Landing on Mercury on equator at perihelion |
Landing on Mercury on equator at perihelion |
Mar 21 2006, 12:18 AM
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How will it be to make a manned landing at Mercury at its closest to the sun (perihelion) on its equator when the sun is in the zenith ,what are the dangers of a landing then? Do we need to be protected against the sunheat and radiation then? How strong is the heat and radiation of the sun then ,and is it dangerous when the solaractivity is high then? What kind of spacesuits do we need then? Better protected suits than we have used on the apollo moonlandings i think. Can you explain how a landing on Mercury will be when it is at perihelion and land on its equator with the sun directly overhead? I hope it will ever happen. Lets start discuss about it.
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Mar 21 2006, 11:18 AM
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An interesting job too for a probe would be sensing Mercury's gravitation field. For this it requires a trajectory coming from afar and going as close as possible from the ground. For this, the probe would perform a very close passage, perhaps some kilometres, which would place it on a very elliptic orbit.
From this orbit, it could make a global map of Mercury. After, the orbit would be circularized at lowered, so that the probe could make high resolution views. Ideally, on an airless world, the orbit could be lowered at will, theoretically some kilometres, lower than an airliner. But from a previous discution on a lunar orbiter, it appeared that, due to the presence of mascons on the Moon, such orbit is not stable and it ends up crashing on the ground. A similar problem may exist on Mercury, limiting the lowest altitude. An interesting prediction, from the crust compression model, is that it could exist many underground tectonic cavities. If there is yet any form of volcanism or outgassing, it would take place here, and the cavities may have a complete atmosphere (with a pressure gradient and all). Eventually this could lead to some outgassing at very low pressure, if there are exit points. |
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Mar 21 2006, 03:20 PM
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Come on, guys - just land at night!
How about landing on the terminator (where the temperature is balanced, right?) and having the mission follow just ahead of sunrise. The planet takes 59 days to rotate, so it should be slow enough for the explorers. I saw them do this on the Chronicles of Riddick, so it must be true. -------------------- "After having some business dealings with men, I am occasionally chagrined,
and feel as if I had done some wrong, and it is hard to forget the ugly circumstance. I see that such intercourse long continued would make one thoroughly prosaic, hard, and coarse. But the longest intercourse with Nature, though in her rudest moods, does not thus harden and make coarse. A hard, sensible man whom we liken to a rock is indeed much harder than a rock. From hard, coarse, insensible men with whom I have no sympathy, I go to commune with the rocks, whose hearts are comparatively soft." - Henry David Thoreau, November 15, 1853 |
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Rem31 Landing on Mercury on equator at perihelion Mar 21 2006, 12:18 AM
antoniseb QUOTE (Rem31 @ Mar 20 2006, 07:18 PM) How... Mar 21 2006, 12:25 AM
RNeuhaus QUOTE (Rem31 @ Mar 20 2006, 07:18 PM) How... Mar 21 2006, 02:25 AM
Rem31 But how will a (hypothetical) manned landing on Me... Mar 21 2006, 03:42 AM
RNeuhaus QUOTE (Rem31 @ Mar 20 2006, 10:42 PM) But... Mar 22 2006, 01:35 AM
BruceMoomaw A manned landing on Mercury at perihelion -- or an... Mar 21 2006, 04:25 AM
JRehling QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Mar 20 2006, 08:25 P... Mar 21 2006, 10:02 PM
BruceMoomaw QUOTE (JRehling @ Mar 21 2006, 10:02 PM) ... Mar 21 2006, 11:57 PM
JRehling QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Mar 21 2006, 03:57 P... Mar 22 2006, 05:46 PM
Richard Trigaux QUOTE (Rem31 @ Mar 21 2006, 01:18 AM) How... Mar 21 2006, 06:09 AM
edstrick Exploring Mercury is difficult. While it's re... Mar 21 2006, 08:49 AM
Richard Trigaux At least, and orbiter with high resolution mapping... Mar 21 2006, 09:08 AM
edstrick Robert Strom (I think) and subsequent researchers ... Mar 21 2006, 10:26 AM
Richard Trigaux hey, that is interesting, and fairly different of ... Mar 21 2006, 11:06 AM
JRehling To summarize what other posters have written: Merc... Mar 21 2006, 05:37 PM
BruceMoomaw Even Arthur C. Clarke, the Keeper of the Holy of H... Mar 21 2006, 09:42 PM
