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Mar 30 2006, 06:06 PM
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(1) The Jan. 2005 "Geochemical News" ( http://geochemsoc.org/archives/gn/gn122.pdf , pg. 9-16) contains an interview with David Des Marais full of intriguing statements of his views on both Mars exploration in particular, and the difficulties of interpreting possible Precambrian fossil evidence in general.
(2) MEPAG's Mars Human Precursor Science Steering group -- which issued its report in mid-2005 -- had a subgroup devoted to determining the necessary measurements to allow safe landings and surface exploration by both unmanned and manned craft, and its report is at http://sirius.bu.edu/withers/pppp/original...resentation.ppt . It's particularly interesting for two reasons. First it summarizes the kinds of measurements that must be made by the atmosphere-oriented 2013 Mars Science and Telecom Orbiter for such purposes -- the biggest problem is wind measurements at various altitudes, which may require development of a Doppler lidar. Second, page 8 indicates that the MER landings were even a nearer thing than we thought: "Spirit designed with range of atmospheric states for during EDL • A week before entry TES observation of dust storm changed anticipated atmosphere • Based on TES, a new density vs altitude profile was created • However, the reconstructed atmosphere, done post-flight, indicated a significantly different density (reduced by 15% between 20-30 km) from TES calculation, and was very close to the limit of system performance • Also, steadily increasing oscillations of both Spirit and Opportunity before parachute deployment nearly exceeded safe range (could get tangled chute). • Oscillations due to either unexpected atmospheric turbulence (some unknown aerodynamic instability) or mechanical instability of vehicle in fluid. • Lesson: The atmospheric state is not well quantified, with both models and NRT calculations yielding weather predictions with large intrinsic errors • Lack of atmosphere information may affect vehicle design, possibly creating unstable descent system • There are still unexpected turbulent layers, and unexpected affects from large atmospheric dust storms" _____________________________ Obviously, we cannot keep running these risks as our landers get bigger and more expensive -- a better understanding of Martian atmospheric behavior and changes is crucial for the immediate future, not just the moderate future. |
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Mar 30 2006, 07:41 PM
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One of the squillion little projects I'm trying to do is to put together an animation of the MER entry up to the lander seperation event which would hopefully demonstrate the sort of occilation that talks about. Thanks for the headsup on the PPT - interesting reading. Mars really is a nasty planet to land on. Not Titan, not the Moon, just a nasty middle ground.
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BruceMoomaw Two interesting new Mars exploration documents Mar 30 2006, 06:06 PM
BruceMoomaw While I was scooting around on the Web the other n... Mar 30 2006, 08:29 PM
BruceMoomaw I've found it -- and it was a lot more than a ... Mar 31 2006, 07:43 AM
djellison Also very interesting to this thread.....
Mars Ex... Mar 31 2006, 11:06 AM
Bob Shaw Bruce:
I wonder if MPL ever got near the ground i... Mar 31 2006, 11:15 AM
The Messenger QUOTE (djellison @ Mar 31 2006, 04:06 AM)... Mar 31 2006, 07:28 PM
djellison When you say three-fold, do you means MPL and the ... Mar 31 2006, 11:32 AM
Bob Shaw QUOTE (djellison @ Mar 31 2006, 12:32 PM)... Mar 31 2006, 11:45 AM
BruceMoomaw We'll never know for sure whether such an acci... Mar 31 2006, 12:18 PM
djellison Hopefully - HiRISE will spot some or all of the ED... Mar 31 2006, 12:27 PM
edstrick Entry hardware can readily be hidden by landing si... Mar 31 2006, 12:37 PM
djellison QUOTE (edstrick @ Mar 31 2006, 12:37 PM) ... Mar 31 2006, 12:43 PM![]() ![]() |
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