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Hydrated minerals map, MEx uncovers possible sites for life
SigurRosFan
post Apr 21 2006, 11:35 AM
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Mars Express's OMEGA uncovers possible sites for life

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post Apr 29 2006, 09:15 AM
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On looking again at the map of the very small patches of different hydrated minerals found on Mars by OMEGA, I still think the OMEGA team may be wrong in saying that the sulfates were caused by an actual increase in Mars' volcanic activity during the Hesperian period.

Benton Clark's view, by contrast, has been that Mars' generally stronger volcanism during its earliest days -- combined with the fact that its lack of an ozone layer allowed solar UV light to penetrate all the way to the surface -- caused sulfuric acid to form all over early Mars' surface. In its earliest Noachian days, however, there could be a lot of phyllosilicate clays produced by nonacid water simply because the planet had a lot more liquid water in general all over its surface and so the acid was highly diluted. But during the Hesperian -- at which point Mars' initial dense atmosphere had vanished -- the planet's surface had become so cold that non-acid water could no longer be liquid there, making it possible for water to be liquid on the surface only where it was mixed with a lot of H2SO4 as antifreeze.

The OMEGA map does show the small dots of phyllosilicates to be sprinkled pretty randomly all over the planet, while the sulfate deposits are concentrated entirely around the Valles Marineris and the Meriaiani drainage area at its east end -- but this distribution also fits Clark's alternative model well, since by then most of Mars' remaining volcanic activity unquestionably WAS in the Tharsis region, regardless of whether or not it was actually stronger then than Mars' volcanism had been during the Noachian.

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post Apr 29 2006, 02:52 PM
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QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Apr 29 2006, 04:15 AM) *
...Benton Clark's view, by contrast, has been that Mars' generally stronger volcanism during its earliest days -- combined with the fact that its lack of an ozone layer allowed solar UV light to penetrate all the way to the surface -- caused sulfuric acid to form all over early Mars' surface...

Ah, but the lack of an early Martian ozone layer is an assumption. Just as is the lack of an early Martian magnetic field. The latter seems to be on really thin ice -- I think we need to question the former assumption, as well.

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- SigurRosFan   Hydrated minerals map   Apr 21 2006, 11:35 AM
- - dvandorn   Oh, gee -- do NOT get me started on the irrational...   Apr 21 2006, 11:46 AM
|- - chris   QUOTE (dvandorn @ Apr 21 2006, 12:46 PM) ...   Apr 21 2006, 01:15 PM
|- - ElkGroveDan   QUOTE (dvandorn @ Apr 21 2006, 03:46 AM) ...   Apr 22 2006, 12:06 AM
|- - RNeuhaus   QUOTE (dvandorn @ Apr 21 2006, 06:46 AM) ...   Apr 23 2006, 02:20 AM
- - SigurRosFan   Interesting. They classify three new ages within t...   Apr 21 2006, 12:07 PM
- - Bill Harris   A side trip into etymology. "Phyllo_sian...   Apr 21 2006, 12:55 PM
|- - Bob Shaw   QUOTE (Bill Harris @ Apr 21 2006, 01:55 P...   Apr 21 2006, 08:10 PM
|- - Bob Shaw   QUOTE (Bill Harris @ Apr 21 2006, 01:55 P...   Apr 22 2006, 03:52 PM
|- - tty   QUOTE (Bill Harris @ Apr 21 2006, 02:55 P...   Apr 22 2006, 04:52 PM
- - ngunn   Possible link between 2 threads?? Latest ESA press...   Apr 21 2006, 01:33 PM
|- - Bob Shaw   QUOTE (ngunn @ Apr 21 2006, 02:33 PM) Pos...   Apr 22 2006, 03:56 PM
- - climber   At the University,an Astronomer talk about the lif...   Apr 21 2006, 01:39 PM
|- - ljk4-1   [quote name='climber' - QUOTE removed - av...   Apr 21 2006, 02:00 PM
- - ngunn   Hydrated minerals anybody? No? Tranquillisers al...   Apr 21 2006, 02:55 PM
- - ljk4-1   Instead of hoping for weak little Earth-like creat...   Apr 21 2006, 05:34 PM
|- - Richard Trigaux   QUOTE (ljk4-1 @ Apr 21 2006, 05:34 P...   Apr 21 2006, 05:59 PM
- - tty   This billion problem is due to the fact that in so...   Apr 21 2006, 05:36 PM
|- - MichaelT   QUOTE (tty @ Apr 21 2006, 05:36 PM) biljo...   Apr 21 2006, 08:54 PM
|- - climber   Milliarde = 10^9 Billion = 10^12 Billiarde = 10^15...   Apr 21 2006, 09:46 PM
- - edstrick   Chris: "...It just sounded right. (and I...   Apr 22 2006, 08:56 AM
|- - Richard Trigaux   [quote name= quote in reply - removed [/quote] Ah...   Apr 22 2006, 11:31 AM
- - remcook   apparently, it means sulfur.   Apr 22 2006, 03:55 PM
- - BruceMoomaw   On looking again at the map of the very small patc...   Apr 29 2006, 09:15 AM
|- - dvandorn   QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Apr 29 2006, 04:15 A...   Apr 29 2006, 02:52 PM
- - BruceMoomaw   No, it's not. To build up a strong ozone laye...   Apr 29 2006, 10:33 PM
- - nprev   Sorry to interject an elementary question here, bu...   Apr 29 2006, 11:21 PM
|- - SigurRosFan   QUOTE (nprev @ Apr 30 2006, 01:21 AM) Sor...   Apr 30 2006, 04:02 PM
- - BruceMoomaw   Actually, that figure does not list the estimated ...   Apr 30 2006, 05:49 PM
- - nprev   Thanks to you both, gentlemen; that was most helpf...   Apr 30 2006, 07:53 PM
- - BruceMoomaw   Actually, we've had a thread on this earlier (...   May 1 2006, 08:44 AM
- - dvandorn   Why, that's just fascinating, Bruce -- especia...   May 1 2006, 04:14 PM
- - BruceMoomaw   Well, here's my one entry (March 18, 2005) on ...   May 1 2006, 09:53 PM
- - dvandorn   It was definitely in another thread, then. I reca...   May 2 2006, 05:31 AM
- - BruceMoomaw   Once again, we're talking about really fuzzy d...   May 2 2006, 06:00 AM
- - RNeuhaus   In situ dating rock age measure would be a great i...   May 2 2006, 03:50 PM


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