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Interesting 2006 LPSC Mars abstracts |
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Apr 13 2006, 11:59 PM
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This is inevitably a subjective list of the stuff that happened to strike me, personally, as especially interesting -- but here goes:
#2401: MER-B's analysis of the composition of the "cobblestones" that have intrigued the scientists for so long. They turn out to be varying mixtures of the sulfate-processed stuff seen elsewhere with less modified basalt, suggesting that they are local crater ejecta from lower layers of the deposit that were exposed to less acidic water. #1312: Some nice sharp photos of Phobos by Mars Express from different angles. #1592: Mars Express' OMEGA analyses of White Rock prove, once and for all, that there's nothing mineralogically unusual about it -- it's just indurated dust with nothing at all distinguishing it from the composition of the surrounding surface, and in particular no signs of water modification. #2283: THEMIS maps of the southern polar cap's overlying CO2 layer suggest that -- contrary to MGS' earlier photos of the growing "Swiss cheese" holes -- it is actully GROWING in overall areal extent right now from one summer to the next, rather than shrinking due to slowly warming polar summers. Hard to know what to make of this. #2376: Latest analyses of Mars Odyssey's ner-polar gamma-ray and neutron studies suggests that the dust layer over the near-solid underlying ice is no more than 4-6 cm thick, which "may present difficulties for those investigations interested in seeing gradients as a function of depth in the dry soil" -- and which my explain the mission's recent increase in emphsis on properly sampling and analyzing the permafrost itself, which has led to the addition of a rotating "ice shredder" on the rear of the sampling scoop. (See Deborah Bass' blog: http://phoenix.lpl.arizona.edu/features/we...eborah_bass.php .) #2070, 1648 and 1739: the debate over the nature of the "Type 2" rock seen by MGS' TES covering the rocky parts of the nothern lowlands (as comapred to the regular "Type 1" basalt in the southern highlands) continues. Odyssey's GRS (#2070) shows a higher abudance of both potassium and thorium in the Type 2 rock, which suggests strongly that it is NOT just water-modified basalt, but some volcanic rock that was different in composition from the first, such as andesite, or at least basalt from "compositionally distinct mantle sources". However, OMEGA and THEMIS maps show VERY close local proximities of some deposits of Type 1 and Type 2 rock -- so close as to make it hard to see how they could be flows of seriously different types of lava, and thus suggesting again surface water modification of Type 1 basalt to make the Type 2 rock. This one has yet to be settled. #2035: Strong visual evidence of eskers (ridges of sediment deposited by streams of meltwater underneath glaciers) in Isidis Planitia, "strongly indicative of a widespread ice cover across the basin at some stage in the past, even at the low latitude of Isidis Planitia." #1242: Examination by TES and THEMIS of the phyllosilicate clay deposits found by OMEGA suggest that the clay component is actually quite dilute: "So far, it is not clear from unmixing results that the putative clay-rich deposits have significantly higher abun-dances of modeled clay minerals. Overall, these preliminary results suggest that the putative clay-bearing deposits are composed of igneous materials in large part. The thermal infrared spectral character of these deposits is not consistent with the expected spectral signature from extremely clay-rich materials such as bentonite layers...The deposits are not dominantly clay – they are com-posed of igneous materials with a limited clay component." Not all that much liquid water even under the most favorable circumstances in the Noachian? #1342: Results of the latest survey of Mars for alluvial fans. 25 have now been found (still out of 40,000 craters), but there's a puzzle: "One fan has been found in the walls of Valles Marineris. It is the only fan not found originating in a crater rim. This is surprising because Valles Marineris provides an excellent topographic setting for the formation of alluvial fans (i. e. an abrupt topographic dictomy), so it might be expected that many more fans should be present. Future modeling and analysis will focus on why there are so few fans and why they form in specific locations along the canyon walls." #2011: A suggestion that the dramatic (and recent) floods that have carved the features in Cerberus Plains may have been driven by the pressure of underground CO2, which should please Nick Hoffman no end. Now, finishing up with a few abstracts from the new EGU, COSPAR and Astrobiology Science conferences: http://www.cosis.net/abstracts/EGU06/06134/EGU06-J-06134.pdf and http://www.cosis.net/abstracts/EGU06/09673/EGU06-J-09673.pdf : Werner and Neukum say that an analysis of the size-frequency function of secondary craters proves that (contrary to William Hartmann) they are NOT making us serious fouling up our crater-rate estimates of the age of various terrains on the surfaces of other worlds by overestimating their age -- and particularly not for Mars. (Neukum, however, withdrew his paper from the EGU meeting for some reason.) http://www.cosis.net/abstracts/COSPAR2006/...006-A-00693.pdf : Matt Golombek says again that the MER observations confirm that "a dry and desiccating environment similar to today’s has been active throughout the Hesperian and Amazonian (since ~3.7 Ga). By comparison, erosion rates estimated from changes in Noachian age crater distributions and shapes are 3-5 orders of magnitude higher and comparable to slow denudation rates on the Earth (>5 micron/yr) that are dominated by liquid water. The erosion rates from Gusev as well as those from Viking 1 and Pathfinder strongly limit this warmer and wetter period (recorded in the Meridiani evaporites and Columbia Hills) to the Noachian, pre-3.7 Ga and a dry and desiccating climate since." http://abscicon2006.arc.nasa.gov/agenda-session.php?sid=23 , paper #34: Krasnopolsky has a whole series of interesting remarks regarding Martian methane. (He has, however, said many of the same things in two recent Icarus articles: http://www.ifa.hawaii.edu/~meech/NAIJC/pap...y_CH4onMars.pdf and http://www.ifa.hawaii.edu/~meech/NAIJC/pap...y_SO2onMars.pdf .) |
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Apr 14 2006, 11:20 AM
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Bruce:
Very interesting! Heroic reportage, as ever One that particularly interests me is #2035: Strong visual evidence of eskers (ridges of sediment deposited by streams of meltwater underneath glaciers) in Isidis Planitia, "strongly indicative of a widespread ice cover across the basin at some stage in the past, even at the low latitude of Isidis Planitia." Is that one online anywhere? Inded, are they all online? Bob Shaw -------------------- Remember: Time Flies like the wind - but Fruit Flies like bananas!
