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Mar 31 2006, 01:31 AM
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Can you walk on Mars (without) protection spacesuit? I think it is possible because it is only my thought. Is this true?
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Apr 1 2006, 09:32 PM
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How long takes it before i die ,when i step on Mars without a pressuresuit? Is it painfull? And what about bloodboiling? I think that the blood in the body is going to boil when stepped (unprotected) on Mars. Can you explain this?
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Apr 1 2006, 10:03 PM
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How long takes it before i die ,when i step on Mars without a pressuresuit? Is it painfull? And what about bloodboiling? I think that the blood in the body is going to boil when stepped (unprotected) on Mars. Can you explain this? No, your blood won't boil -- Arthur C. Clarke laid that cliche to rest in a story called "Take A Deep Breath" all the way back in the mid-1950s (which was later used as the basis for David Bowman's spacesuit-less return to his ship's airlock in "2001"). And as early as 1964, the Air Force did some vacuum chamber experiments on chimps (naturally) establishing that they could survive as long as 1-2 minutes in a vacuum without serious brain damage. (No word on how many chimps they killed or maimed while learning this.) But, while your blood certainly won't boil, it is fatal after a very short time -- and I imagine it's pretty painful. Bruce: I *do* like the idea of Martian streaking, though. Or Lunar Streaking. Sorta puts a whole new light on how the unmanned spaceflight community should respond to the triumphal opening (by President-for-Life Dubya IV) of the 'Neil 'n' Buzz' theme park in 2069... Oh, I'm gonna have nightmares now... Bob Shaw Yes, particularly if I'm in them. |
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Apr 1 2006, 11:42 PM
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No, your blood won't boil -- Arthur C. Clarke laid that cliche to rest in a story called "Take A Deep Breath" all the way back in the mid-1950s (which was later used as the basis for David Bowman's spacesuit-less return to his ship's airlock in "2001"). And as early as 1964, the Air Force did some vacuum chamber experiments on chimps (naturally) establishing that they could survive as long as 1-2 minutes in a vacuum without serious brain damage. (No word on how many chimps they killed or maimed while learning this.) But, while your blood certainly won't boil, it is fatal after a very short time -- and I imagine it's pretty painful. Yes, particularly if I'm in them. Speaking of Mr. Clarke, he also wrote a story not too long ago about an actual running race on the Moon. The main character wore a skin-tight suit so that he could run faster. Knowing how ACC tries to be as scientificially and technically accurate as possible, does anyone who has the story handy have the details on how it was made and how it kept the occupant pressurized? Thanks. -------------------- "After having some business dealings with men, I am occasionally chagrined,
and feel as if I had done some wrong, and it is hard to forget the ugly circumstance. I see that such intercourse long continued would make one thoroughly prosaic, hard, and coarse. But the longest intercourse with Nature, though in her rudest moods, does not thus harden and make coarse. A hard, sensible man whom we liken to a rock is indeed much harder than a rock. From hard, coarse, insensible men with whom I have no sympathy, I go to commune with the rocks, whose hearts are comparatively soft." - Henry David Thoreau, November 15, 1853 |
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Apr 2 2006, 04:13 PM
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Speaking of Mr. Clarke, he also wrote a story not too long ago about an actual running race on the Moon. The main character wore a skin-tight suit so that he could run faster. Knowing how ACC tries to be as scientificially and technically accurate as possible, does anyone who has the story handy have the details on how it was made and how it kept the occupant pressurized? Thanks. The story was "the hammer of god" and the character was 'Robert Singh' it is a skin suit with a bubble helmet designed only for use at night... from p46. 'sheathed in two body-tight garments - one active, one passive. the inner one made of cotton, enclosed him from neck to ankle, and carried a closely packed network of narrow, porous tubes, to carry away perspiration and excess heat. Over that was the tough but extremely flexiable protective outer suit, made of a rubber like material, and fastened by a ring-seal to a helmet." he gets frost bitten feet and is beaten at the last by Robert Steel (a robot). Don't forget that the ultimate culmination of Kim Steanley Robinson's Mars Terraform epic -- after "Blue Mars" -- is the collection of short stories that might be called "White Mars", in which the process goes wrong and refreezes the planet (albeit with a thick atmosphere this time). At the end of that book, they're still trying to figure out how to straighten out the mess again. The collection of short stories by KSR is called 'The Martians'. The culmination of that is a short called 'Purple Mars' in which the terraforming has been successfull. 'White Mars' was written by Brian Aldiss in collabaration with Roger Penrose and was very much a retort to KSR's mega terraforming. Gregory Benford's "The Matian Race" contains a section where a character runs from a ruptured greenhouse to a Hab in Martian conditions. It was a highlight of the book. |
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Rem31 Walking on Mars without protection (spacesuit) Mar 31 2006, 01:31 AM
BruceMoomaw No. Before 1964, it was thought that this would b... Mar 31 2006, 02:02 AM
mcaplinger Not currently, no. But I feel compelled to mentio... Mar 31 2006, 03:26 AM
BillyMER QUOTE (mcaplinger @ Mar 30 2006, 10:26 PM... Mar 31 2006, 04:19 AM
Bob Shaw Mike:
There *have* been interesting experiments w... Mar 31 2006, 11:04 AM
mcaplinger QUOTE (Bob Shaw @ Mar 31 2006, 03:04 AM) ... Mar 31 2006, 04:05 PM
edstrick Open the Pod Bay door, please, Hal.... Mar 31 2006, 11:51 AM
ljk4-1 But former US VP Dan Quayle said that Mars has can... Mar 31 2006, 04:22 PM
tty QUOTE (ljk4-1 @ Mar 31 2006, 06:22 P... Mar 31 2006, 04:32 PM
Bill Harris Full pressure suits... gone are the days of the in... Mar 31 2006, 04:33 PM
Bob Shaw QUOTE (Bill Harris @ Mar 31 2006, 05:33 P... Mar 31 2006, 08:23 PM
BruceMoomaw Don't forget that the ultimate culmination of ... Mar 31 2006, 08:47 PM
Bill Harris After I posted my earlier message I googled terraf... Mar 31 2006, 09:44 PM
Rem31 QUOTE (Bill Harris @ Mar 31 2006, 09:44 P... Mar 31 2006, 10:20 PM
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Bob Shaw QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Apr 1 2006, 10:12 PM... Apr 1 2006, 09:40 PM
Rem31 QUOTE (Bob Shaw @ Apr 1 2006, 09:40 PM) B... Apr 1 2006, 10:48 PM

