it seems on recent...   Mar 17 2006, 12:44 AM
|- - AlexBlackwell   QUOTE (paulanderson @ Mar 17 2006, 12:44 ...   Mar 17 2006, 12:53 AM
|- - paulanderson   QUOTE (AlexBlackwell @ Mar 16 2006, 04:53...   Mar 17 2006, 03:52 AM
|- - AlexBlackwell   QUOTE (paulanderson @ Mar 17 2006, 03:52 ...   Mar 17 2006, 05:24 PM
- - BruceMoomaw   Scanning through the LPSC Mars abstracts, the thin...   Mar 17 2006, 03:13 AM
|- - RGClark   QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Mar 17 2006, 03:13 A...   Mar 19 2006, 12:05 AM
- - Richard Trigaux   It is sure that certain traces are dust flows, esp...   Mar 17 2006, 07:23 AM
|- - JRehling   QUOTE (Richard Trigaux @ Mar 16 2006, 11...   Mar 17 2006, 02:28 PM
|- - jmknapp   There was a lot of press back with Clementine and/...   Mar 17 2006, 03:52 PM
- - edstrick   Got me a new theory. Gnomes with dust-mops.   Mar 17 2006, 09:42 AM
- - BruceMoomaw   Against that, however, we have the problem pointed...   Mar 19 2006, 04:21 AM
|- - ljk4-1   Science/Astronomy: * Researchers Rain On Mars...   Mar 21 2006, 07:41 PM
|- - AlexBlackwell   QUOTE (ljk4-1 @ Mar 21 2006, 07:41 P...   Mar 21 2006, 08:06 PM
- - BruceMoomaw   Moomaw strikes again! I was wondering whether...   Mar 23 2006, 09:57 PM
|- - AlexBlackwell   QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Mar 23 2006, 09:57 P...   Mar 23 2006, 10:01 PM
- - BruceMoomaw   I was just about to send it to you guys when I stu...   Mar 23 2006, 10:21 PM
|- - AlexBlackwell   QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Mar 23 2006, 10:21 P...   Mar 23 2006, 10:27 PM
- - BruceMoomaw   I draw the line at that.   Mar 23 2006, 10:30 PM


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