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New MSL and MER comparison Image from JPL, Setting Expectations for Future Generations |
Mar 21 2006, 11:39 PM
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A revealing new comparison image of MSL and MER
The JPL caption and article are below ![]() This artist's concept shows that the next generation rover, Mars Science Laboratory, is much larger than Spirit and Opportunity. Credit: NASA/JPL-Caltech Setting Expectations for Future Generations That's important, because the rovers depend on sun intake for their health. Like many boomers, they will be seeking the sunniest places to face winter, which is once again approaching on Mars. Having already lasted over a martian year - almost nine times longer than planned! - no one is sure just how much longer they will last. "Once the rovers stop working, I'll miss seeing new pictures every day, but since I don't consider myself ancient, I hope to work on the Mars Science Laboratory mission after the rovers die," smiles Matijevic. And, as new generations of rovers continue driving faster and farther on Mars, future generations of astronauts--perhaps the grandchildren of today's Baby Boomers--will begin to head farther away from Earth. On the horizon is a whole new era for a human-robotic partnership, with the young-at-heart rovers raising the bar for all who follow. |
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Mar 25 2006, 10:04 PM
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That uptilted box on the rear of the MSL model is to cover up the RTG -- it didn't exist on the earlier drawings. Question: will it really be there, or is this a fig leaf to cover up from the general public the fact that MSL will carry an RTG, to try and diminish anti-nuclear protests? (Kind of like those clothes Att. Gen. Ashcroft insisted on putting on the nude statues in the Justice Department building.)
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Mar 25 2006, 10:22 PM
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That uptilted box on the rear of the MSL model is to cover up the RTG... Umm, no, that's the heat exchanger for the fluid loop that carries RTG waste heat into the rover. See http://marstech.jpl.nasa.gov/publications/...-2005-01-28.pdf -------------------- Disclaimer: This post is based on public information only. Any opinions are my own.
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Mar 26 2006, 03:58 AM
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Umm, no, that's the heat exchanger for the fluid loop that carries RTG waste heat into the rover. See http://marstech.jpl.nasa.gov/publications/...-2005-01-28.pdf Hmm. Well, the drawing on page 2 of that paper certainly doesn't look much like the shape of that thing in the MSL model -- you can see the RTG very easily in the latter, but NOT in the former. In particular, in the drawing there's no evidence of the flat rear cover plate which exists in the model and shields the RTG from view. (In fact, the silhouette of the combined RTG and radiator-fin assembly on one diagram of MSL as seen from the front led one earlier contributor to this site to enquire whether Batman was hitching a ride.) Is it still possible that JPL did a little fiddling with that model for the press conference to cover up the RTG, or is it just the result of a different viewing angle or a system redesign? |
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Mar 26 2006, 04:45 AM
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Hmm. Well, the drawing on page 2 of that paper certainly doesn't look much like the shape of that thing in the MSL model -- you can see the RTG very easily in the latter, but NOT in the former. In particular, in the drawing there's no evidence of the flat rear cover plate which exists in the model and shields the RTG from view. (In fact, the silhouette of the combined RTG and radiator-fin assembly on one diagram of MSL as seen from the front led one earlier contributor to this site to enquire whether Batman was hitching a ride.) Is it still possible that JPL did a little fiddling with that model for the press conference to cover up the RTG, or is it just the result of a different viewing angle or a system redesign? Well notice too that it's not a full rendering of the rover. A layer of architecture seems almost peeled away in that design diagram. The shroud may be a protective, insulative enclosure for the RTG more than an essential part of the thermal control system. |
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mars loon New MSL and MER comparison Image from JPL Mar 21 2006, 11:39 PM
PhilCo126 I've read somewhere online that MSL might be n... Mar 22 2006, 01:15 PM
chris If what kills the MERs is broken wires caused by m... Mar 22 2006, 01:40 PM
dvandorn QUOTE (chris @ Mar 22 2006, 07:40 AM) If ... Mar 24 2006, 03:46 AM
chris Um yes. Well put
Chris Mar 24 2006, 09:28 AM
djellison When you've got yay-kW of heat sitting on the ... Mar 22 2006, 02:14 PM
Chmee QUOTE (djellison @ Mar 22 2006, 09:14 AM)... Mar 22 2006, 02:24 PM

odave QUOTE (Chmee @ Mar 22 2006, 09:24 AM) Str... Mar 22 2006, 02:38 PM
mcaplinger QUOTE (djellison @ Mar 22 2006, 06:14 AM)... Mar 22 2006, 02:24 PM
jabe mmm..
If my recollection of a press conference a w... Mar 22 2006, 04:56 PM
chris Hmm, this makes me wonder - other than the MERs, i... Mar 22 2006, 05:09 PM
paxdan QUOTE (chris @ Mar 22 2006, 05:09 PM) Hmm... Mar 22 2006, 06:29 PM
ElkGroveDan QUOTE (chris @ Mar 22 2006, 05:09 PM) Hmm... Mar 23 2006, 12:18 AM
nprev QUOTE (ElkGroveDan @ Mar 22 2006, 04:18 P... Mar 25 2006, 07:14 AM
djellison Hostile - maybe some of the deep oceanic drilling ... Mar 22 2006, 05:13 PM
odave It seems to me, given that MSL's primary surfa... Mar 22 2006, 06:16 PM
chris QUOTE (odave @ Mar 22 2006, 06:16 PM) It ... Mar 22 2006, 06:54 PM
jaywee And did they put the HGA back? I remember seeing a... Mar 22 2006, 06:37 PM
BruceMoomaw QUOTE (jaywee @ Mar 22 2006, 06:37 PM) An... Mar 22 2006, 08:34 PM
jabe ok..I took a screen capture of the jan 26th briefi... Mar 22 2006, 11:07 PM
Bob Shaw QUOTE (jabe @ Mar 22 2006, 11:07 PM) ok..... Mar 23 2006, 11:17 AM
hendric I hereby nickname MSL "The Skunk". Mar 23 2006, 04:58 PM
tty Every aircraft operating in the tropics has to sta... Mar 25 2006, 05:13 PM
Bob Shaw QUOTE (mcaplinger @ Mar 25 2006, 10:22 PM... Mar 25 2006, 10:31 PM
mcaplinger QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Mar 25 2006, 07:58 P... Mar 26 2006, 04:41 AM
mchan QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Mar 25 2006, 07:58 P... Mar 26 2006, 04:48 AM![]() ![]() |
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