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Mars Observer - What Happened?
PhilHorzempa
post May 3 2006, 05:07 AM
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My purpose in starting this new thread is to review what we know
about the demise of the Mars Observer. As most know, the Coffey
review board concluded that vapor migration in the propellant
lines led to explosive mixing whenthe system was pressurized.
However, several other possible scenarios for the mishap were
possible, and in my opinion, perhaps, more likely than vapor migration.

My 'favorite' alternate model for MO's end concerns the pyro valves on
the Mars Observer. As I recall, they were similar to ones on Landsat 6.
I have not been able to find a final report for the demise of Landsat 6 on
the Internet. However, if my memory is correct, it was concluded that
the pyros in the Landsat 6 attitude control system ruptured the propellant
lines during the launch process. The Landsat 6 was launched on a Titan 2
and depended on an SRM for the final kick to orbit.

Landsat 6's ACS was to control attitude during the solid rocket burn.
However, the rupture in the prop lines caused all prop to bleed away.
Therefore, the satellite tumbled during the SRM burn, causing it to fall
short of orbital velocity.

I think that something similar may have happened to the Mars Observer.


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- PhilHorzempa   Mars Observer - What Happened?   May 3 2006, 05:07 AM
- - mchan   See recent post by Mike Caplinger -- http://www.u...   May 3 2006, 08:40 AM
- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (PhilHorzempa @ May 2 2006, 10:07 P...   May 3 2006, 03:01 PM
- - The Messenger   Since there is no telemetry, there will never be a...   May 3 2006, 05:51 PM
- - djellison   Contact with Mars Observer was lost on August 21, ...   May 3 2006, 05:56 PM
|- - The Messenger   I agree, but consider this: MCO did not undergo an...   May 3 2006, 07:57 PM
|- - djellison   QUOTE (The Messenger @ May 3 2006, 08:57 ...   May 3 2006, 08:33 PM
- - ljk4-1   I know there is probably no way to determine this,...   May 3 2006, 08:15 PM
- - BruceMoomaw   A very thorough failure tree analysis owas done on...   May 3 2006, 09:42 PM
|- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ May 3 2006, 02:42 PM...   May 3 2006, 10:00 PM
- - BruceMoomaw   Oh, I know that. Free or not, however, I seem to ...   May 4 2006, 01:02 AM
|- - djellison   QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ May 4 2006, 02:02 AM...   May 4 2006, 07:17 AM
- - PhilHorzempa   However, I still do not find the NOAA mishap repor...   May 4 2006, 02:41 AM
- - BruceMoomaw   The Landsat-6 report seems to be utterly unobtaina...   May 4 2006, 06:17 AM
- - BruceMoomaw   OK, guys: if I'm TOTALLY superfluous in diggin...   May 4 2006, 09:59 AM
|- - tedstryk   QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ May 4 2006, 09:59 AM...   May 4 2006, 01:51 PM
- - BruceMoomaw   The Langley technical report server seems to be on...   May 4 2006, 10:37 AM
|- - The Messenger   QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ May 4 2006, 04:37 AM...   May 4 2006, 01:53 PM
|- - tedstryk   QUOTE (The Messenger @ May 4 2006, 01:53 ...   May 4 2006, 02:07 PM
|- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (The Messenger @ May 4 2006, 06:53 ...   May 4 2006, 03:07 PM
|- - djellison   QUOTE (mcaplinger @ May 4 2006, 04:07 PM)...   May 4 2006, 05:51 PM
- - ljk4-1   A book I recommend for everyone on this forum is: ...   May 4 2006, 02:30 PM
- - BruceMoomaw   For the life of me, I cannot see how gravitational...   May 4 2006, 10:25 PM
- - ljk4-1   I think Mars Observer failed because it wasn't...   May 5 2006, 02:29 PM
- - BruceMoomaw   Nonsense. That didn't demoralize the Lunar Or...   May 5 2006, 09:22 PM
- - djellison   Bruce - he was being funny....relax Doug   May 5 2006, 10:09 PM
- - BruceMoomaw   I know. What the hell do you think I was trying t...   May 6 2006, 03:39 AM
- - djellison   I don't know. Your post just did not sound at...   May 6 2006, 06:45 AM
- - BruceMoomaw   Well, for Heaven's sake, Douglas. You think I...   May 6 2006, 08:35 AM
- - ljk4-1   Maybe that's why the HAL 9000 really went off ...   May 6 2006, 06:54 PM
|- - Bob Shaw   My much-missed old cat was called 'Cat' - ...   May 7 2006, 03:13 PM
- - dvandorn   Ah, but Bob -- suppose you had *two* cats? You go...   May 7 2006, 04:21 PM
- - mchan   OTOH, the operators of the GPS and Iridium constel...   May 8 2006, 12:30 AM


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