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Out of the noise level..., are we seeing what we want to see? |
May 17 2006, 10:47 AM
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One concern I've been worrying, like a bone, over the last several years, is the very tiny bits of data, barely above the noise level, upon which so many new "discoveries" seem to be based.
We're characterizing planetary systems based on the wiggles of stars -- when in some cases those wiggles are so far down near the level of chaotic noise vs. solid, unambiguous data that there could be other reasons (including sensor-induced noise) to account for them. And as we build fairy castles out of data gleaned just barely above the noise level, we base further conclusions upon "understandings" that themselves are based on far too many single-point data points pulled from nearly-unreadable noise. I'm not arguing that all of these discoveries are bogus. I'm just wondering how far we ought to go in trying to pull information out of noise. And I'm wondering just how much some of these detectors are designed to display what the PI wants to see -- not what's really out there. -the other Doug -------------------- “The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right.” -Mark Twain
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dvandorn Out of the noise level... May 17 2006, 10:47 AM
djellison I don't think the exoplanet example is particu... May 17 2006, 10:54 AM
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Richard Trigaux I worked a bit on this (extracting useful data fro... May 17 2006, 02:11 PM
climber Talking about star occultation, there's a post... May 18 2006, 11:21 AM
ljk4-1 QUOTE (climber @ May 18 2006, 07:21 AM) T... May 18 2006, 11:55 AM
Bob Shaw I really don't see why there's any need to... May 18 2006, 05:04 PM
dvandorn Bob, I am simply ashamed of myself that I didn... May 19 2006, 04:47 AM
Bob Shaw QUOTE (dvandorn @ May 19 2006, 05:47 AM) ... May 19 2006, 12:28 PM
edstrick "...how some people are planning on trying to... May 19 2006, 07:52 AM![]() ![]() |
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