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Jul 3 2004, 12:38 AM
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I am less than convinced that the dark areas are more-or-less pure water ice. Remember that this hypothesis had just been suggested a few hours before the press conference was held, and could not have been thoroughly analysed in the time available.
Why I doubt this idea: 1) The hypothesis is based almost entirely on the 2.8 micron band image of the surface of Titan, which shows almost the entire surface of Titan (other than a few clouds near the south pole) being quite dark, which is consistent with the surface having a large percentage of water ice. However, liquid methane (at 93 degrees Kelvon) also absorbs infrared light at 2.8 microns (see attached plot). The amount of absorption is sufficient that more than a few metres depth of liquid methane should appear quite dark. I have also looked for an infrared spectrum of liquid ethane at 90-95 degrees Kelvin, that covers 2.8 microns, but cannot find one on the Web. They all stop at 2.5 microns. If anybody knows the infrared absorption of liquid ethane at 2.8 microns, it would help decide this issue one way or the other. 2) The other support for this theory is the absence of specular reflections. If the sun had been in the correct position, these should have been visible in the returned images. On the other hand, Earth-based radar imaging of Titan does show 'glints' that suggest specular reflections. Also, the area imaged in this flyby was one of the most dark-area-free portions of Titan's surface, according to the near-global map released recently. A specular reflection requires that the spot which would reflect the image of the sun be covered by a body of liquid, but almost all the area of Titan visible in this flyby was light-colored 'land', not dark-covered 'sea', so the probability of seeing a specular reflection--even if the dark areas are in fact 'seas'--is actually quite low. 3) There are a number of dark, 'river-like' features visible in the images, which appear to drain into the dark areas. These are most simply explained as being liquid-methane+ethane rivers, or their surrounding river valleys. 4) The atmosphere of Titan is most simply explained by assuming that open bodies of methane+ethane lie on the surface of Titan, with the atmosphere in equilibrium with them, plus the effects of solar UV. Bill |
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Sunspot Titan Flyby Jul 3 2004, 12:38 AM
volcanopele we've noticed quite a few river-like channels.... Jul 3 2004, 01:12 AM
pioneer Could that circular feature be a crater?
This ima... Jul 3 2004, 02:59 AM
Mongo Here is another... remember that these are from ra... Jul 3 2004, 03:13 AM
Mongo Here is another 'river-like' feature, this... Jul 3 2004, 03:15 AM
imran QUOTE (volcanopele @ Jul 3 2004, 01:12 AM)we... Jul 3 2004, 03:34 AM
remcook And WHAT is this?! clouds? mountains?
http://... Jul 3 2004, 08:01 AM
Sunspot Any ideas what kind of image processing is applied... Jul 3 2004, 08:12 AM
Sunspot Adjusted the contrast on this image, the darker fe... Jul 3 2004, 08:22 AM
BruceMoomaw To Pioneer: those circular features are, alas, jus... Jul 3 2004, 09:01 AM
Sunspot Did you see the mosaic of images of Titan they rel... Jul 3 2004, 09:31 AM
volcanopele QUOTE (Sunspot @ Jul 3 2004, 02:31 AM)Did you... Jul 3 2004, 09:58 AM
remcook tomorrow? I didn't see it on the NASA-TV sched... Jul 3 2004, 10:37 AM
Sunspot Its on the JPL homepage http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/in... Jul 3 2004, 11:01 AM
remcook Great! thanks a lot for the info Jul 3 2004, 11:43 AM
Sunspot heres another pic:
Not surea bout the scale, but ... Jul 3 2004, 12:01 PM
remcook do you know what the scale is?
or do i see the ho... Jul 3 2004, 12:11 PM
djellison To me it looks like large clouds over something
... Jul 3 2004, 01:34 PM
remcook if we know the angle of the NAC then we know the s... Jul 3 2004, 02:48 PM
Sunspot QUOTE (remcook @ Jul 3 2004, 02:48 PM)if we k... Jul 3 2004, 03:06 PM
Sunspot QUOTE (djellison @ Jul 3 2004, 01:34 PM)To me... Jul 3 2004, 03:51 PM
volcanopele scale is 2.02 km/pixel. As far as what the expert... Jul 3 2004, 05:52 PM
imran Interesting. Dark areas seem to be pure water ice... Jul 3 2004, 06:13 PM
Sunspot Yes, there are quite a few fine sinuous features v... Jul 4 2004, 11:12 PM
Mongo While looking at the Titan mosaic, I noticed what ... Jul 5 2004, 06:53 PM
djellison I certainly see the bottom half of what you're... Jul 5 2004, 07:07 PM
remcook It's in the right spot to be a polar cap. (the... Jul 5 2004, 08:51 PM
Mongo The average temperature at the surface of Titan is... Jul 6 2004, 12:34 AM
imran No Lakes on Titan? Too Soon to Tell
http://www.pl... Jul 7 2004, 03:26 AM![]() ![]() |
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