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NASA (sort of) releases DART failure report at long last, ...or, "FBC strikes again!" |
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May 16 2006, 01:13 AM
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http://www.nasawatch.com/archives/2006/05/...finally_so.html : "Yikes! ITAR issues aside, it is obvious why NASA sat on this report for a year -- it has a high embarassment coefficient."
I put this report in this place on the website because of the crucial importance of robotic rendezvous and docking to Mars sample return. Overall causes of the failure were our familiar old friends: too small a team, lack of a systems engineer, over-hasty schedule, and above all "High Risk, Low Budget Nature of the Procurement". Seems to me I've heard that song before... |
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May 16 2006, 11:48 AM
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Another fine mission managed by MSFC. The wrong center was managing a mission that they had no expertise in and not smart enough to ask or listen to it.
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May 16 2006, 12:37 PM
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Keith Cowing's coverage is interesting - just wait until Mark Wade has a go, too!
It seems that the root cause of this one is, once again, a lack of management quality rather than a lack of quality management - someone should have called a halt well before launch. And *why* did the report take 18 months to escape into the wild? Bob Shaw -------------------- Remember: Time Flies like the wind - but Fruit Flies like bananas!
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May 16 2006, 01:53 PM
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And *why* did the report take 18 months to escape into the wild? Bob Shaw So much for Griffin's pledge that the sock is out of the scientists mouth...or does this mean that there were no scientists involved in the Dart debunkle? In the years leading up to the Discovery- er Columbia Explosion, we were told that Shuttle Technology was mature and there were hard design freezes. We were also told engineering degrees where not essential to managing a space enterprise, and managers started creeping in with experience making plastic diapers. Unfortunately, these same entities lack the analytical skill necessary to separate good engineers from fudge punchers... |
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May 16 2006, 02:07 PM
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So much for Griffin's pledge that the sock is out of the scientists mouth...or does this mean that there were no scientists involved in the Dart debunkle? Well - it wasn't a science mission - but at some point the role of cutting edge engineering and science merge into one fuzzy middle ground. However - the new press/outreach guidelines from a few months ago certainly don't take "the sock" out of anyones mouth Doug |
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BruceMoomaw NASA (sort of) releases DART failure report at long last May 16 2006, 01:13 AM
MaxSt I still don't see the need to do it "half... May 16 2006, 05:54 AM
The Messenger QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ May 15 2006, 07:13 P... May 16 2006, 06:01 AM
djellison QUOTE (Bob Shaw @ May 16 2006, 01:37 PM) ... May 16 2006, 12:43 PM
Jim from NSF.com QUOTE (The Messenger @ May 16 2006, 09:53... May 16 2006, 02:46 PM
mcaplinger QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ May 15 2006, 06:13 P... May 16 2006, 03:33 PM
Bob Shaw QUOTE (mcaplinger @ May 16 2006, 04:33 PM... May 16 2006, 05:42 PM
BruceMoomaw Jesus Christ. http://www.space.com/news/060516_d... May 17 2006, 03:57 AM
MaxSt QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ May 16 2006, 11:57 P... May 17 2006, 05:14 AM
ugordan QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ May 17 2006, 04:57 A... May 17 2006, 10:54 AM
Bob Shaw QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ May 17 2006, 04:57 A... May 17 2006, 10:58 AM
BruceMoomaw Two of my sources E-mail me to tell me I'm par... May 18 2006, 06:03 AM![]() ![]() |
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