ljk4-1 QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Mar 21 2006, 04:42 P... Mar 21 2006, 10:22 PM
Rem31 Are there space artist impressions to find on the ... Mar 21 2006, 11:42 PM
RNeuhaus The Mercury atmospheric composition:
CODEHelium 4... Mar 22 2006, 01:59 AM
BruceMoomaw It has stupendously less than that -- its atmosphe... Mar 22 2006, 03:40 AM
edstrick Niven may or may not have been aware of the really... Mar 22 2006, 07:04 AM
BruceMoomaw He surely wasn't aware of that, or he wouldn... Mar 22 2006, 07:37 AM
edstrick I'm assuming he wasn't. It was pretty obs... Mar 22 2006, 08:15 AM
BruceMoomaw QUOTE (edstrick @ Mar 22 2006, 08:15 AM) ... Mar 22 2006, 08:25 PM
Richard Trigaux There was in another thread a discution on the pos... Mar 22 2006, 08:37 AM
edstrick A long lived Mercury lander would have decidedly d... Mar 22 2006, 11:12 AM
Richard Trigaux An ion drive would do well on a trajectory to Merc... Mar 22 2006, 07:26 PM
ljk4-1 QUOTE (Richard Trigaux @ Mar 22 2006, 02... Mar 22 2006, 08:09 PM
antoniseb QUOTE (ljk4-1 @ Mar 22 2006, 03:09 P... Mar 22 2006, 08:45 PM

Richard Trigaux QUOTE (antoniseb @ Mar 22 2006, 09:45 PM)... Mar 22 2006, 09:40 PM
JRehling QUOTE (ljk4-1 @ Mar 22 2006, 12:09 P... Mar 22 2006, 09:27 PM
ljk4-1 QUOTE (JRehling @ Mar 22 2006, 04:27 PM) ... Mar 22 2006, 09:41 PM
edstrick Mariner 10 did have a tiny infrared radiometer. I... Mar 23 2006, 09:33 AM
Rem31 What kind of experience will it (possibly) be when... Apr 28 2006, 09:47 PM
BruceMoomaw All I can say is you like hot weather a lot more t... Apr 28 2006, 09:53 PM
Rem31 What are the kind of dangers of a (manned) landing... May 10 2006, 12:06 AM
BruceMoomaw God, yes. We've mentioned all this before. A... May 10 2006, 08:43 AM
Bob Shaw QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ May 10 2006, 09:43 A... May 10 2006, 11:00 AM
JRehling QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ May 10 2006, 01:43 A... May 10 2006, 01:35 PM
JRehling QUOTE (JRehling @ May 10 2006, 06:35 AM) ... May 10 2006, 05:08 PM
Rem31 And on a manned landing on Mercury at (perihelion)... May 10 2006, 11:28 AM
helvick QUOTE (Rem31 @ May 10 2006, 12:28 PM) And... May 10 2006, 12:19 PM
jsheff As I recall, Mariner 10's discovery of a magne... May 10 2006, 03:52 PM
Bob Shaw John:
The trouble with Mercury is, that although ... May 10 2006, 05:58 PM
RNeuhaus A comparative view of Sun between Mercury and Eart... May 10 2006, 07:06 PM
jsheff I know how horrendous the delta-vee requirements a... May 10 2006, 07:27 PM
JRehling QUOTE (jsheff @ May 10 2006, 12:27 PM) Th... May 10 2006, 08:27 PM
Bob Shaw QUOTE (JRehling @ May 10 2006, 09:27 PM) ... May 10 2006, 08:39 PM

ilbasso QUOTE (Bob Shaw @ May 10 2006, 04:39 PM) ... May 18 2006, 05:47 PM
helvick Absolutely agree with you on this but people are s... May 10 2006, 08:50 PM
ljk4-1 QUOTE (helvick @ May 10 2006, 04:50 PM) A... May 18 2006, 05:52 PM
BruceMoomaw Well, all the way back in the 1950s -- when he was... May 10 2006, 09:11 PM
Rem31 Do you need also Solarheat and radiation protectio... Jun 17 2006, 09:00 PM
dvandorn I don't have detailed numbers for you, but my ... Jun 18 2006, 11:52 PM
RNeuhaus In spite of the fact Mercury has extermes temperat... Jun 19 2006, 12:46 AM
ermar QUOTE every 44 days (one orbital period is close t... Jun 20 2006, 08:09 PM
RNeuhaus Good tought ermar!
I haven't percated th... Jun 21 2006, 03:04 AM
Rem31 Here is one of the most beautifull photographs of ... Jun 22 2006, 09:11 PM
helvick QUOTE (Rem31 @ Jun 22 2006, 10:11 PM) I h... Jun 22 2006, 11:40 PM
JRehling QUOTE (helvick @ Jun 22 2006, 04:40 PM) N... Jun 23 2006, 04:10 PM
Rem31 QUOTE (JRehling @ Jun 23 2006, 04:10 PM) ... Jun 24 2006, 11:09 PM
edstrick Note that we *DO* know there's polar volatile ... Jun 23 2006, 10:50 AM
edstrick I note that that page has ONE (the first) of the M... Jun 24 2006, 10:24 AM
efron_01 about Mercury having been a moon of Venus..
I have... Nov 12 2006, 03:44 PM
nprev As I recall, the Arecibo radar images of Mercury... Nov 13 2006, 02:11 AM
Alan S This might be a topic for a new thread, but since ... Jan 8 2007, 06:21 AM
edstrick The helium 3 is a fraction (in very approximate pr... Jan 8 2007, 12:43 PM
Bob Shaw QUOTE (edstrick @ Jan 8 2007, 12:43 PM) T... Jan 8 2007, 10:32 PM
ljk4-1 Dr. Robert Bussard of the Bussard ramjet interstel... Jan 8 2007, 02:52 PM
JRehling QUOTE (ljk4-1 @ Jan 8 2007, 06:52 AM... Jan 8 2007, 07:16 PM
nprev I think that JR's analysis was right on, if ni... Jan 9 2007, 02:25 AM
edstrick "...what minerals might the planet have ...... Jan 9 2007, 08:39 AM![]() ![]() |
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