[X] My Assistant

[Guest_Bobby_*]

The Polls are Closed and any further discussion regarding the position of Beacon can be debated in this Thread. The Final Vote Count is as Follows and if I missed anyones vote please tell me.
No more changing of votes. Democracy at the strangest is finally done

May The Better Team Win

Final Vote Count I recorded at 12:22 AM Pacific Time May 30, 2006

Far Rim


00. BrianL
1. ElkGroveDan
2. prometheus
3. climber
4. MahFL
5. Joffan
6. bergadder
7. Stu
8. Nix
9. Bill Harris
10. centsworth II
11. alan
12. dilo
13. Kenny
14. Marz
15. Oersted
16. atomoid
17. Stevelu
18. Pando
19. Bobby
20. hendric
21. MichaelT
22. avkillick
23. algorimancer
24. Cosmic Rocker

Near Rim

1. lyford
2. sranderson
3. helvick
4. Tesheiner
5. ustrax
6. Chris
7. RNeuhaus
8. dvandorn
9. imipak
10. Shaka
11. Phil Stooke
12. jamescanvin
13. mchan
14. DFinfrock
15. ant103
16. fredk
17. Windy T
18. myran
19. Castor
20. Adam
21. antoniseb
22. marswiggle

Missed the Vote but First Cheerleader for the Near Rim Team

1. Holder of the Two Leashes

Fence Sitters

1. djellison
2. Bob Shaw
3. Zeke4ther
4. Tman
5. Gonzz

[Tesheiner]

Just some data based on sol 848 position:

Feature: Angular separation
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Corner Crater (CC): 3.75º
CC <> Beacon (if at near rim): 14.55º
CC <> Beacon (if at far rim): 13.25º

And from the pancams:

CC <> Beacon: 920 pixels = 14.4º (if pancam fov=16º), or 15.1º (if pancam fov=16.8º)

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Now, choose you preferred position for the beacon, I'll stay with near rim. It should be about 80 pixels to the right in the pancam image if located at the far rim.


The Knights who say "Near"

PS: Once the rover moves another 100-150m southwards I'll make another update of this pics.

[BrianL]

Now, choose you preferred position for the beacon, I'll stay with near rim. It should be about 80 pixels to the right in the pancam image if located at the far rim.

Unfortunately, your angular separation analysis is flawed. All you have shown is that there is a low area on the near rim through which the far rim walls can show. We have actually been seeing different sections of that far rim wall as we progressed. Haven't you noticed how the beacon fluctuates in brightness from sol to sol, and sometimes disappears?? That is because we are seeing different sections of the far rim each time, each with differing levels of reflectivity. That the beacon appears to be "above" everything else is just an optical illusion as a result of distance and vertical stretching. Of course, I can't prove this scientifically, but my gut is feeling good (umm, I suppose that could be the tacos).

Stick together Team Sponge, we shall prevail!

Brian

[Tesheiner]

Haven't you noticed how the beacon fluctuates in brightness from sol to sol, and sometimes disappears??

Sure, I've seen that change of brightness whenever the pancam shoots were taken with different exposure time.
And yes, you are right; it disappeared on last pancams (sol 849). Oh... forgot to say it's just out of the fov.

That the beacon appears to be "above" everything else is just an optical illusion as a result of distance and vertical stretching.

Remember everybody. This image below is just an optical illusion; the beacon is not above everything else.




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The Knights who say "Near"