Bob Shaw QUOTE (Rem31 @ Apr 1 2006, 11:48 PM) But ... Apr 1 2006, 11:00 PM
dvandorn QUOTE (Bob Shaw @ Apr 1 2006, 03:40 PM) I... Apr 2 2006, 08:42 AM
Bob Shaw I think a lot of the fluff around about water boil... Apr 2 2006, 11:55 AM
JRehling I don't know how many ghoulish incidents there... Apr 2 2006, 08:37 PM
tty QUOTE (JRehling @ Apr 2 2006, 10:37 PM) I... Apr 3 2006, 06:19 AM
Rem31 QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Apr 1 2006, 10:03 PM... Apr 1 2006, 11:01 PM

Bob Shaw QUOTE (Rem31 @ Apr 2 2006, 12:01 AM) Why ... Apr 1 2006, 11:06 PM

BruceMoomaw QUOTE (Rem31 @ Apr 1 2006, 11:01 PM) Why ... Apr 2 2006, 05:15 AM
mcaplinger QUOTE (paxdan @ Apr 2 2006, 09:13 AM) The... Apr 2 2006, 04:50 PM
BruceMoomaw Derek Sears' recent findings on the rate of li... Apr 2 2006, 07:40 AM
dvandorn The research I've seen on this issue indicates... Apr 2 2006, 08:45 PM
Bob Shaw Ooh. I'm not sure if I'd like to see someb... Apr 2 2006, 09:23 PM
BruceMoomaw In fact, a former Air Force pilot recently sent a ... Apr 3 2006, 12:30 PM
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MichaelT I always found the following NASA link very intere... Apr 3 2006, 03:26 PM
Rem31 And what happens when you are trying to breath in ... Apr 3 2006, 08:35 PM
Bob Shaw QUOTE (Rem31 @ Apr 3 2006, 09:35 PM) And ... Apr 3 2006, 09:23 PM
tty QUOTE (Rem31 @ Apr 3 2006, 10:35 PM) And ... Apr 4 2006, 06:39 AM
MichaelT QUOTE (tty @ Apr 4 2006, 06:39 AM) the ca... Apr 4 2006, 07:17 AM
Spacely Hey, guys. Long time lurker, first time poster.
T... Apr 10 2006, 07:01 AM
Bob Shaw QUOTE (Spacely @ Apr 10 2006, 08:01 AM) L... Apr 10 2006, 11:28 AM
edstrick You die pretty fast. You're blood's above... Apr 10 2006, 07:46 AM
Rob Pinnegar QUOTE (edstrick @ Apr 10 2006, 01:46 AM) ... Apr 10 2006, 01:33 PM
RNeuhaus QUOTE (Rob Pinnegar @ Apr 10 2006, 08:33 ... Apr 10 2006, 03:17 PM
BruceMoomaw QUOTE (RNeuhaus @ Apr 10 2006, 03:17 PM) ... Apr 11 2006, 06:06 AM
Spacely QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Apr 10 2006, 11:06 P... Apr 11 2006, 06:24 AM
tty Have a look at this:
http://www.dsls.usra.edu/mee... Apr 10 2006, 06:52 PM
Bob Shaw Yes - very interesting, it's good to get some ... Apr 10 2006, 07:03 PM

Bob Shaw With a little effort, and the unknowing assistance... Apr 11 2006, 05:22 PM
lyford QUOTE (tty @ Apr 10 2006, 11:52 AM) That ... Apr 11 2006, 04:19 PM
deglr6328 One can scarcely imagine the unspeakably ghastly h... Apr 11 2006, 04:39 AM
edstrick The triple point of water where ice, liquid and va... Apr 11 2006, 09:23 AM![]() ![]() |
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