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post Apr 1 2006, 01:33 AM
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post Aug 3 2006, 06:11 AM
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Sad. Does this mean Ka-band is gone forever or is there an alternative / workaround?

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post Aug 4 2006, 12:52 AM
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QUOTE (Analyst @ Aug 3 2006, 02:11 AM) *
Sad. Does this mean Ka-band is gone forever or is there an alternative / workaround?

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It was an experiment and not required for the primary mission. No work around
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post Aug 27 2006, 12:43 AM
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QUOTE (Jim from NSF.com @ Aug 3 2006, 05:52 PM) *
It was an experiment and not required for the primary mission. No work around

While I can neither confirm nor deny anything about this problem, couldn't they swap sides to the other transponder? As far as I know, while the Ka-band is not mission-critical it doesn't have any single-point failures.

p.s. What's "NSF.com" supposed to mean? The domain belongs to NSF International, which is "the world leader in standards development, product certification, education, and risk-management for public health and safety."


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QUOTE (mcaplinger @ Aug 26 2006, 07:43 PM) *
p.s. What's "NSF.com" supposed to mean? The domain belongs to NSF International, which is "the world leader in standards development, product certification, education, and risk-management for public health and safety."

I think I can answer that -- Jim hangs out more over on NASASpaceFlight.com than he hangs out here. I'm pretty sure that's the NSF.com he refers to...

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QUOTE (dvandorn @ Aug 26 2006, 08:12 PM) *
I think I can answer that -- Jim hangs out more over on NASASpaceFlight.com than he hangs out here.

Oh, OK, thanks. (BTW, the National Science Foundation is nsf.gov.)

According to
http://trs-new.jpl.nasa.gov/dspace/bitstre...4/1/06-0902.pdf the transponder (an SDST, see http://nmp-techval-reports.jpl.nasa.gov/DS...ated_Report.pdf ) is redundant but there is only one Ka-band TWTA rather than two for X-band. A Ka-band TWTA failure would take out Ka-band downlink, but a failure downstream from there could be worked around by switching to the other transponder, unless there is some other single-point failure point in the system I am unaware of.


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