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Peer-Reviewed Journals in trouble?
jrdahlman
post Apr 4 2006, 04:34 PM
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I'm not sure if this topic is substantive enough to be posted under Doug's new rules, but I'll try it.

Computer and hardware pioneer Don Lancaster (still going strong), in his blog on April 2, had an interesting take on the "Gresham's Law" effect that amateur internet posting is having on traditional publishing. For scientists:

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But Scholarly Journal Publishers clearly have the most serious problems. If they are to survive at all. Sloppy researcher "A" throws some crap up on the web and instantly delivers zillions of free copies worldwide. Competent researcher "B" pays an outrageous fee to have his peer-review paper published in the distant future in a journal so expensive that their institution's own library cannot afford a copy. Guess who wins?

At the very least, scholarly journal survival demands unlimited free instant access of all abstracts without so such as a registration hassle. Combined with sanely limited quantities of free access to any paper over five years old.


http://www.tinaja.com/whtnu06.asp


I am not a scientist, but clearly there are many on this board. This topic may have been mentioned before, but I'm wondering if any of you have heard anything from the journal publishers themselves? Is this really becoming a problem? Is the market changing or fees rising? Are they getting nervous about the economics of it? Are researchers equally nervous? Not leading questions--I actually don't know.

(One of the amazing things about this board for outsiders is seeing "science being made." The back-and-forth debates between geologists, alternate (plausable!) theories, etc., as opposed to the dry official reports that are finally released. I feel almost like a spy in on closed sessions!)
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dvandorn
post May 27 2006, 04:50 AM
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I completely agree with you about the emphasis placed on IQ, Don. The classical IQ test is a test of pattern recognition capability, in my opinion. Since I've always been good at pattern recognition, I usually score between 140 and 160 on IQ tests, depending on how they're organized.

But there are a lot of things that people I know, who have far lower IQ scores, can do that I'm just not good at, at all. I'm good at manipulating systems, but I don't have any artistic talent, that I know of. And while I can pronounce foreign languages quite competently, I have a very hard time thinking in them, and thus only ever get so far (the constant-mental-translation level) when I try to learn them.

I am a natural mimic, and a fair dialectician... maybe that qualifies as an artistic talent... smile.gif

I think that pattern recognition is a talent, that some people have and others don't. It comes in handy when trying to figure out complex problems, in our real lives as well as in our distractions. But it's only one of the talents that come in handy -- you can be a very generous person, or a very shrewd one, or a very charismatic one, and have great success without what would commonly be considered "high intelligence" (i.e., well-developed pattern recognition skills).

And, like my father always told me, it takes all kinds...

-the other Doug


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- jrdahlman   Peer-Reviewed Journals in trouble?   Apr 4 2006, 04:34 PM
- - RNeuhaus   QUOTE (jrdahlman @ Apr 4 2006, 11:34 AM) ...   Apr 4 2006, 07:05 PM
- - DonPMitchell   There's been a lot of debate about the quality...   May 24 2006, 04:21 PM
|- - The Messenger   QUOTE (DonPMitchell @ May 24 2006, 10:21 ...   May 24 2006, 05:47 PM
|- - DonPMitchell   QUOTE (The Messenger @ May 24 2006, 10:47...   May 24 2006, 06:41 PM
|- - Rob Pinnegar   Wikipedia is okay for when I want to find out a so...   May 24 2006, 08:58 PM
||- - Bob Shaw   Wikipedia contains many fine articles and much hea...   May 24 2006, 09:10 PM
||- - The Messenger   QUOTE (Bob Shaw @ May 24 2006, 03:10 PM) ...   May 25 2006, 05:43 PM
|- - helvick   Peer review is a tried and trusted mechanism that ...   May 24 2006, 09:34 PM
- - DonPMitchell   It's hard for any system to deal with that kin...   May 24 2006, 10:09 PM
- - Richard Trigaux   Hi all, interesting discution. My experience of p...   May 25 2006, 08:50 AM
|- - DonPMitchell   QUOTE (Richard Trigaux @ May 25 2006, 01...   May 25 2006, 05:09 PM
|- - Richard Trigaux   QUOTE (DonPMitchell @ May 25 2006, 05:09 ...   May 25 2006, 06:24 PM
|- - DonPMitchell   QUOTE (Richard Trigaux @ May 25 2006, 11...   May 26 2006, 10:35 PM
- - remcook   If an error slips into a peer-reviewed article, it...   May 25 2006, 11:45 AM
- - Rob Pinnegar   Just to throw a couple more points in: (1) I prob...   May 26 2006, 02:49 PM
|- - Richard Trigaux   Rob, having the names of the reviewers in the firs...   May 26 2006, 05:05 PM
- - dvandorn   I completely agree with you about the emphasis pla...   May 27 2006, 04:50 AM
- - Richard Trigaux   Interesting remarks, DonPMitchell and dvandorn. ...   May 27 2006, 05:53 AM


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