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Apr 16 2006, 07:30 AM
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Bruce: An understatement if ever there was one. Very interesting! Heroic reportage, as ever... Thank you Bruce, for bringing us this news summary. I'm not well-versed in crater counting, but that gave me some new things to consider. The Southern polar cap is actually growing? Is that politically correct to mention in mixed company? Eskers? I could swear I saw some drumlins once. I could be way off base, but I always thought that the discussion of glacial phenomena on Mars was a neglected (but less so recently,) subject. -------------------- ...Tom
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Apr 16 2006, 12:46 PM
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Eskers? I could swear I saw some drumlins once. I could be way off base, but I always thought that the discussion of glacial phenomena on Mars was a neglected (but less so recently,) subject. Tom: I need help *not* seeing glacial features - I want other people to see them as a sanity check. I see glacial features all over the place (well, not at home, or at work, or whatever, I don't mean they're following me around, oh no. Come to think of it, maybe that explains the lumps in my lawn... ...thought they were molehills!). I see many more glacial than fluid flow features (except where there's been catastrophic flooding). Bob Shaw -------------------- Remember: Time Flies like the wind - but Fruit Flies like bananas!
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BruceMoomaw Interesting 2006 LPSC Mars abstracts Apr 13 2006, 11:59 PM
tty QUOTE (Bob Shaw @ Apr 14 2006, 01:20 PM) ... Apr 14 2006, 04:55 PM

Bob Shaw Excellent!
Bob Shaw Apr 14 2006, 06:49 PM
tty QUOTE (Bob Shaw @ Apr 16 2006, 02:46 PM) ... Apr 16 2006, 04:38 PM
BruceMoomaw If they weren't online, I'd never have see... Apr 14 2006, 07:06 PM
BruceMoomaw Some more on two subjects:
First (in this entry):... Apr 15 2006, 05:00 AM
BruceMoomaw My second additional point concerns the fact that ... Apr 15 2006, 06:15 AM
Bob Shaw Bruce:
In some repects I've always thought th... Apr 15 2006, 01:51 PM
BruceMoomaw It may be premature to say that the southern CO2 p... Apr 16 2006, 08:52 AM
BruceMoomaw My reexamination of the recent abstracts on second... Apr 22 2006, 01:07 PM
dvandorn The Moon is in a cratering equilibrium at most siz... Apr 22 2006, 04:22 PM
BruceMoomaw I've alswo reinspected the 2006 LPSC abstracts... Apr 24 2006, 04:56 AM
BruceMoomaw I commented in another thread on the fact that the... Apr 26 2006, 04:02 AM
jaywee Speaking of craters - is there any "systemati... Apr 26 2006, 04:58 AM
BruceMoomaw A few more interesting Mars abstracts from this ye... Apr 26 2006, 09:50 AM
The Messenger QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Apr 26 2006, 03:50 A... Apr 26 2006, 02:49 PM

BruceMoomaw QUOTE (The Messenger @ Apr 26 2006, 02:49... Apr 27 2006, 12:06 AM
dvandorn QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Apr 26 2006, 04:50 A... Apr 27 2006, 03:24 AM
RNeuhaus It is curious that neither Lanza, Gilmore and Ishi... Apr 28 2006, 02:44 PM
chris As I understand it, there is only indirect evidenc... Apr 28 2006, 04:54 PM
dilo QUOTE (chris @ Apr 28 2006, 04:54 PM) As ... Apr 28 2006, 08:32 PM
Bob Shaw Whether or not Marsquakes cause gullies, gully for... Apr 28 2006, 09:01 PM
djellison Landed with the Viking landers, but iirc, V1's... Apr 28 2006, 06:28 PM
RNeuhaus QUOTE (djellison @ Apr 28 2006, 01:28 PM)... Apr 28 2006, 10:01 PM
BruceMoomaw Viking 2's seismometer detected numerous event... Apr 29 2006, 06:02 AM
edstrick The "candidate" VL-2 seismic event was r... Apr 29 2006, 10:20 AM
BruceMoomaw "Intraplate" is simply the seismic level... Apr 29 2006, 10:30 AM
edstrick Intraplate activity can be wildly variable, from n... Apr 29 2006, 10:55 AM
BruceMoomaw Well, that's certainly true -- the most gigant... Apr 29 2006, 12:57 PM
dvandorn Ah -- you refer to the quake along the New Madrid ... Apr 29 2006, 02:44 PM
edstrick I just love "Factinos" like that. They... Apr 30 2006, 07:31 AM![]() ![]() |
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